Posted January 14, 2011

Navagon
Easily Persuaded
Registered: Dec 2008
From United Kingdom

Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted January 14, 2011

In summary: you have nothing to worry about.
If I had knowledge of those filenames and their association with whatever-DRM, and was new to GOG, I'd be confused too.

meudoland
New User
Registered: May 2010
From Italy
Posted January 14, 2011

read again carefully every my post, because maybe u would find the subtle enlightening meaning.
in a word, CRACKED doesnt mean DRM-free. understood?
i would pray to have true DRM-free games.


Runehamster
keep it classy!
Registered: Jun 2009
From United States
Posted January 14, 2011

GoG has founded its business practices on providing old games that are DRM free. I declare this topic invalid, if you want DRM in your game by all means go to Ebay and buy the potentially incompatible originals.
Also, I think I smell the unmistakable scent of troll.

read again carefully every my post, because maybe u would find the subtle enlightening meaning.
in a word, CRACKED doesnt mean DRM-free. understood?
i would pray to have true DRM-free games.
Okay, look at it this way. You don't want games that are cracked, because you're worried that the DRM might still be there. I have news for you: Any game that EVER had DRM, still has it. If you buy The Witcher and update it to the latest version, they didn't magically make it go away, they just edited the code - I.E., cracked it - so the code didn't run. Any screwing around with the files and you might reactivate it. Likewise, when GoG removes disc-check DRM, they are not actually removing the code, they're just deactivating it. It's still there. The only place you'll find games that never had DRM in them is probably very old games, or some indie games.
My point still stands. If you don't want what GoG is offering, that's fine. I completely understand. But you aren't going to find what you're looking for anywhere, unless you pay somebody to commit the highly illegal act of recoding the games. If you want copies of the game with the original DRM unmodified, then you should go purchase them, and deal with the problems inherent in them.


And finally, please remember that by asking GoG to host the original files without the cracks, you're asking them to double the amount of hosting they currently engage in. They'd also have to get approval to host ISO's of CD-roms instead of digitally distributing modified installer packages. All this costs immense amounts of money and time that I don't think you clearly grasp.
Post edited January 14, 2011 by Runehamster

dada_dave
Once New User
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted January 14, 2011

You're right. If you were to download random cracked games from sketchy sources, you would have very valid concerns.
The entire point of GOG is they release legal games that have any DRM they once had removed (inactivated) then GOG tests them and ensures they are compatible and stable. That's why they exist. It's their job. Have you gotten viruses from GOG? Are the games unstable due to cracking?
The only case where I had to download an original exe with a CD check DRM was for Red Baron 3D's multiplayer because some servers don't accept the no CD exe. They are afraid you might being using a badly cracked copy if you have a no CD exe. However, the no CD exe from GOG is entirely stable and not a problem. These sites just don't want to take the risk that you are not using GOG's version ... and the original CD launcher for Red Baron multiplayer is available for Red Baron 3D and even on that you didn't truly need the CD (you just clicked six times in the upper right hand corner and it by passes the need - it was just asking not demanding it in those days). So those sites (like you) are just overly cautious. Other than that, GOG's removal (inactivation I suppose more accurately) of DRM has not been a problem.
Post edited January 14, 2011 by crazy_dave

mondik
love you all ;-)
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted January 14, 2011


Without these modifications you would be unable to run these games at all. So there's no point in publishing original cd/dvd images, because in most cases you'll be unable to run them.
Post edited January 14, 2011 by mondik

Barefoot_Monkey
invertEd
Registered: Sep 2008
From South Africa
Posted January 14, 2011

If I had knowledge of those filenames and their association with whatever-DRM, and was new to GOG, I'd be confused too.
BTW meudoland, I'm also a fan of Alcohol - in fact I've even bought it, just like I bought the games I use it on. Some people I know consider paying for Alcohol to be ironic :P

Petrell
Anonymous User
Registered: Oct 2008
From Finland
Posted January 14, 2011
I prefer DRM free always no matter what medhod is used to remove or get around it. Oh and I've cracked all games I've bough before GOG came and never had a virus (thats ~200 games) and in my experience cracked games are more stable and reliable than games infected with DRM-viruses.

Barefoot_Monkey
invertEd
Registered: Sep 2008
From South Africa
Posted January 14, 2011
That's moot, because GOG does proper quality assurance. You can reasonably expect that games here will be stable and not have any viruses.

Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted January 14, 2011
Personally, I would prefer a virus-infected crack to a DRM-laden game. My antivirus software can help protect me from the first, not from the latter.

AndrewC
Code Ninja
Registered: Sep 2008
From Romania
Posted January 14, 2011

As for answering your question, it wouldn't help you make your point simply because I, unlike others here on the forum, have absolutely no problem with certain DRM schemes (Steam for example); I'm only here for old games and that's it, I don't care if it has DRM or not nor if it is cracked (in your acception of the term) or not.

Gersen
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Switzerland
Posted January 14, 2011

I hate DRM as much as the next guy (maybe even more) but you have to remember that DRM are not some sort of sickness that will destroy your computer by simply "being there", for DRM to be "harmful" they have to be "active", you can have all the Securom, Steam or Starforce DLLs installed in the game install folder, if nobody call them they are harmless, that's what most crack does, even if the DRM code is still there, if nobody calls it then it's as DRM-free as anything else.
Post edited January 14, 2011 by Gersen

Egotomb
The Liberator
Registered: Jan 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted January 14, 2011

Oh, wait. That's not the question you were asking in the subject line, was it?
All I can offer is, if you're running Windows, your primary concern shouldn't be over the security flaws that may or may not exist in a program which has had its DRM removed, but rather in the (documented) holes that do exist in the security of the OS itself...

read again carefully every my post, because maybe u would find the subtle enlightening meaning.
in a word, CRACKED doesnt mean DRM-free. understood?
i would pray to have true DRM-free games.

Okay, look at it this way. You don't want games that are cracked, because you're worried that the DRM might still be there. I have news for you: Any game that EVER had DRM, still has it. If you buy The Witcher and update it to the latest version, they didn't magically make it go away, they just edited the code - I.E., cracked it - so the code didn't run. Any screwing around with the files and you might reactivate it. Likewise, when GoG removes disc-check DRM, they are not actually removing the code, they're just deactivating it. It's still there. The only place you'll find games that never had DRM in them is probably very old games, or some indie games.
My point still stands. If you don't want what GoG is offering, that's fine. I completely understand. But you aren't going to find what you're looking for anywhere, unless you pay somebody to commit the highly illegal act of recoding the games. If you want copies of the game with the original DRM unmodified, then you should go purchase them, and deal with the problems inherent in them.


And finally, please remember that by asking GoG to host the original files without the cracks, you're asking them to double the amount of hosting they currently engage in. They'd also have to get approval to host ISO's of CD-roms instead of digitally distributing modified installer packages. All this costs immense amounts of money and time that I don't think you clearly grasp.
Post edited January 14, 2011 by Egotomb

TheEnigmaticT
GOG Marketer Guy
GOG.com Team
Registered: Nov 2010
From Poland

dada_dave
Once New User
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States