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General discussionWindows 10 Won’t Run Games Using SafeDisc Or Securom DRM (44 posts)(44 posts)
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Posted August 20, 2015
They even mentioned GOG.com which is kinda cool.
Death to DRM
Posted August 20, 2015
If Windows 10 breaks Crimson Skies, I'm staying on 7.
Posted August 20, 2015
I hope they won't be too stupid to go and wrap these games with some new form of modern DRM. These games are not very old and many people would re/buy them if they're sold digitally. They're old, don't need patches so no excuses for not releasing them on GOG too.
Posted August 20, 2015
Well at-least confirms MS is aware of GOG, now why you not here MS... hmmm? xD
Posted August 20, 2015
I wouldn't have expected this kind of attitude from Microsoft, to be honest. It's very anti-DRM and pro consumer. It does also mean that the next big announcement GOG has will almost certainly be MS.
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BKGaming: Well at-least confirms MS is aware of GOG, now why you not here MS... hmmm? xD
Not just aware of GOG, but openly advocating it as the best place to get titles that are more than a couple of years old. I'd say this is the first clear indication of MS signing up. They've left themselves with every reason and no excuse for not.
Post edited August 20, 2015 by Navagon
Posted August 20, 2015
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Navagon: I wouldn't have expected this kind of attitude from Microsoft, to be honest. It's very anti-DRM and pro consumer. It does also mean that the next big announcement GOG has will almost certainly be MS.
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BKGaming: Well at-least confirms MS is aware of GOG, now why you not here MS... hmmm? xD
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Navagon: Not just aware of GOG, but openly advocating it as the best place to get titles that are more than a couple of years old. I'd say this is the first clear indication of MS signing up. They've left themselves with every reason and no excuse for not.
Hopefully, would love to see Aoe 2 either original or HD (Preferably HD with original versions as bonus) here with Steamworks multiplayer facilitated here by using a serial key like Mount and Blade: Warband and creating a Steam account/ logging into Steam when you attempt to play multiplayer and others coming here (Aoe 1 would be good as well as it is not available digitally.).
Post edited August 20, 2015 by sherringon456
Posted August 20, 2015
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Navagon: I wouldn't have expected this kind of attitude from Microsoft, to be honest. It's very anti-DRM and pro consumer. It does also mean that the next big announcement GOG has will almost certainly be MS.
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BKGaming: Well at-least confirms MS is aware of GOG, now why you not here MS... hmmm? xD
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Navagon: Not just aware of GOG, but openly advocating it as the best place to get titles that are more than a couple of years old. I'd say this is the first clear indication of MS signing up. They've left themselves with every reason and no excuse for not.
I think it is not so much an anti-DRM stance as a stance against the stupid DRM ideas used in the past. Everyone, even those that made things like SafeDisc, knew how bad they were years ago, but since what they did was technically allowed by the OS, nobody bothered to do anything to fix them. MS had a chance here to block a potentially glaring security hole in their brand-new OS and took it. I mean, they are pushing the idea that 10 is the most secure Windows OS to date, but how could they legitimately make that claim if they still allowed this crapware to run?
Posted August 20, 2015
Interesting. Maybe GOG and Microsoft are in talks? My first assumption before I read the GOG part was security holes and implementing some new and improved control, guess not.
Posted August 20, 2015
What I'm reading is that Microsoft is fine with the cost their DRM imposes on consumers, but they're not fine with the cost that other companies' DRM imposes on Microsoft.

Not expecting Microsoft to come to GOG any time soon, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Posted August 20, 2015
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cogadh: I think it is not so much an anti-DRM stance as a stance against the stupid DRM ideas used in the past.
Aye, banishing unsafe DRM isn't quite the same thing as taking an anti-DRM stance. But then again, we circle back around to that GoG mention and are left wondering what to make of that. Idle mention or calculated? Who knows.
Posted August 20, 2015
Microsoft is on GOG's list of game companies:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/740/20702540402_d4d593ef1d_b.jpg
Post edited August 20, 2015 by Barry_Woodward
Posted August 20, 2015
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Barry_Woodward: Microsoft is on GOG's list of game companies:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/740/20702540402_d4d593ef1d_b.jpg
That list is not technically legit. It's kind of like a "here's what we wished it looked like". MS and those others showed up on the list originally years ago, but to date, no games have showed up.
Posted August 20, 2015
Microsoft must be on the list for some reason. Just because the listing has yet to bear fruit doesn't mean it isn't legit. Sometimes these things take time. If the company list was just wishful thinking (which there's no indication to suspect), why aren't other publishers like Sega and Take-Two Interactive (or heck even Blizzard, Nintendo, Sony and Valve) on it?

GOG was quick to jump on the Windows 10 compatibility bandwagon. It's possible they were working directly with Microsoft to expedite the process, because they anticipated uproar over the Securom/SafeDisc lockout. Microsoft promoting GOG in such a high profile way is a good sign.

https://www.gog.com/news/news_we_are_ready_for_windows_10
Post edited August 20, 2015 by Barry_Woodward
Posted August 20, 2015
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BlackMageJ: If Windows 10 breaks Crimson Skies, I'm staying on 7.
Crimson Skies was already broken on XP, which was more videodriver problem than it was Microsoft's fault for breaking it, but recently with a community patch it can be run.
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BKGaming: Well at-least confirms MS is aware of GOG, now why you not here MS... hmmm? xD
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Navagon: Not just aware of GOG, but openly advocating it as the best place to get titles that are more than a couple of years old. I'd say this is the first clear indication of MS signing up. They've left themselves with every reason and no excuse for not.
I'm not so sure about that, Microsoft has a lot of employees and the guy in question may be the last person that has a say in wether Microsoft signs on GOG, but at least it's a start.
Posted August 20, 2015
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Barry_Woodward: Microsoft must be on the list for some reason. Just because the listing has yet to bear fruit doesn't mean it isn't legit. Sometimes these things take time. If the company list was just wishful thinking (which there's no indication to suspect), why aren't other publishers like Sega and Take-Two Interactive (or heck even Blizzard, Nintendo, Sony and Valve) on it?

GOG was quick to jump on the Windows 10 compatibility bandwagon. It's possible they were working directly with Microsoft to expedite the process, because they anticipated uproar over the Securom/SafeDisc lockout. Microsoft promoting GOG in such a high profile way is a good sign.

https://www.gog.com/news/news_we_are_ready_for_windows_10
Like I said, that was debunked years ago, I believe by GOG staff, as nothing but wishful preperations. That pic is very old and should not be considered proof of anything. Also, considering GOG jumped just as quickly on Vista, 7 and 8, you shouldn't read too much into their response to 10. Quickly adapting to the latest MS OS is the only way their business stays viable, regardless of whether or not MS ever sells their games here.
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