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koima57: As another client, i will say Uplay has THE best ever "achievements" system, a USEFUL one with actual rewards, unlocking actions ffor points to spend for sweet content, be it a weapon or a character or a costume or a soundtrack, plus free wallpapers etc, etc...
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Andrey82: Actually, it is WORST because of technical realization and support. Forum is plagued by complaints from users who can't connect to Uplay for progress tracking and rewards. I also got in that problem: I bought games there and for unlocking rewards which is new levels/weapons my Uplay client need to connect with Uplay Club. It coudn't do it. Support didn't helped me and I now have two options:

1. Play incomplete game because client made by Ubisoft cannot connect to their own server. Because of this problem I can't get access to the content I already payed for!
2. Download a cracked version of game I already bought in Ubisoft store with all levels/guns unlocked.

I must note, that this connection problem happened ONLY with Uplay, all other online games (Wat Thunder, Warframe, GOG client Galaxy, Gwent and many, many more) works without ANY problems at all! So, in the end, this "THE best ever "achievements" system" blocked me from content I already payed for!

Conclusion: until Ubisoft, instead of spending money to heavy DRM, start to spend money on fixing their own Uplay client and support, I will buy their games only if they bring them here - to GOG. And I really like GOG achievements system MUCH more than Uplay's because if I got problems with Internet connection I still be able to play full game without need for online unlocking content.
Ahh i see this crap can happen too... Sorry you had this experience. Plus side, the extra unlockable content is usually not so important to really hurt the single game, just cool bonus providing motivation to progress in a game and scratching that completion / unlocking itch. (when it works :o)

Still better than rival clients where "achievements" are nothing but a tag. when they work too i assume.
Post edited December 12, 2017 by koima57
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koima57: Ahh i see this crap can happen too...
Yes. And this is sad because I really like many Ubisoft games. And I really wanted to buy them from Ubisoft and all other games from GOG. But...

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koima57: Plus side, the extra unlockable content is usually not so important to really hurt the single game, just cool bonus providing motivation to progress ina game and scratching that completion / unlocking itch (when it works :o)
I agree but while it still works. :) And at some point you may discover that content you already opened doesn't available to you because company disabled server (old game problem) or your ISP have problems and you went offline. So now I prefer that content I payed for would be completely independent from some servers which can go offline/turned off. This is why I'm on GOG - you can just download and play. Even played being offline. Lesson learned through few educational sessions life gave to me. :)

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koima57: Still better than rival clients where "achievements" are nothing but a tag. when they work too i assume.
Problem is: while they work because, at some point, they stop. :(
Post edited December 12, 2017 by Andrey82
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koima57: Ahh i see this crap can happen too...
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Andrey82: Yes. And this is sad because I really like many Ubisoft games. And I really wanted to buy them from Ubisoft and all other games from GOG. But...

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koima57: Plus side, the extra unlockable content is usually not so important to really hurt the single game, just cool bonus providing motivation to progress ina game and scratching that completion / unlocking itch (when it works :o)
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Andrey82: I agree but while it still works. :) And at some point you may discover that content you already opened doesn't available to you because company disabled server (old game problem) or your ISP have problems and you went offline. So now I prefer that content I payed for would be completely independent from some servers which can go offline/turned off. This is why I'm on GOG - you can just download and play. Even played being offline. Lesson learned through few educational sessions life gave to me. :)

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koima57: Still better than rival clients where "achievements" are nothing but a tag. when they work too i assume.
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Andrey82: Problem is: while they work because, at some point, they stop. :(
I hear you. Personally i am lucky to got through i guess, but my experience is that it was the only client where i felt getting rewards for actions in a game, spending points for small content.

Sadly we are living ina world where the "always onlinne", "stay tuned", and "game as service" aspect is only getting bigger; in that world, uplay is definitely my favorite client just for those lil "thank you for playing" points.
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koima57: but my experience is that it was the only client where i felt getting rewards for actions in a game, spending points for small content.
And there is an interesting question: why you need client for getting rewards for actions in a game while you can get same rewards from the game itself? For example, any unlockable items for DLC completion in Dragon Age: Origins, ships in FTL and so on... What client changes in this system except to adding need to be online to unlock something?

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koima57: uplay is definitely my favorite client just for those lil "thank you for playing" points.
But why the game itself can't say this to you? :)
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koima57: but my experience is that it was the only client where i felt getting rewards for actions in a game, spending points for small content.
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Andrey82: And there is an interesting question: why you need client for getting rewards for actions in a game while you can get same rewards from the game itself? For example, any unlockable items for DLC completion in Dragon Age: Origins, ships in FTL and so on... What client changes in this system except to adding need to be online to unlock something?

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koima57: uplay is definitely my favorite client just for those lil "thank you for playing" points.
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Andrey82: But why the game itself can't say this to you? :)
I fear EA is a bad exemple with its usually over priced DLC's. It's not really rewards if the action is to purchase and play the DLC really; Dragon Age Ultimate Edition coming to GOG is quite an achievement in itself lol!
My view is that in the client's trophy / achievements field, only Uplay has my thumbs up; i don't care at all for achievements in Steam, Origin, GOG because there's nothing for me there to unlock. Never had any sense of satisfaction with achievements in game there, the closer i get is on my PS4 to see the screenshot attached if its a nice capture to keep and the cool sound, then just liking very much more Uplay to gain and spend points while i am playing a game, a raw pleasure for a simple but great online feature. :)
Post edited December 12, 2017 by koima57
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Andrey82: But why the game itself can't say this to you? :)
If to get the extra outfits for Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag I have to first finish said game, I'm not going to be using those. But since I can get those for having finished the previous games, I do end up using them.
Unless you mean having the game look for other Ubisoft games and reward you accordingly, which would be a logistical nightmare (especially if you want to use Watch Dog 2 points for Assassin's Creed 2 for example).
My greatest annoyance with Uplay is that I can't get it to work under Wine. Same with Origin. Galaxy I don't care about as the games can be installed and played without the client, Steam works fine, and I don't remember if I've tried Blizzard's launcher since switching from Windows.

As for the clients themselves though? Meh. While I'd prefer to have the option of just installing the damned game, and being able to archive the installer for later, I'm not too averse to using the clients if necessary. But then again, I'm one of few who saw nothing wrong with Windows Vista - at least beyond being subjected to the rabid mass of people who seemingly were completely unable to figure out that computer hardware had progressed a little bit since the mid-80's and that a modern operating system probably works best on modern machines - so I don't know, maybe that says more about me than the applications.
Post edited December 12, 2017 by Maighstir
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koima57: I fear EA is a bad exemple with its usually over priced DLC's. It's not really rewards if the action is to purchase and play the DLC really; Dragon Age Ultimate Edition coming to GOG is quite an achievement in itself lol!
I mean that you can unlock rewards (not achievements) in game itself, not on server/in client.

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koima57: Never had any sense of satisfaction with achievements in game there, the closer i get is on my PS4 to see the screenshot attached if its a nice capture to keep and the cool sound, then just liking very much more Uplay to gain and spend points while i am playing a game, a raw pleasure for a simple but great online feature. :)
No, i mean why there is need for client/server system when you can get same rewards from the game itself. Just trying to understand why system:

Game <-> Player

Is less interesting that:

Game <-> Server <-> Client <-> Player

In terms in getting rewards for playing. :)
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JMich: If to get the extra outfits for Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag I have to first finish said game, I'm not going to be using those. But since I can get those for having finished the previous games, I do end up using them.
This is just another poor implementation of New Game+ mechanics without NG+ itself. :) This things should be unlockable until you finished the game.

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JMich: Unless you mean having the game look for other Ubisoft games and reward you accordingly, which would be a logistical nightmare (especially if you want to use Watch Dog 2 points for Assassin's Creed 2 for example).
And that too because there is some problem (judging by forum) on getting outfits for which you need another old game on your account.
Post edited December 12, 2017 by Andrey82
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Andrey82: This things should be unlockable until you finished the game.
Why? It's an extra for what you've done in previous games. Should importing your character in games that allow that also be locked behind finishing the game first?

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Andrey82: And that too because there is some problem (judging by forum) on getting outfits for which you need another old game on your account.
Possible. No idea. So far with AC2 up to AC:Rogue I didn't have any issues with unlockables (other than an achievement in Brotherhood or Revelations not triggering.

If a bonus is within a game, it's similar to "Buy this pizza, we'll give you this beer with it". If the bonus is outside of the game, it's similar to "Buy 1 pizza, get a coupon for a soft drink". Both work, and depending on your preferences one might be better than the other.
+1 to OP, added to my acct. Had to go dig up my old browser to dig out my old password to login, but I added the game.

Apparently I also have AC3 on the acct. Now I just need to wait until they give out 1 and 2 free, and I'll get around to trying the series. Eventually.
Not touched Uplay for a long while now. I have a pet hate for these game drm platforms... Steam, Origin, U-Play, even GOG Galaxy are at it, but not forced... yet. Why?

Oh yea to make money ultimately through pretending it`s more "convenient" and all our "multiple friends" will hate me if I don`t.

Well, I don`t need it. My pc doesn`t need it. I`m an independent and proud gamer.

However, Uplay wasn`t too bad once I`d set the settings to "Just let me play the damn game!" Don`t know what it`s like now and I don`t care to try, not even for a free Assassin`s Creed.
Bump for visibility as it is a giveaway timed for few days.
And the last bump for this sweetie.