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rjbuffchix: Most of those "new" installers for old games are not adding anything except features for, you guessed it, Galaxy.
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Lucumo: You mean the issue where offline installers included Galaxy bs? I thought that they removed it again after public outcry.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/offline_installers_with_an_option_to_install_gog_galaxy
No (though we should be vigilant they don't try that again).

My post here was referring to how they've added stuff like cloud saves to old games.
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GameRager: (...)
If you really like discussing people instead of topics and ideas, talk it over with those people and leave the rest of us out of it.

You keep going round and round over the same things (hand picked by you). I don't care what you think about this topic anymore, just as you don't care what the actual users of the "obsolete" software think about it. Have a good one.
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If you really like discussing people instead of topics and ideas, talk it over with those people and leave the rest of us out of it.
I do in most cases, but most of my replies did pertain somewhat to the topic at hand(in this case the few getting overly upset at GOG DLer being dropped).

As for those who dislike reading my replies or skipping past them:

if anyone doesn't like having to skip past my posts there is the little button marked with a minus over there---->

I don't mind if some use it for more valid reasons(and to me this is a valid one, seeing as how GOG doesn't have a hide post without low rating feature), and would rather people use that then keep complaining in threads that my posts bothered them for x or y reason**.

(**=Though I would be more than happy to talk such out/etc via PM if one wants to do so)
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You keep going round and round over the same things (hand picked by you). I don't care what you think about this topic anymore, just as you don't care what the actual users of the "obsolete" software think about it. Have a good one.
That's somewhat incorrect.....I DO care about some people with such issues(else I wouldn't have collected alternates and pointed them out to people, etc), I just dislike those FEW(not everyone) who got overly upset over it & handled the news in certain ways.
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All the above said, I have said my peace on this so I will drop it myself(to the best of my ability).....if someone has a good reply on the thread topic I might post a short ontopic reply, though.
Post edited March 18, 2020 by GameRager
Since GOG seem to have killed the GOG Downloader now for good (was working a few hours ago but now it is not) I tried using Galaxy instead to get my backups for four games I just purchased. It was not perfect but working ... there's one thing though I noticed. Whenever downloading a backup installer Galaxy creates a subfolder "!Temp" which is still there even after the download has been finished. Is there any way to get this deleted automatically after the finished download? Maybe somebody from community or GOG could tell me.
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MarkoH01: Since GOG seem to have killed the GOG Downloader now for good (was working a few hours ago but now it is not) I tried using Galaxy instead to get my backups for four games I just purchased. It was not perfect but working ... there's one thing though I noticed. Whenever downloading a backup installer Galaxy creates a subfolder "!Temp" which is still there even after the download has been finished. Is there any way to get this deleted automatically after the finished download? Maybe somebody from community or GOG could tell me.
Checked something I've downloaded via that thing months ago and it has left that folder behind. Looks like it has to be deleted manually for it probably keeps it for other stuff like update or whatever else. How was the download speed and stability for you BTY?
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MarkoH01: Whenever downloading a backup installer Galaxy creates a subfolder "!Temp" which is still there even after the download has been finished. Is there any way to get this deleted automatically after the finished download? Maybe somebody from community or GOG could tell me.
Reminds me of the MS Office log files(empty 0 Kb files) and some other stuff some MS processes and games/etc create and don't get rid of.

You likely did this already, but if not i'd suggest making a ticket or maybe even adding it to the appropriate thread in addition to this post.
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That said/to all: I hope all those who liked the GOG DLer(or more importantly HAD to use it) will be able to find a good alternate, or that someone skilled enough comes up with something to help them out.
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MarkoH01: Since GOG seem to have killed the GOG Downloader now for good (was working a few hours ago but now it is not) I tried using Galaxy instead to get my backups for four games I just purchased. It was not perfect but working ... there's one thing though I noticed. Whenever downloading a backup installer Galaxy creates a subfolder "!Temp" which is still there even after the download has been finished. Is there any way to get this deleted automatically after the finished download? Maybe somebody from community or GOG could tell me.
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Flyingfluffypiglet: Checked something I've downloaded via that thing months ago and it has left that folder behind. Looks like it has to be deleted manually for it probably keeps it for other stuff like update or whatever else. How was the download speed and stability for you BTY?
I am pretty sure that I know WHY they create this folder. It is used to store non finished downloads to be able to continue them later. When the download is finished the game files get moved from said temp directory to the original directory. That's nothing special - but normally after such action the corresponding temp directory would be deleted automatically. Should not be hard to implement this )do you listen GOG? Please?).

Download speed for all four games was completely fine (mostly at max) for me - using Galaxy 2.0. If they would actually implement update flags for non installed games Galaxy would be a pretty good alternative for those that are used to Downloader and who don't have problems using Galaxy. But I am aware that many simply don't want to use Galaxy at all and so offering this as alternative is not perfect and for those not any solution.
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GameRager: You likely did this already, but if not i'd suggest making a ticket or maybe even adding it to the appropriate thread in addition to this post.
Well, I did not already create it but I was planning to do so. In fact I will create a ticket from within Galaxy.

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GameRager: That said/to all: I hope all those who liked the GOG DLer(or more importantly HAD to use it) will be able to find a good alternate, or that someone skilled enough comes up with something to help them out.
Thank you.
Post edited March 18, 2020 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: Should not be hard to implement this (do you listen GOG? Please?).
It should be easy enough(afaik)....well as long as it isn't partially the fault of the OS, that is(bloody MS holding onto temp files for way too long sometimes, it seems).

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MarkoH01: Well, I did not already create it but I was planning to do so. In fact I will create a ticket from within Galaxy.
GL with that(and maybe also keep us posted in the appropriate thread.....i.e. the what broke thread or others).

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MarkoH01: Thank you.
You should really be thanking (second)christmas....it made my heart grow 3 sizes just today. ;)

Silly reply aside: We all have to stick together during these trying times, and even beyond them it is the right thing to do.
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MarkoH01: I am pretty sure that I know WHY they create this folder. It is used to store non finished downloads to be able to continue them later. When the download is finished the game files get moved from said temp directory to the original directory. That's nothing special - but normally after such action the corresponding temp directory would be deleted automatically. Should not be hard to implement this )do you listen GOG? Please?).
You are also right for the non finished one as I found part of an Alan Wake download I gave up on after that thing again gave such grief after I gave it another try. But for sure that folder is left behind even when empty.

As for them listening, well do they when it does not suite them? Checksums for instance since Galaxy is 'optional', pretty sure they've been asked for those again and again, are we gonna get them?

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MarkoH01: Download speed for all four games was completely fine (mostly at max) for me - using Galaxy 2.0. If they would actually implement update flags for non installed games Galaxy would be a pretty good alternative for those that are used to Downloader and who don't have problems using Galaxy. But I am aware that many simply don't want to use Galaxy at all and so offering this as alternative is not perfect and for those not any solution.
Well at least it did not give you grief speed wise, and I am pretty sure that not only they never will provide us renegade with any alternative, but that damned 'optional' Galaxy will not be left optional for much longer, given that large files are a gamble with browsers.
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why not just use a downloader app? it can grab the links and continue with file downloads
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Orkhepaj: why not just use a downloader app? it can grab the links and continue with file downloads
There is no resume with a downloader.
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GameRager: If anyone doesn't like that they should vote with their wallet
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Lifthrasil: ... and now try to guess what I'm doing. But at least I let GOG know why I stop buying here. Not that they care. But still I want them to know.
So what is the store where you will be buying your games instead? I mean, a DRM-free store that has a downloader client as "good" as GOG Downloader, and doesn't force you to use any other client nor download the games with a web browser?

Just want to verify whether you have any double-standards behind all that.
Post edited March 19, 2020 by timppu
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GameRager: It should be easy enough(afaik)....well as long as it isn't partially the fault of the OS, that is(bloody MS holding onto temp files for way too long sometimes, it seems).
No, this is not the OS. MS normally uses its own temp directorys which are located elsewhere and either named temp or tmp and in some cases they use randomly named subfolders which should be deleted afterwards (soemthing that - like you said - not always works). However the fact that in this case the directory is named "!temp" and that it resides within EACH of the game directorys for offline installers is a good indicator for me that this is not MS but GOG made.

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Flyingfluffypiglet: As for them listening, well do they when it does not suite them? Checksums for instance since Galaxy is 'optional', pretty sure they've been asked for those again and again, are we gonna get them?
In opposite to some in my opinion it is always a good thing to "try" and "hope" at least. Without posting it here and kindly asking GOG to listen I can be 100% sure that they won't change a thing. Just by asking my chances get higher ... not much but still. Also there's this thing called hope of which I - being an optimist in general - have quite a lot of. Hope and trust in the good of people. Often in my life I was surprised in a pleasant way because I give people the opportunity to surprise me in that way. This shows me that there is still some good in this world ... and yes, even in this community (which some love to describe as being toxic).

Also, adding a simple "delete !Temp" line to something that's presumable kind of a batch file doing the move process of the files is really not a lot to ask. Every half skilled programmer should be able to do this in mere seconds IF he knows about it, so I see a chance here. Maybe implementing checksums and a way to show them might take a bit more time ... don't know tbh, but if I would want to have those I would also not stop asking about them.
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Well I didn't know about this until today. Luckily I managed to download the entirety of XCOM2 and it's expansions using the GOG downloader. I'm pretty upset that this is gone, since I had no idea until I couldn't find the GOG link several minutes ago for an update.

In any case this is why I prefer GOG downloader:

1) The GOG downloader will download a large game like XCOM 2 one file part at a time, and allow you to resume it. If you use the web downloader, not only must you download it manually by clicking on each separate part, you need to babysit it since if you download all the links at once, you need to wait for the entire game to finish downloading before it completes any of the chunks (so it is much safer to download one part at a time so you don't lose all of your progress if something happens at 99% for 9 different files).

2) You can adjust the maximum bandwidth of downloads. I don't have a fast connection (~2MB/sec), so I've found it quite useful to manually throttle the download speed down to allow others to still use the internet in the household.

Now I'm not completely against GOG galaxy, as I do have it installed and use it (mostly for achievements, though small updates are convenient as well), but I love being able to conveniently have an offline installer repository for all of my games and the GOG downloader is the absolute best method of doing this.

As far as I can tell looking at my GOG Galaxy (1.2.67) there doesn't seem to be any method of downloading the offline installer conveniently like the GOG downloader; just a duplication of the web interface.

I haven't tried Galaxy 2.0 (worried it will break my achievements, in particular with Trails of Cold Steel 2). As a compromise, if the same GOG downloader functionality was built into Galaxy (one click to download offline installer for a game, with the same resume functionality and bandwidth control) I think I would be ok with that.

As I see it, GOG downloader has actually become more useful with time as game sizes have increased. If anything I feel it's purpose is even more justified now.
Post edited March 19, 2020 by Jamie.monro
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Jamie.monro: As a compromise, if the same GOG downloader functionality was built into Galaxy (one click to download offline installer for a game, with the same resume functionality and bandwidth control) I think I would be ok with that.

As I see it, GOG downloader has actually become more useful with time as game sizes have increased. If anything I feel it's purpose is even more justified now.
Have you checked the galaxy settings - download - bandwith? You can limit the bandwith. You can also pause a download and resume at a later time.
Post edited March 19, 2020 by darkangelz