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IMO France would play better without Mbappé. When he's available he locks them into that horrible style of play.

And England: That's what you get when the coach does not want to play in any tournament.
That has to be one of the worst England performances I’ve ever seen - and I’ve seen some pretty awful ones. They looked absolutely clueless and exhausted out there.

Why is Southgate not unleashing Cole Palmer and Anthony Gordon from the bench ? He’s started with the same XI twice and brought on the same players twice, and it hasn’t worked either time. Only Ollie Watkins looked decent when he came on.

Well played Denmark, though. They deserved to win really.
My sympathy goes out to Poland . . .

didn't expect austria to perform ok-ish

Now to see how Holland fares against (z)the French
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Zimerius: My sympathy goes out to Poland . . .

didn't expect austria to perform ok-ish

Now to see how Holland fares against (z)the French
Wait, what? Why do you refer to your country as "Holland"? I thought that was a big no-no.

(Hm, unless... <insert conspiracy theory here>)
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Cavalary: Heh, I'd say France is joining England in underperforming. And let's see how bad Mbappe's injury is.
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triock: Yeah, another "great" match from England. (◔_◔)
You know...Klopp is available...just saying...
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Zimerius: My sympathy goes out to Poland . . .

didn't expect austria to perform ok-ish

Now to see how Holland fares against (z)the French
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g2222: Wait, what? Why do you refer to your country as "Holland"? I thought that was a big no-no.

(Hm, unless... <insert conspiracy theory here>)
It is like, what the support guys yell multiple times on EK's and WK's..... Did you notice the Gullit imitations, btw? Makes me think back to the time of Fuller and Lothar ;p

One of the first things i learned about football was that (z)the Germans never back down ^~^
Dropped England from my initial four main contenders because they look hopeless. Replacing them with Spain, who look a very different team now that Luis Enrique isn’t the boss.

France
Spain
Portugal
Germany

These are the main contenders for me now. Germany and Spain have been the best teams so far. The tournament hasn’t really come to life yet, though. Most matches have been pretty slow and boring to my eyes.
Post edited June 22, 2024 by Theoclymenus
France looked pretty good against the Netherlands, just that Grieze can't score his way out of a wet paper bag.
England got the players but it just isn't coming together...coaching issue.
Germany hasn't been tested yet, Scotland and Hungary aren't exactly benchmarks...
Spain-Italy was a snooze (unlike France-Netherlands), looked so good on paper...

After everything I've seen so far, fire Griezeman and Southgate and hand the Cup tp France.
I hope the winner of the cup will be a team that fully deserves it. Enjoyment without controversy.
Wow. that's what you do if you hate your keeper
Without VAR Lukaku would be on 3 goals now...
Kinda makes you wonder how past tournaments would have changed if they had it.
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renegade042: Without VAR Lukaku would be on 3 goals now...
Kinda makes you wonder how past tournaments would have changed if they had it.
That was a weird moment, i was playing Warhammer and watching more or less. Both audio playing over the same output channel. Warhammer a bit muted, muffled sounds from my falc about how the cold would not cool the lust for blood etc etc and suddenly without warning just a message at the bottom of the (other) screen following on some cheers about how the goal was off side. Completely absurd
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renegade042: Without VAR Lukaku would be on 3 goals now...
Kinda makes you wonder how past tournaments would have changed if they had it.
Exaclty , this is an interesting thought.
I wonder if there is any psychological effect(demoralizing effect) on the players.
And maybe we will have defenders becoming the topscorers.

On a sidenote, maybe France can still win the tourney without scoring a single goal themselves.
Post edited June 23, 2024 by Catallica
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renegade042: Without VAR Lukaku would be on 3 goals now...
Kinda makes you wonder how past tournaments would have changed if they had it.
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Catallica: Exaclty , this is an interesting thought.
I wonder if there is any psychological effect(demoralizing effect) on the players.
And maybe we will have defenders becoming the topscorers.

On a sidenote, maybe France can still win the tourney without scoring a single goal themselves.
Allow me to spin this yarn while there are no games.

1966 Final England-Germany ...the goal that wasn't
1986 Quarter England Cameron...Lineker dive deciding game
1986 Semi Finals Argentinia-England ... Hand of God
2010 England Germany ...Lampards free kick was 2 meters over the line

Off course that doesn't mean that any of these games would have had a different outcome,
we'll never know...
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renegade042: *snip*
That's definitely something to think about. It's these kinda moments that make me confused as to why VAR receives criticism from some fans.
I get that some might find it annoying when goals are ruled offside because a guys shoulder was 1mm ahead of the defender, but they're necessary calls. There would be so much more outrage regarding some decisions without VAR than with it.