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GameRager: (this is also due in part to mental issues that compel me to reply to more than others would reply to).
I think that that which you yourself comprehends as your 'persistent standing up for yourself even in the face of extreme adversity' here is a complete waste of your time and something that are never going to bring you any true peace of mind, any true happiness or truly better your life in any way.

My advice to you is that you start using your life (in the 'positive sense') on taking care of yourself and your own health physically and psychically. You have been neglecting your own life far too long !
Rather than setting yourself the high unattainable goals of your dreams (or fantasies) then set yourself small attainable goals. You know , if you want to run but can not run then start by walking , and if you can't walk then start by crawling and if you can't crawl all of the distance to start with then start by crawling that which you can crawl and appreciate yourself for doing that.
You know from here that you are capable of standing up for yourself when the going gets tough so now you need to take all that energy and turn it into something positive that will better your life (as in IRL) rather than you pointlessly keep trying to prove something to yourself and others here....

It's possible that you will keep rejecting sound advice which in that case will prove this to be still more waste of my time.
It's also possible - though not very likely - that you will take my advice and start spending your time better than wasting it here in which case I do not have to sit here either.
in any case I find it a waste of my time to have to keep sitting here reasoning with you - this means that I will not do that one more time with you.
So , you know , take care and live your life sensibly and spend your time wisely !
Post edited May 11, 2020 by FiatLux
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No need to reply, but if you want you can read this...thanks for the replies/kind words/advice, and have a good one:
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FiatLux: I think that that which you yourself comprehends as your 'persistent standing up for yourself even in the face of extreme adversity' here is a complete waste of your time and something that are never going to bring you any true peace of mind, any true happiness or truly better your life in any way.
These words are well meaning and seem to come from a good place....that said: The social interactions between me and others usually do make me feel better mentally, and give me a way to interact with the world(being mostly stuck at home even before the lockdowns),

Also as I said...it's only partially me replying due to feeling I need to stand up for myself.....I also like to talk with others online on various topics(not all of it in this manner....some of it is just minor conversation and misc. talk).

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FiatLux: My advice to you is that you start using your life (in the 'positive sense') on taking care of yourself and your own health physically and psychically. You have been neglecting your own life far too long!
This is very good advice as well.

(And coincedentally I already have been doing light exercise at home(and some jogging), and I also meditate a bit sometimes to relieve stress and center myself)

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FiatLux: Rather than setting yourself the high unattainable goals of your dreams (or fantasies) then set yourself small attainable goals. You know , if you want to run but can not run then start by walking , and if you can't walk then start by crawling and if you can't crawl all of the distance to start with then start by crawling that which you can crawl and appreciate yourself for doing that.
You know from here that you are capable of standing up for yourself when the going gets tough so now you need to take all that energy and turn it into something positive that will better your life (as in IRL) rather than you pointlessly keep trying to prove something to yourself and others here....
Also good advice.

From time to time I try to do some of this as well(and sometimes succeed :))....I set little goals and work on them, etc.

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FiatLux: It's possible that you will keep rejecting sound advice which in that case will prove this to be still more waste of my time.
Imo it wasn't a waste regardless of if I took any of it and used it or not....it cheered me up to see the kind words and to me that is also an important thing. So thanks for that. :)

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FiatLux: It's also possible - though not very likely - that you will take my advice and start spending your time better than wasting it here in which case I do not have to sit here either.
Well unfortunately my own issues keep me mostly at home/in the home even if I want to go outside(though I try to go out a little more when I can).

That said, there's no need for you to sit here trying to help me out forever....the kind words and advice so far are/were appreciated, though.

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FiatLux: in any case I find it a waste of my time to have to keep sitting here reasoning with you - this means that I will not do that one more time with you.
So , you know , take care and live your life sensibly and spend your time wisely !
You too, and stay safe+well as well. :)
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(Also a sidenote: One of the reasons I keep replying so much in/on this topic is, oddly enough, that I see those who kept at it for a long time[the movement to bring DLer back] to be wasting their time & I didn't/don't want to see them waste their time[as time is precious as you said].....in essence I care somewhat about them in some respect with regards to this effort of theirs)

Addition: I also reply more on topics I like and am interested in...combined with the fact that less interesting threads get made(imo) on GD as of late, and you can likely see why that leads me to post in some more than others
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To everyone else:

I am sorry if I put anyone down in the threads on this subject....that was not my intent, so I apologize. I also apologize for the bit of derailing I unintentionally started here by talking about myself as of late.

Also even though I still see this as a waste of time, I wish you well in whatever you choose to do/not do about this issue.

Later, all
Post edited May 11, 2020 by GameRager
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Late to the thread, but dang. This sucks. Went to download a game and couldn't find the downloader links. I don't like Galaxy much. I don't want the bloatware. The downloader was small, downloaded everything with one click and could be paused for as long as you needed. I see that some have suggested using clients like "DownloadThemAll!" which I am currently using to download the game I wanted, but it still took me adding 5 files to it with 5 clicks instead of just one and also its nowhere near as reliable as GOG downloader was. So, yeah. Not happy about this move.
Post edited May 21, 2020 by DarkZephyr
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DarkZephyr: Late to the thread, but dang. This sucks. Went to download a game and couldn't find the downloader links. I don't like Galaxy much. I don't want the bloatware. The downloader was small, downloaded everything with one click and could be paused for as long as you needed. I see that some have suggested using clients like "DownloadThemAll!" which I am currently using to download the game I wanted, but it still took me adding 5 files to it with 5 clicks instead of just one and also its nowhere near as reliable as GOG downloader was. So, yeah. Not happy about this move.
If you haven't yet - you can show GOG your disappointment:
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date
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DarkZephyr: I see that some have suggested using clients like "DownloadThemAll!" which I am currently using to download the game I wanted, but it still took me adding 5 files to it with 5 clicks instead of just one and also its nowhere near as reliable as GOG downloader was.
You can select a bunch of links by holding the left mouse button and dragging (like you would select text in a word processor), then right click and pick "Save selection with Downthemall!". All the links will appear in your DtA Manager window with this one click.
Post edited May 21, 2020 by mrkgnao
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Downloader was the only way I downloaded games from GOG, it was far more reliable for any multipart games. I don't buy games often, but I did today due to the sale, only to then find out Downloader no longer works. As somebody with finicky Internet and a dislike of launchers such as Galaxy, this is extremely disappointing.
Post edited May 27, 2020 by vertcioffi
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vertcioffi: Downloader was the only way I downloaded games from GOG, it was far more reliable for any multipart games. I don't buy games often, but I did today due to the sale, only to then find out Downloader no longer works. As somebody with finicky Internet and a dislike of launchers such as Galaxy, this is extremely disappointing.
I feel like you.
Prior I were always thinking something like : "Why not buy now on the sale - at least I will be supporting GOG" .
Now I thinking more like : Why should I buy , they have taken away my bulk down-loader so they *obviously* no longer care for the old users that mostly buy to get their DRM-Free down-loads - so why would I support them more than I have to" . If all they want to is to be Steam #2 then I do not need this...

At this point I have so many games to download from GOG and with the GOG.com Downloader gone then I feel it a hassle to do so.

I think that GOG ought to get it through their , at this point apparently, thick skull that we that buy for our DRM-Free downloads need our bulk-downloader (GOG.com Downloader) option !!!!!

I have spend € 1 at this sale and with no GOG.com downloader then GOG should not expect me to to spend more at GOG than I think that I absolutely have to !!!!
Post edited May 28, 2020 by FiatLux
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If you're so fickle you don't like GOG(fully or in large part) anymore over this one issue I don't know what do say except: Methinks thou doth protest too much

(Of course this is not to say GOG is blameless and perfect...far from it...I just think there are bigger issues worth getting bothered by or upset over on GOG than this, and am happy if I can DL the games somehow)
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BTW to all...something to think about:
Post edited May 28, 2020 by GameRager
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GameRager: If you're so fickle you don't like GOG(fully or in large part) anymore over this one issue I don't know what do say except: Methinks thou doth protest too much

(Of course this is not to say GOG is blameless and perfect...far from it...I just think there are bigger issues worth getting bothered by or upset over on GOG than this, and am happy if I can DL the games somehow)
While I see what you're saying, I think a lot of us are looking at it as like a foreshadowing of a bigger issue on GOG where non-Galaxy customers are effectively marginalized, even if that's not GOG's intent. In other words it's not just about Downloader itself in a vacuum.

Well, it's something, but imo it's an apples to oranges sort of comparison since Sudeki is a game and Downloader is a meta-level feature/program. I get the analogy that Sudeki was delisted like the Downloader was taken away, but I don't think they're an equal comparison. I would assume Sudeki would get a lot of votes in the short-term while the delisting topic is visible on the forum, but taper off over the next week if not sooner. I would be very surprised if it continued getting votes every day for multiple months like the Downloader wish seems to get. All that said, maybe then the argument is to bring back both :)
I'm probably late for the party, but I think quoting Ewan McGregor is appropriate here
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rjbuffchix: While I see what you're saying, I think a lot of us are looking at it as like a foreshadowing of a bigger issue on GOG where non-Galaxy customers are effectively marginalized, even if that's not GOG's intent. In other words it's not just about Downloader itself in a vacuum.
Well there's that to think about...though as others have said I also think GOG wouldn't abandon some of it's remaining principles/features(one being the offline installers) else it'd be just like steam in those regards, and those who like such would likely then go to-buy more from the "better"(I mean terms of those features for those who like them) service/store.

Essentially imo they won't do it as it'd be close to financial s*icide for them.

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rjbuffchix: I would assume Sudeki would get a lot of votes in the short-term while the delisting topic is visible on the forum, but taper off over the next week if not sooner. I would be very surprised if it continued getting votes every day for multiple months like the Downloader wish seems to get.
Tbh I am guessing the new votes are mostly people who didn't DL from GOG in awhile and that eventually they will peter out as well...that said, I am curious which will get more votes in the end now that I started thinking on it.

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rjbuffchix: All that said, maybe then the argument is to bring back both :)
Or have a user build something similar to adalia but for downloading...that could also work. :)
Post edited May 28, 2020 by GameRager
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GameRager: I also think GOG wouldn't abandon some of it's remaining principles/features(one being the offline installers) else it'd be just like steam in those regards, and those who like such would likely then go to-buy more from the "better"(I mean terms of those features for those who like them) service/store.
Well the way around that theoretically would be to have Galaxy required but the option to download offline installers intact through Galaxy only. That way they wouldn't technically be getting rid of the offline installers altogether. At present, I don't think they will go this route but if they did there is no doubt to me that people here (yourself maybe included) would defend this decision by saying "be grateful they give you the option of downloading the offline installers through Galaxy, they could have removed them entirely".

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GameRager: Tbh I am guessing the new votes are mostly people who didn't DL from GOG in awhile and that eventually they will peter out as well...that said, I am curious which [of Sudeki or Downloader] will get more votes in the end now that I started thinking on it.
No way to know yet I guess, but just from a volume standpoint I would assume there were more people who regularly used Downloader since that applied to (basically) all games whereas Sudeki is a single game. I'm sure there are some people who hadn't bought it but wanted it (btw thanks for the headsup in the other topic, much appreciated). And I'm sure there are some folks (including me) who think it belongs here and wants it back just for that reason. By the same token, there may be some folks who don't really care about Downloader one way or the other, but support having it back as an option (even if they themselves don't care to use it).
I've only noticed the lack of GOG downloader when i tried to install the Destroy All Humans Demo. Even with the offline installer, the demo still requires Galaxy anyways as it opens up the client to run the game, rather than just simply running the game like with GOG games back when the Downloader was still around.
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rjbuffchix: At present, I don't think they will go this route but if they did there is no doubt to me that people here (yourself maybe included) would defend this decision by saying "be grateful they give you the option of downloading the offline installers through Galaxy, they could have removed them entirely".
Nope, i'd be upset about it(to put it mildly)...like with other decisions GOG has made.

Also imo they won't go even that far.....at least for now.....Galaxy doesn't work for everyone so they'd be sh**ting themselves in the foot if they did that now or soonish.

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rjbuffchix: No way to know yet I guess, but just from a volume standpoint I would assume there were more people who regularly used Downloader since that applied to (basically) all games whereas Sudeki is a single game. I'm sure there are some people who hadn't bought it but wanted it (btw thanks for the headsup in the other topic, much appreciated).
Still, I am curious.

Also not a problem re: the head's up.

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flashn00b: I've only noticed the lack of GOG downloader when i tried to install the Destroy All Humans Demo. Even with the offline installer, the demo still requires Galaxy anyways as it opens up the client to run the game, rather than just simply running the game like with GOG games back when the Downloader was still around.
You need to run the exe from the game install folder(for windows versions at least).....otherwise the main desktop/start menu links will auto start galaxy for any game if galaxy is installed(iirc).
Post edited May 28, 2020 by GameRager
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flashn00b: I've only noticed the lack of GOG downloader when i tried to install the Destroy All Humans Demo. Even with the offline installer, the demo still requires Galaxy anyways as it opens up the client to run the game, rather than just simply running the game like with GOG games back when the Downloader was still around.
That is probably not true. The demo starting the client (if it is installed) and the demo NEEDING the client to run are two different things. Maybe you simply clicked the "lauchn game" button after installing the demo which will always launch Galaxy (if it is installed). If you close the installeer and then launch the game using the shortcut it should work without starting Galaxy. I haven't tested this myself but I am pretty sure it is something like this because right now the only game that really requires Galaxy still is GWENT afaik and I cannot imagine they would change this for a demo.
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GameRager: You need to run the exe from the game install folder(for windows versions at least).....otherwise the main desktop/start menu links will auto start galaxy for any game if galaxy is installed(iirc).
Should not be the case if you install the game using the offline installer. If in fact the desktop shortcut still is wrong after the installation and it links to the client then it is not intended. Unfortunately GOG still has a few games in which this happens. It's not intended though. The normal way for the installation is to create a shortcut starting the client when being installed through Galaxy and a regular shortcut startring the game only when the offline installer is used - no matter if the client is installed or not.
Post edited May 28, 2020 by MarkoH01