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ssokolow: Please excuse the limited diplomacy in effect, Update #64 was the one where one of Stoic's comment replies contained a point-form list (of reasons behind their decision to go Steam-only) including this:

2) We sadly saw increases in piracy once we had a drm-free for Banner Saga 1. Can't speak for the global game market nor other game developers but it's what we saw first hand over 2 years ago.
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ssokolow:
You know, it's funny how they're completely misinterpreting the effect they're reporting here:

Once a game's been cracked and pirated (such as the first Banner Saga), it doesn't matter where you release it after that, the game is still available from the pirates, free adn without DRM.

If they actually noted an increase in piracy once it was released on GOG, then it more likely means that interest in the game was increased again, so more people that would have pirated it anyway went to grab a copy.

Again, since it was already pirated, releasing a DRM-free version was completely redundant since the pirated copy was already DRM-free. The only thing it did was capture the honest audience that wanted to have a DRM-free copy and were willing to actually pay for it.
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ssokolow: I'm not sure. It was kind of hard to be certain what they were replying to with their decision to focus on the narrative that this is proof that being transparent with your backers gets you burned, so, for TBS3, they'll just "no comment" everything.
Of course it is proof. After all, none of you really needed to know anything.


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GR00T: You know, it's funny how they're completely misinterpreting the effect they're reporting here:

Once a game's been cracked and pirated (such as the first Banner Saga), it doesn't matter where you release it after that, the game is still available from the pirates, free adn without DRM.

If they actually noted an increase in piracy once it was released on GOG, then it more likely means that interest in the game was increased again, so more people that would have pirated it anyway went to grab a copy.

Again, since it was already pirated, releasing a DRM-free version was completely redundant since the pirated copy was already DRM-free. The only thing it did was capture the honest audience that wanted to have a DRM-free copy and were willing to actually pay for it.
Shame on you for trying to apply logic.
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HypersomniacLive: Shame on you for trying to apply logic.
It's a failing of mine. I'm working on it. :P
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GR00T: It's a failing of mine. I'm working on it. :P
You need to try harder, obviously. ;-P
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GR00T: You know, it's funny how they're completely misinterpreting the effect they're reporting here:

Once a game's been cracked and pirated (such as the first Banner Saga), it doesn't matter where you release it after that, the game is still available from the pirates, free adn without DRM.

If they actually noted an increase in piracy once it was released on GOG, then it more likely means that interest in the game was increased again, so more people that would have pirated it anyway went to grab a copy.

Again, since it was already pirated, releasing a DRM-free version was completely redundant since the pirated copy was already DRM-free. The only thing it did was capture the honest audience that wanted to have a DRM-free copy and were willing to actually pay for it.
I know it probably won't help, but would you mind if I quoted this in the backers-only thread?
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GR00T: You know, it's funny how they're completely misinterpreting the effect they're reporting here:

Once a game's been cracked and pirated (such as the first Banner Saga), it doesn't matter where you release it after that, the game is still available from the pirates, free adn without DRM.

If they actually noted an increase in piracy once it was released on GOG, then it more likely means that interest in the game was increased again, so more people that would have pirated it anyway went to grab a copy.

Again, since it was already pirated, releasing a DRM-free version was completely redundant since the pirated copy was already DRM-free. The only thing it did was capture the honest audience that wanted to have a DRM-free copy and were willing to actually pay for it.
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ssokolow: I know it probably won't help, but would you mind if I quoted this in the backers-only thread?
Not at all, although if you want to rework it so it's worded better, feel free. :)
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ssokolow: I know it probably won't help, but would you mind if I quoted this in the backers-only thread?
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GR00T: Not at all, although if you want to rework it so it's worded better, feel free. :)
Given how much I've already said, I think it has a slightly better chance of being considered if It's 100% words from someone who hasn't already been participating in the conversation.