Of course I'll take cracked games over DRM games any day, but that's because I always view DRM as a virus and security risk in the first place :-P

1. That's a total load of bullshit......crack authors don't put a damn thing in most(85%+) crack releases. Most times, they release cracked games or exes clean and others rerelease them with viruses either to discredit that crack team or to cause general mayhem(sometimes even people against piracy will do this or similar to discredit crack teams and the cracks they produce or piracy in general and to dissuade people from using cracks).

Most times, if a release is high rated and has lots of positive comments then it's pretty safe to assume it's clean....and a virus scan or two on the user's end before using the exe or game/app will clear any remaining doubt from one's mind right away.

2. Also bullshit......i've had times where my UAC was enabled, windows Vista was fully patched/etc, and my anti virus was running and fully updated and stuff STILL got through. No setup is foolproof.....maybe mostly foolproof but never 100%.(Unless you have a hardware firewall and other protective measures like in a business server environment, or run linux/etc.)

As long as the drm is disabled with a chosen crack for a particular game then it isn't causing security leaks. It also isn't causing game instabilities.....or as others have said, GOG wouldn't use those cracks on their games. They also probably know how to scan and rescan a crack they use for viruses and the like.

To say you'd rather have DRM on games than gog's chosen current method which works in nearly 100% of the games here without issue, while knowing about gog's anti-drm stance as well as that of it's users, suggests to me that you're either very ignorant on this issue.....or paranoid on the nature of cracks and the cracking scene via listening to industry anti-crack propaganda(cracks are virus filled in all cases and cause system crashes...etc).....or a mixture of both. Study up on both sides of the issue of cracks and their safety, as well as listen to gog longtime user's history with gog and it's releases and how their fixing games to run on newer OSs works and how it's safe to boot.....or stop whining and buy elsewhere. Later....

I don't understand how people can even consider something like this. I mean like, are you really that much under the influence of publishers?

Download this here: http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delphi/freeware/xvi32/xvi32.htm

Open the game's exe with it. Find the SecuROM / Safe Disc / Tages / whatever DRM line. Replace it with 000000000000. You have a crack.

How freaking insecure is that?

*coughblood2cough*

WTH? Did you just cough up blood?

Hmm, does that mean we're getting hugs for Valentine's day? Or better yet, pictures of squeezably soft kitties?

I can see it now; "GOG now with 30% more cuteness."

As for the topic, what most people hate about DRM is that you're going to eventually have to crack it, lose access or it will cause security/stability problems, if it's been patched around and tested for stability, that's not really much of an issue.
Take a look at the Blood subforum, to see what I mean. It's the only game I can remember getting here which had serious bugs. Sanitarium did as well, but from my understanding the problems go away if you set the processor affinity.

I understood what you meant. I was just teasin'. :p

Wasn't sure, they still haven't given us the ability to show others what games we own.

TBH, it's really not much of a dilemma.. if YOU know you've bought it then ethically what you do with it is your businees, the fact that the law and industry are trying to force upon us the mindset that what we now buy we do not own, is quite frankly their problem.

I won't deal with unweildly DRM or schemes where I have limited installs.. In fact I have stopped altogether buying games that REQUIRE internet validation of any sort.

Back when I played ball with these unreasonable publishers I bought Mass Effect.. and cracked it straight away.. it still hasn't been validated online and you know what the hubbub certainly isn't worth it. I played it all through once, and partially twice. I doubt I'll ever pick it up again.

Any games I buy now will probably be from GOG, or similar DRM free products.

Had these overly restictive policies been in effect when pc gaming first startd we wouldn't have the classics we have now, because after a while we would all be unable to play them.

Don't play ball with them, don't buy their stuff... and if you find yourself unable to exercise some selfcontrol.. then don't moan about it.

How exactly did you get infected? :)

Real quick.... Two Worlds got the hell cracked out of them by GOG, look at the game code on there files. And you know what? it was so hard to get working and all the damn patches which changed so many files just to force a serial check auth DRM made it unplayable for me, i ever bought the fabled "epic edition" to bypass the pain of installing 9 patches sequentially... thankfully GOG came out like white knights and gave us one of the most under appreciated action adventure rpg's I've played.

I thank GOG for what they do, and they do it with the backing of the publishers... If someone is truly worried about Viruses and hackers then get a compressive internet solution like Comodo Internet Security its comes in 4 flavors one of which is free and has not only the best firewall out there but a state-o-the-art virus scanner, small memory footprint a damn run time anti-rootkit and a always on sandbox which runs all exe's in an emulated environment and only allows the proper calls out to perform the exe's task.

Thats hyper paranoid, then again even with all that and tunneling though a VPN and TOR you can get infected by opening a simple PDF file which auto installs a ghost VNC...

so, as for gog 100% trust... as for people not so much, be careful and always trust where you get your files and nothing will ever get you.

Build a foolproof system, and the universe will build a greater fool.

Or something like that :-)

Agreed.

BTW to Kavazov........some viruses are so new or rare that they bypass even the latest virus scanner updates and so cunning that they can bypass most firewalls.