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nightcraw1er.488: There is one thing, and one thing alone that separates GOG from steam and the is the offline installers. Otherwise steam wins on all front, larger catalog, cheaper prices, earlier releases, better (read working) website etc. Gog have never surpassed steam at anything, it’s only their one unique selling point which sets them apart. Hence why I can’t understand the constant push towards steamification.
Nightcrawler if you prefer Steam then why do you still purchase your games here (i am assuming you do, since you otherwise wouldn't be spending that much time on this forum). Are offline installers that big of a deal for you? I have Internet of under 1 MB/s and i still use the online installing because while i don't play much multiplayer i don't want to reinstall the game if i ever do decide that i want to play it. You seem to be really critical of GOG for a person who has spent enough time here to earn 2000 positive karma. You said you hate Cyberpunk 2077, too.

Also i don't know why are you so highly rated on this particular comment since what you said is simply untrue. GOG also has the upper hand over Steam in that they actually give the slightest fuck about optimising their games and getting them to run, even if they are third party. I haven't played Fallout 3, for instance, but from the reviews on Steam it seems that it doesn't work on any OS younger than Win7. GOG version doesn't seem to receive that many complaints. So this is certainly something good, because even if the original publisher/developers doesn't give a fuck anymore, you can probably still play your older games without having to install one hundred million mods to run it. Again, it's not something that common on Steam, but it does happen.

As for larger catalogue, yes, but you hvae to take into account lots of Steam games are asset flips made by bored college students, and GOG has lots of old game Steam doesn't have (the Settlers, Diablo, Warcraft, Icewind Dale 2) so while yes, Steam does have more games it isn't that big of a deal. I will take the good ol' Diablo over 100 games like this one https://store.steampowered.com/app/1008690/Lost_Daughter/
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nightcraw1er.488: There is one thing, and one thing alone that separates GOG from steam and the is the offline installers. Otherwise steam wins on all front, larger catalog, cheaper prices, earlier releases, better (read working) website etc. Gog have never surpassed steam at anything, it’s only their one unique selling point which sets them apart. Hence why I can’t understand the constant push towards steamification.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: Nightcrawler if you prefer Steam then why do you still purchase your games here (i am assuming you do, since you otherwise wouldn't be spending that much time on this forum). Are offline installers that big of a deal for you? I have Internet of under 1 MB/s and i still use the online installing because while i don't play much multiplayer i don't want to reinstall the game if i ever do decide that i want to play it. You seem to be really critical of GOG for a person who has spent enough time here to earn 2000 positive karma. You said you hate Cyberpunk 2077, too.

Also i don't know why are you so highly rated on this particular comment since what you said is simply untrue. GOG also has the upper hand over Steam in that they actually give the slightest fuck about optimising their games and getting them to run, even if they are third party. I haven't played Fallout 3, for instance, but from the reviews on Steam it seems that it doesn't work on any OS younger than Win7. GOG version doesn't seem to receive that many complaints. So this is certainly something good, because even if the original publisher/developers doesn't give a fuck anymore, you can probably still play your older games without having to install one hundred million mods to run it. Again, it's not something that common on Steam, but it does happen.

As for larger catalogue, yes, but you hvae to take into account lots of Steam games are asset flips made by bored college students, and GOG has lots of old game Steam doesn't have (the Settlers, Diablo, Warcraft, Icewind Dale 2) so while yes, Steam does have more games it isn't that big of a deal. I will take the good ol' Diablo over 100 games like this one https://store.steampowered.com/app/1008690/Lost_Daughter/
Where did I say I prefer steam? I do not, in any way. Where did I say that hate cyberpunk? It’s never have. The difference I have is that I have been here long enough for the golden sheen to run off on the site. It’s see the way things are going with galaxy. I see how the website/forum has been abandoned. There a lots of things issues. In terms of the big one, when they released galaxy some years back, that was a massive change which is still causing changes now, TBH other than a couple of big games none of it for the better.
So yes, right now the only reason I still buy games here is the offline installers and browser download, and yes even those offline installers are now being packed with galaxy features breaking backwards compatability, bloating has installers, and possibly causing as much future issues as drm did previously (e.g galaxy.dll not working but being required - and before the usual lot start the usual bllx about it never will, galaxy is the only way etc. I am not in the least bit interested).

So tl;dr offline installers and browser downloads are the only reason I shop here, and this is the only forum is post in.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: Nightcrawler if you prefer Steam then why do you still purchase your games here (i am assuming you do, since you otherwise wouldn't be spending that much time on this forum). Are offline installers that big of a deal for you? I have Internet of under 1 MB/s and i still use the online installing because while i don't play much multiplayer i don't want to reinstall the game if i ever do decide that i want to play it. You seem to be really critical of GOG for a person who has spent enough time here to earn 2000 positive karma. You said you hate Cyberpunk 2077, too.

Also i don't know why are you so highly rated on this particular comment since what you said is simply untrue. GOG also has the upper hand over Steam in that they actually give the slightest fuck about optimising their games and getting them to run, even if they are third party. I haven't played Fallout 3, for instance, but from the reviews on Steam it seems that it doesn't work on any OS younger than Win7. GOG version doesn't seem to receive that many complaints. So this is certainly something good, because even if the original publisher/developers doesn't give a fuck anymore, you can probably still play your older games without having to install one hundred million mods to run it. Again, it's not something that common on Steam, but it does happen.

As for larger catalogue, yes, but you hvae to take into account lots of Steam games are asset flips made by bored college students, and GOG has lots of old game Steam doesn't have (the Settlers, Diablo, Warcraft, Icewind Dale 2) so while yes, Steam does have more games it isn't that big of a deal. I will take the good ol' Diablo over 100 games like this one https://store.steampowered.com/app/1008690/Lost_Daughter/
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nightcraw1er.488: Where did I say I prefer steam? I do not, in any way. Where did I say that hate cyberpunk? It’s never have. The difference I have is that I have been here long enough for the golden sheen to run off on the site. It’s see the way things are going with galaxy. I see how the website/forum has been abandoned. There a lots of things issues. In terms of the big one, when they released galaxy some years back, that was a massive change which is still causing changes now, TBH other than a couple of big games none of it for the better.
So yes, right now the only reason I still buy games here is the offline installers and browser download, and yes even those offline installers are now being packed with galaxy features breaking backwards compatability, bloating has installers, and possibly causing as much future issues as drm did previously (e.g galaxy.dll not working but being required - and before the usual lot start the usual bllx about it never will, galaxy is the only way etc. I am not in the least bit interested).

So tl;dr offline installers and browser downloads are the only reason I shop here, and this is the only forum is post in.
you do look a bit like you could hate cyberpunk 2077 just for being there, just saying....
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nightcraw1er.488: Where did I say I prefer steam? I do not, in any way. Where did I say that hate cyberpunk? It’s never have. The difference I have is that I have been here long enough for the golden sheen to run off on the site. It’s see the way things are going with galaxy. I see how the website/forum has been abandoned. There a lots of things issues. In terms of the big one, when they released galaxy some years back, that was a massive change which is still causing changes now, TBH other than a couple of big games none of it for the better.
So yes, right now the only reason I still buy games here is the offline installers and browser download, and yes even those offline installers are now being packed with galaxy features breaking backwards compatability, bloating has installers, and possibly causing as much future issues as drm did previously (e.g galaxy.dll not working but being required - and before the usual lot start the usual bllx about it never will, galaxy is the only way etc. I am not in the least bit interested).

So tl;dr offline installers and browser downloads are the only reason I shop here, and this is the only forum is post in.
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Radiance1979: you do look a bit like you could hate cyberpunk 2077 just for being there, just saying....
Nah, I am quite interested to see how it turns out. Not going to pre order though or day 1 it, been burned too many times with that.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: Also i don't know why are you so highly rated on this particular comment since what you said is simply untrue. GOG also has the upper hand over Steam in that they actually give the slightest fuck about optimising their games and getting them to run, even if they are third party. I haven't played Fallout 3, for instance, but from the reviews on Steam it seems that it doesn't work on any OS younger than Win7. GOG version doesn't seem to receive that many complaints. So this is certainly something good, because even if the original publisher/developers doesn't give a fuck anymore, you can probably still play your older games without having to install one hundred million mods to run it. Again, it's not something that common on Steam, but it does happen.
I have Fallout 3 on Steam and it works fine for me on Win 8.1. I might have had to do some minor tweak, like copying a DLL file into a folder or something in that vein, but it wasn't a big deal. In general, you are right, GOG puts extra work in testing and trying to fix games, while Steam does not, at all. In practice though, I think I have yet to see a case where GOG came out as a real life saver in this regard. Obviously, they can't do magic. They mostly just seem to apply 3rd party patches and fixes that you can find on the web yourself, with minmal research, and while this means a little less work for the average user, there is no guarantee that the game will run better than the Steam version on any individual PC and that you won't have to look for additional solutions anyway, because it does not run that well for you right out of the box. I had high hopes, for example, when Saints Row 2 was released here, because I thought GOG would fix the performance issues and the frequent crashing and all that, but in the end, I didn't notice much of a difference to the Steam version. Even after applying all the fixes, the game is still quite broken on PC, be it Steam or GOG version.

So in theory I agree that this is something laudable in GOG that Steam does not offer at all, but from my experience, it sounds better than it actually is. At least GOG makes it a little clearer on the shop pages though, when a game is not supported by a certain OS.
I am sure that there are a lot of things that GOG has surpassed Steam. One thing that comes to my mind is being able to keep games that were once up on Steam that were taken down because of BS reasons. In most cases GOG knows how to ignore SJW BS.
The obvious: DRM-Free games and a great collection of classics.


Gog Galaxy 2.0's library view is better looking than Steam's*. It reminds me of the old GOG shelf. The tags are also better and the platform integrations are pretty neat. Galaxy otherwise needs a ton of work.




*Booting up Galaxy to admire my Steam library is hilarious.
a minor annotation, but also no useless (for my gaming style, at least) community mods being promoted via the game's page on the GOG Galaxy client.
Things GOG does better than Steam?

Not having 90% of their games being asset flips and half finished (and then abandoned) indie games.
GOG patches old games to work out the box
GOG's online 'community' base is happy to help where they can, instead of just being called a noob.

3 simple things off the top of my head.
What does GOG better? Well, they don't make lots of games unavailable to you even if you installed them as Steam is doing just now. Red Dead Redemption 2, Doom Eternal, Dark Souls Remastered all can't be played at the moment. Even if you have them installed. Yay DRM!!
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Jiggles262: Things GOG does better than Steam?

Not having 90% of their games being asset flips and half finished (and then abandoned) indie games.
That's the old GOG, not the current one.
There have been cases where some half finished indie games have been even more unfinished on GOG than Steam.

A game being based on pre-made assets is not necessarily a bad thing, if the game itself is good.
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Jiggles262: Things GOG does better than Steam?

Not having 90% of their games being asset flips and half finished (and then abandoned) indie games.
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PixelBoy: That's the old GOG, not the current one.
There have been cases where some half finished indie games have been even more unfinished on GOG than Steam.

A game being based on pre-made assets is not necessarily a bad thing, if the game itself is good.
It's something GOG has improved on. GOG now has a very good library of playable games. Steam still has an abundance of broken and unstable games, both older AAA titles (GTA trilogy for example and games requiring old DRM) and indie games included.

Games being made from pre-made assets is not a bad thing, if it's like you said, a good game. The vast majority of them are sadly not good games. Steam has tens of thousands of poorly made, broken asset flips. Greenlight and Direct flooded the marketplace with them all, making finding a good indie game a real chore, and at some points near impossible.
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.Ra: why is the community better?
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Engerek01: * People here are "usually" smarter and more mature. I am afraid to read/write anything on Steam forums because 9 out of 10 times it turns into meaningless arguments. Here on GOG, people with different opinions are able to discuss (argue) their point of views without calling the other side "names".

* People here are helpful. GOG user base maybe one tenth of Steam but the chance that you'll get a proper answer here is significantly higher.

Ofcourse, those are my personal experiences and opinions.

BTW, it literally writes "COMMUNITY" at the top.
Bigger communities (ie Steam) usually have more idiots because the community is....well, bigger over there. Smaller communities like GoG here tend to police themselves.

So is the community really better? That is up for debate. But when you get a lot of people together in one place like on Steam, your chances are larger to run into childish idiots and trolls. But make no mistake about it, Steam has some excellent members of their community over there just like GoG does. They just have a larger idiot/troll pool because a lot more people are on Steam.
So maybe that's what makes us better? Not trying to sound elitist here (as i myself set up my Steam account long before the GOG one) but when you see someone on GOG, you can assume that they are smart enough to have got here. Meanwhile, many people on Steam are casual players who mainly play the few most popular titles (CSGO, TF2, Dota 2, ARK SE, RDR2, PUBG, or Witcher 3).

Again, i am not saying Steam users are cretins, because i am one myself, but when you see a GOG user you can assume they know more about gaming than your average Steam user.

And it seems that because of a lack of a marketplace, there are no scammers here (at least i haven't encountered one) on Steam meanwhile i frequently get friend requests from level 1 accounts that only play CSGO, even though my inventory is only worth a few cents altogether. I wonder what would happen if i bought a $20 skin for AK-47.

For instance, my friend from high school has 3 games altogether on Steam and only plays CSGO. There are lots of people like that there. Although i myself only played Gwent on GOG for some time.