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gogamess: I have just seen the trailer and it looks very interesting. And I was right, she was on The Leftovers. ^_^
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Cadaver747: I saw that movie a few years ago. It's not good.
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xSinghx: If you do end up watching Compliance and read the wiki post about the real life incident it's based on you'll be surprised to see how much of it is accurate.
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Cadaver747: A story of ignorance, story of our life, very sad story about stupid and evil people who just want to blame and punish others.
Well it's too bad you didn't like it but there's more to the film than stupid or evil people. I brought up Milgram and Arendt for a reason. The theme of unquestioning obedience to authority is the central conflict here and couldn't be more relevant or effectively displayed.
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xSinghx: Well it's too bad you didn't like it but there's more to the film than stupid or evil people. I brought up Milgram and Arendt for a reason. The theme of unquestioning obedience to authority is the central conflict here and couldn't be more relevant or effectively displayed.
I did get the idea of obedience to authority. But on the other hand I saw the how ordinary people just love to taste the power. The obedience of authority was just their self excuse to commit to bad things. That movie was not entertaining and it has not teach me anything, and yes I knew about the historical fact it is based on. That movie is about bad people doing bad things, I want something more out of the movies.
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xSinghx: Well it's too bad you didn't like it but there's more to the film than stupid or evil people. I brought up Milgram and Arendt for a reason. The theme of unquestioning obedience to authority is the central conflict here and couldn't be more relevant or effectively displayed.
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Cadaver747: I did get the idea of obedience to authority. But on the other hand I saw the how ordinary people just love to taste the power. The obedience of authority was just their self excuse to commit to bad things.
There are a few characters that inhabit the role of the guard and they each deal with that authority in different ways. Obedience to authority is not simply an excuse for all of them though (as it is for one).

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Cadaver747: That movie was not entertaining...
Well what's entertaining to each of us is obviously subjective, but regardless some times there are more important things than entertainment value alone.
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xSinghx: There are a few characters that inhabit the role of the guard and they each deal with that authority in different ways. Obedience to authority is not simply an excuse for all of them though (as it is for one).
There was one person who simply shut the caller and end the charade, it was different, I gladly acknowledge this. All others (not mentioning the victim) who engaged in the process were just parts of the same cruel soulless mechanism.
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xSinghx: Well what's entertaining to each of us is obviously subjective, but regardless some times there are more important things than entertainment value alone.
I agree completely. Never meant to be objective, heard this term was created by a subjective thinking human being. Heard also that normality and truth are not stable and can be turned upside down several times during development of society.

There are more important things than entertainment of course, that is the reason why I specifically mentioned that to me personally this movie was not good in terms of new experience.
Just two examples:
1. I was advised to watch a movie The Girl Next Door (2007). It was very discomforting experience. When I asked a person who recommended it what is the purpose of this movie, the person responded that it teaches us a good lesson of what might happen to a girl. I was highly discouraged by that reply.
2. Another person recommended me movie Martyrs (2008). It was painful to watch, it has no meaning to me other than violence for more violence. I asked what was the purpose of that movie and got a reply "have you seen the ending?", yeah but there was no closure, no answers to a whole lot questions, just another meaningless death.

The movie we've discussed has similarities, I see a girl being tortured all for nothing. I don't like such movies, I can't take from them anything good, they are not productive. That just me, I have an odd taste I know.
Post edited June 25, 2019 by Cadaver747
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Cadaver747: I see a girl being tortured all for nothing. I don't like such movies, I can't take from them anything good, they are not productive. That just me, I have an odd taste I know.
If that's all the movie was (a girl being tortured) I'd agree with you. I don't particularly find anything compelling about torture porn. However this movie is not that. It's an examination of why this happened not simply what.
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Cadaver747: I see a girl being tortured all for nothing. I don't like such movies, I can't take from them anything good, they are not productive. That just me, I have an odd taste I know.
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xSinghx: If that's all the movie was (a girl being tortured) I'd agree with you. I don't particularly find anything compelling about torture porn. However this movie is not that. It's an examination of why this happened not simply what.
I would agree with you if there was any kind of "examination" of why this happened. All I saw was "Are you sure it's OK? OK then, let's treat this girl badly" (slight exaggeration to show my point). I believe than you saw something more significant during these scenes, I watched tons of movies still I can't be objectively correct. Only because every person has his/her own inner truth.
So let's agree that we have different views on the subject and allow the thread roll back from off-topic road.

P.S. I find porn destructive and addicting, better stick to sugar and bread in my opinion. Torture porn is not my thing entirely. At least we can agree on something ;)
Post edited June 25, 2019 by Cadaver747
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xSinghx: If that's all the movie was (a girl being tortured) I'd agree with you. I don't particularly find anything compelling about torture porn. However this movie is not that. It's an examination of why this happened not simply what.
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Cadaver747: All I saw was "Are you sure it's OK? OK then, let's treat this girl badly" (slight exaggeration to show my point).
As I said there's more there.

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Cadaver747: ... allow the thread roll back from off-topic road.
Agreed there's not much merit for you to engage in a topic you're not interested in.
Just a casual reminder that if someone has a screen from a film they want to post, you're welcomed to do so. I'm still without a PC currently and have no plan to fish for things to post while using a phone. Plus, I've got cartoons on the brain lately after being restricted to a rehab facility for months where I began to appreciate the ability to watch something like a Looney Tunes short in the comfort of my own home was something I was missing sorely.
I'll go.
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tinyE: I'll go.
Alice's Restaurant (1969)
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tinyE: I'll go.
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Cadaver747: Alice's Restaurant (1969)
I had a feeling someone would get that pretty fast. :D

Your turn friend.
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tinyE: I had a feeling someone would get that pretty fast. :D

Your turn friend.
Nice movie, haven't seen anything like it to be honest.

Now let's try something different.
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Billy Madison
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Dr_Adder: Billy Madison
Nope.
Hint: it's a European movie.
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Cadaver747: Nope.
Hint: it's a European movie.
These school uniforms...and this actress...
I'm struggling to put a name to the actress (maybe Isabelle Huppert?), but I'm pretty sure, this is a French movie...or maybe Spanish.