That's true, but our hypothetical situation was involved a player that had been 100% confirmed Town, and that had lied.



BTW, I wrote the earlier part of my last post before refreshing and seeing Lifthrasil's post. Then I forgot to go back and edit in light of the new information. That is why certain things that I said early in the post don't make sense when you read the later parts of my post. Just so you know.

Hmm, that's funny. I can't think of any.


That's a very odd thing to bring up.

Did I somehow mis-type my role as "Vengeful Paranoid Gun Owner Nexus" or something?

Even if a player is 100% town and lied, I would be tempted to lynch them. I think a supposedly town player lying is so anti-town as to be actively scummy; spreading misinformation is the role of scum, not town (certain gambits do get a pass here). Now, there might be better target than the lying townie, in which case I would vote for the better target, but in the absence of other targets, I think that 100% town player would need to die for gross misconduct.

But, alas, as much as I would love to lynch yogsloth on principle, I don't think gross misconduct is one of his sins this time around. ;)

I knew I should have refreshed before posting... ho hum...

Nope. You merely said you were dealt a certain hand. I am left wondering how many cards were in the deck from which you were dealt, but that is a different subject matter entirely.

I didn't read it the same way. I got, "There's nothing better on the table, I find yogs scummy and he's not in danger of a quick lynch so I'm voting for him to express my dislike and mistrust of his play".

My question to you is, why are you seemingly so sure yogs isn't lying? Why would it be so terrible to lynch him? (The obvious answer is that he is town cop, but that only holds true if you believe that)

Lift hasn't made any particular effort to persuade any one else, true, and that is a point against him.
It really depends on your view of yogs and his play. You seem to buy it 100% completely, and I really don't like that. It smacks of collusion, and usually only scum can collude...

Again. Why are you convinced (your own words) that yogs is town based on claiming cop day 1? What else has he done to make him so town to you?

And as for lynching town for lying or not, Krypsyn has already mentioned a policy lynch, I'm not entirely in favour of something like that but there are times when town players can be more harm then use to town and a policy lynch might be best. I'm not saying yogs is in that position, but when town lie it is bad.

Holiday vote count:

2 Yogsloth (Trentonlf, Lifthrasil)
2 Krypsyn (Flubbucket, Krypsyn)
2 Agentcarr16 (Adaliabooks, Hijack)
1 Sage103082 (BlueMooner)
1 HijacK (CSPVG)
1 HypersomniacLive (Cristigale)
1 BlueMooner (Sage103082)

With 16 players alive it takes 9 votes to kick someone off the island and 8 votes to "no-lynch".
Yogsloth, Krypsyn and AgentCarr16 are closest to leaving at L-7.

Not voting: JMich, HypersomniacLive, Yogsloth, Dedoporno, McHack and AgentCarr16

Deadline is in 7 days on Monday Sept 14th at Midnight EDT (UTC -4)
[Extended due to Holidays, Vacations, 16 players and its the first day]

Of course you can always vote someone off before that...hint...hint...
{If I keep repeating this, it may subliminally take effect, how strong is your will?}

Bagatha Chrustie is on holiday...

His very first game kept rumbling about this wacko tree park hobo theory of how I bused adalia and gave scum an easy lynch. Town still won, but the blatant offering was there.

That is why you think he is scummy. That is not why he is. As you can see there is no common consensus in that regard.

Ha. You'd be surprised.

Timer says 10 minutes have passed.

That's why I'm here. I can.

Hmmmmm. Might be a good role to claim in one of your games when I'm scum again.

That's a gruesome overstatement. Whenever a policy lynch arose you were up for it. Not only that but due to differing play styles you also admitted to being all in on policy lynching me because you see me as a threat.

In light of Lifthrasil's recent post, I am willing to admit that I understood him wrong.
Basically, at this point I think that I know what he is doing, and if he is doing what I think he is doing, then I think that he is Town Cop. Which is why I think it would be a terrible idea to lynch him.

Convinced was not referring to yogsloth. It was hypothetical, referring to something totally different.

I think it would be an incredibly stupid play on scum's part to claim cop in Day 1, Post 1. Of course, by some law or another, it will probably be done now, but I still think it's too risky for yogsloth, which is saying something.
True, Policy Lynches are sometimes best. Not presently, though, in my opinion.


I haven't read it. Which game was that?

I can see that. And in the name of scumhunting, I was trying to convince other players that he was scummy. I am no longer convinced that he's scummy, so I've stopped.

Ya, I probably would be. But, hey, it gives me a foundation to play with.

Yes, it is pretty much always a town PM, often "Vanilla".

It helps prevent such brilliant town "investigations" such as asking...
"In the second sentence what is the third word in your PM"...or...
"Is word X in your PM"...or...
"How many sentences do you have"

And in many set-ups, the scum are supposedly already blended in, as such should be privy to the basics of why everyone is in the game.

I'm sorry, but that's a load of bollocks and you know it.
I admit to being willing to policy lynch you because I find you to usually be wrong, distracting and annoying, not because I find you a threat.
As for me being a policy lynch, the only time that could possibly being true was last game, and that was actually part of my play so I'm not sure it counts. There have been a lot of other times when policy lynches have been suggested and gone through with that had nothing to do with me (Leonard in Vitek's game, Robb in flubs although he wasn't lynched)

Space Opera game. Either #24 or #25.

No. No, I don't. Why don't you enlighten me.

I read the observer thread of last game. Humor me on how your play is better than anyone else's, since I often find it worse.

Distractions are not threats. Interesting logic. Alas, how would that exactly help town? As for annoyance, you're not that enjoyable for me either.

Is it just me or do I feel a deja vu?

Was not in that one, so I can't comment on it.

So if he wasn't lynched, how is he possibly labeled as a policy lynch? And how are a couple of examples "a lot" of other times?

My play is not better than anyone else's, I didn't claim that it was. I just find that yours tends to be worse.

Distractions aren't threats. This is a distraction, it serves no benefit to town, it's not a threat. Unless you mean you are a threat to town when you distract us from scum hunting?

He wasn't lynched, but it was suggested that he should be policy lynched for claiming PGO. There are other examples, but I can't be bothered to root them out.

Yup, so I'm just gonna leave it here. We don't like each other's playstyles, we don't agree with how we choose to play and our bickering will do nothing more than distract everyone else (and no doubt annoy them too), as it seems to every game.