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adaliabooks: Seems more than a little contradictory to his play last game. Why was it ok to vote for me under the same circumstances but it's not ok for Lift to vote yogs?
That bears watching I think...
You played last game, right? I mean, you were there and you know what happened and why you got lynched? It's quite different from what we have at hand, but do watch, by all means :)

By the way isn't a mason just a mason? Not a "Something" mason?

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trentonlf: What is the point of someone saying "I think I know what he's doing, but I'm not going to say", I mean why not share thoughts and ideas?
Even though I have never appreciated such moves regardless of them being true or false, there is some chance sharing may reveal role information. If that is the case of not telling I would have preferred to not say anything at all until an opportune moment arises when doing with would bring more benefits than risks.
yogslpth = troll

agentcarr16 makes me laugh with his limericky goodness.

unvote: agentcarr16

Traveling today so I offer more substance later....or maybe just my usual mindless babblings.
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JMich: Let me point you back to last game. I had an idea of why flub was acting that way. The idea was that flub was town with a power role. So I said I thought I knew what he was doing, but didn't explain further. Should I have gone on and said "Oh, he's acting that way because he has a power role", or would that hurt town more than saying what I said?

Same thing here. I think I know what yog is doing, even if I don't think it's something I would do myself. Some people can understand what he does, some others don't. Explaining further is more likely to hurt town than help it. Thus why we don't give more explanations yet.
I understand that completely, my point is if someone has an idea but doesn't want to share then it's pointless to even say they have an idea. Keep it to yourself and move on, announcing that you might have knowledge but don't want to share does nothing to help town in the slightest.

@Hyper To be honest I had not even thought about it, I didn't even ask him last game. Someone else suggested it and he posted his meme.
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trentonlf: I understand that completely, my point is if someone has an idea but doesn't want to share then it's pointless to even say they have an idea. Keep it to yourself and move on, announcing that you might have knowledge but don't want to share does nothing to help town in the slightest.
On the opposite. If person A says he believes B without explaining why, that means you get to evaluate person A's play to see whether you should accept it or not. And you also get a second possible flip to get extra info.

Same thing holds true with a cop hinting that someone is town, without revealing how he knows it, or a tracker hinting, or anyone else that has information they don't feel comfortable sharing yet. So ask yourself, what information could said person have that allows him to see what I'm missing?
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JMich: On the opposite. If person A says he believes B without explaining why, that means you get to evaluate person A's play to see whether you should accept it or not. And you also get a second possible flip to get extra info.

Same thing holds true with a cop hinting that someone is town, without revealing how he knows it, or a tracker hinting, or anyone else that has information they don't feel comfortable sharing yet. So ask yourself, what information could said person have that allows him to see what I'm missing?
We're not talking about the same thing. I am referring to the comments around yog's. People saying, "I think I know what he is doing but I don't want to say", what is the point of someone even saying they think they know what he is doing but not saying what that is? It does nothing to help town in the slightest.

Your examples are referring to people who have knowledge they want to get out without revealing themselves, that is a different. Someone in that situation is not going to go "I think this person is Town/Scum but I don't want to say why" or "I have information about what this person did but I don't want to say what it is".
unvote Yogsloth RVS is already almost over it seems, especially on yog. So off I go.
Very interesting Theories on Yogsloth so far ... but I guess I'll go with trentonlf on this matter, of saying you think you know what he's doing, but don't want to share. I don't get where that comment helps anybody. Better left out then...
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trentonlf: People saying, "I think I know what he is doing but I don't want to say", what is the point of someone even saying they think they know what he is doing but not saying what that is? It does nothing to help town in the slightest.
Let's agree to disagree. Said statements are breadcrumbs, which should be useful later on.
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HypersomniacLive: I’m a bit disappointed in yogsloth – he promised to post multi-volume essays three times a day, yet there’s none.
While technically true, can you really accuse me of not contributing enough to this game? ;)

First - some meta notes:

I do want to reiterate that I'm having plenty of fun and am not attempting to express any negativity. The flavor of a game is more than just the verbiage in the OP - it's the style of modding, the way the game is expressed, the way it all comes together... and so far, so good. Thumbs up from me and I hope everyone is enjoying themselves like I am.



Second - some random notes:

@HSL - sorry to hear about your back. As someone who has thrown his back out twice in the last nine months, I empathize.

@HijacK - more channeling Cleve Blakemore, please.

Would also like to see more contributions from the usual gang of "veteran" players, but you know, can't have everything.



Third - back to the game:

So.

I am neither lying, nor kidding, nor Scum. I am also not trying to get lynched - quite the opposite. I'd like to continue playing as long as possible.

I do have a plan, but of course, it's incomplete and highly dependent on what happens next. I'm being quite flexible.

And, of course, it's always possible it blows up in my face and gets me killed or worse.

But... are you not entertained? Are you not entertained?
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BlueMooner: Since this is a reality show, I was gonna be a Jersey Shore dudebro type and when people threatened me I'd say "u even lift, bro?"
Sigh sigh sigh. grumble.. /eye roll.
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trentonlf: People saying, "I think I know what he is doing but I don't want to say", what is the point of someone even saying they think they know what he is doing but not saying what that is? It does nothing to help town in the slightest.
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JMich: Let's agree to disagree. Said statements are breadcrumbs, which should be useful later on.
oh ok, that makes sense...

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agentcarr16: Basically, when I got my role, I started thinking about ways that I could use it to town's benefit, and one of the first options that I considered was doing exactly what yogsloth is doing now. I decided not to do it right off the bat, as I don't really know what I'm doing, and now yogsloth is doing it, so it wouldn't be any good for me to copy.
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BlueMooner: I think what Yog MIGHT be doing MIGHT help town (if I'm right), so I obviously don't want to say more. Even now I think I'ev said too much, and drawn too much attention to Yog. I guess the only reason I said anything at all is so that if later on I'm proven right, I can point back and say "I knew it, I was right!"
So I take it Agentcarr16, bluemoon and yog might have similar pms? And this is why they think claiming Town Cop early on could be a good play for town? Fair enough then, if it helps town that's fine by me. Can't imagine how anyway, but I guess I have a very different pm then, because I can't make any connection there at all. But well seeing as I can't do anything at night, my best contribution to town will be voting and probably dying as adaliabooks put it last game. So the best play I can concieve for me will be to read all the posts carefully and weigh what everyone's saying and vote carefully then. Not the most elaborate plan to a town win, but the best I came up with yet :) Actually I really just hope I didn't make an idiot of my self by the time I have to leave this nice place...

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yogsloth: I am neither lying, nor kidding, nor Scum.
on refresh. oh ok, well. But why tell then? O_o ... much to learn I have, it seems.
@hyper - I also noticed CSPVG made a point to question everyone on yogs but not add his two cents.

As for bread-crumbing. In the games I have played most of the bread-crumbing was done by scum making sure to leave a trail if needed. So bread-crumbing to me does not exactly scream town.
@Krypsyn - If you are talking to me, well then, lol, I think I got you.


Has anyone else noticed how each of yogsloth's 'rant' posts begins with "So."
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yogsloth: So.

I'm TOWN COP.
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yogsloth: So.

Sixteen players. The hope of lynching somebody today is nil. You're not going to get nine people in this game to agree on lunch, let alone lynch.
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yogsloth: So.

I am neither lying, nor kidding, nor Scum. I am also not trying to get lynched - quite the opposite. I'd like to continue playing as long as possible.
Possible connections? I can't think of a reason at present, other than sheer 'yogslothiness'.


"Circumstances between posts 51 and 98"

A limerick by agentcarr16

Trent doesn't like when you breadcrumb.
Mchack and agent are play'n dumb.
HSL is in pain,
yogsloth will entertain
No one is quite sure just who's scum
Post-work vote count:

2 Yogsloth (Trentonlf, Lifthrasil)
1 Agentcarr16 (Adaliabooks)
1 Sage103082 (BlueMooner)
1 JMich (HijacK)
1 HijacK (CSPVG)
1 HypersomniacLive (Cristigale)
1 BlueMooner (Sage103082)
1 Lifthrasil (Agentcarr16)

With 16 players alive it takes 9 votes to kick someone off the island and 8 votes to "no-lynch".
Yogsloth is closest at L-7.

Not voting: JMich, HypersomniacLive, Yogsloth, Krypsyn, Dedoporno, Flubbucket and McHack

Deadline is in 8 days on Monday Sept 14th at Midnight EDT (UTC -4)
[Extended due to Holidays, Vacations, 16 players and its the first day]
Of course you can always vote someone off before that...hint...hint... {Like that ever works}

Bagatha Chrustie reporting in on the second day of the first Day...
Quite a bit of action in the early morning, please keep watching, you never know when something unexpected may occur...
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HypersomniacLive: I'm still trying to decipher what your comment to agentcarr16 is, but that was pretty painful to watch, especially the first one.
I made a comment to agentcarr16? Oh, because of the pi thing? No... I was indicating we were talking in circles (2pi = 360 radians) as usual for Day 1, hence the Go and Stand references in the videos. Sorry you didn't like the songs though, I rather like them. ;)

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HypersomniacLive: I hate to be the party pooper, but could we perhaps cut down a bit the commenting/ replying via Youtube/ external links?
I'll take it under advisement.
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HypersomniacLive: I've been wondering why the mod chose to post the full Town PM template, and not just the win condition as he said in the sign-up thread. It could be to prevent all that word nitpicking discussions, but it also gives scum (and any other anti-town players that may be in play) an advantage if such discussions arise.
In mafia games (other than GoG), the posting of a full sample PM is often standard. Pretty much for the reasons you've already speculated on. In terms of scum advantage, I'd rather town lynches them for the lies themselves instead of getting the secret handshake wrong.

And for the record, the role of "God" is completely non-standard. It merely reflects the inflated ego of your moderator...