Posted June 29, 2025
BreOl72
GOG is spiralling down
Registered: Sep 2010
From Germany
Matthias00001111
New User
Registered: May 2011
From Germany
Posted June 29, 2025
So you have no idea how hypotheticals work. That's alright, just go back to the children's corner
Post edited June 29, 2025 by Matthias00001111
Matthias00001111
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Registered: May 2011
From Germany
Posted June 29, 2025
If that happened, then I would have a credible legal basis to sue GOG/CDPR, since they have been selling their games claiming DRM-free for many years. If that were to happen, I could imagine there would be a class-action lawsuit on the part of GOG's customers, to allow them to recoup the money that GOG would have fraudulently taken.
On the other hand, Steam users, Ubisoft users, people who bought The Crew have no legal grounds to sue, since they accepted when they purchased the game that they were only ever buying a temporary license.
The terms under which a product is sold are important. They matter. And that is a very important distinction between DRM and DRM-free. Even if GOG one day turned out to be lying, I have legal cover, by virtue of the terms I agreed to when I purchased games from GOG.
On every game installer there is an updated user agreement. Have fun reading every single piece of it on every single backup you have made.
LegoDnD
Conspiracy Nut
Registered: Mar 2013
From United States
Posted June 29, 2025
This is your standard of hypothetical and it's pathetic dogshit.
ListyG
New User
Registered: Jul 2020
From France
Posted June 29, 2025
high rated
^ Above rants by Matthias00001111 against DRM-Free games by claiming GOG has been putting DRM in them then demanding the equivalent of "So, how long have you been beating your wife. Prove to me you haven't" 'hypothetical' logic, is a perfect living example of exactly what I said in post 102:-
"The problem is you only have to read many comments left underneath Ross's videos to see that a lot of people are treating this whole thing as less "something to support in addition to DRM-Free", and more a pro-DRM comfort blanket that's dishonestly giving them the impression "Sign this, and governments around the world will soon grant you all the benefits of DRM-Free in your DRM'd games" as self-justification for continuing to throw money at everything they claim to hate, so they don't have to change bad consumer habits."
Getting sulky and triggered at being called out for "talking the talk, but not walking the walk", isn't going to change anything at all. (And yes, such "I JUST WANT ALL MY DRM'D ONLINE-SERVICE GAMES TO WORK LIKE OFFLINE-FRIENDLY DRM-FREE ONES WHILST LEAVING ALL THE DRM IN, AND WHEN IT BREAKS, I'LL COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE DRM THAT ACTUALLY BROKE IT AND IF YOU COMMENT ON THAT I'LL RESPOND 'HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT TO BUY'" posts are 10 a penny on Youtube. ;-)
"The problem is you only have to read many comments left underneath Ross's videos to see that a lot of people are treating this whole thing as less "something to support in addition to DRM-Free", and more a pro-DRM comfort blanket that's dishonestly giving them the impression "Sign this, and governments around the world will soon grant you all the benefits of DRM-Free in your DRM'd games" as self-justification for continuing to throw money at everything they claim to hate, so they don't have to change bad consumer habits."
Getting sulky and triggered at being called out for "talking the talk, but not walking the walk", isn't going to change anything at all. (And yes, such "I JUST WANT ALL MY DRM'D ONLINE-SERVICE GAMES TO WORK LIKE OFFLINE-FRIENDLY DRM-FREE ONES WHILST LEAVING ALL THE DRM IN, AND WHEN IT BREAKS, I'LL COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE DRM THAT ACTUALLY BROKE IT AND IF YOU COMMENT ON THAT I'LL RESPOND 'HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT TO BUY'" posts are 10 a penny on Youtube. ;-)
Post edited June 29, 2025 by ListyG
dnovraD
GOG is not a charity! No Subscriptions!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted June 29, 2025
Short of literally carving the executable data into a rock* and putting that rock somewhere nice and safe, there's really no guarantee. Data is ultimately ephemeral, but for most people, a functional lifetime of 25 years is probably plenty of time?
*Rock (presumably not something soft like talc.), crystaline mineral structure, slab of glass, something that'd be hard to damage and has permanence otherwise.
*Rock (presumably not something soft like talc.), crystaline mineral structure, slab of glass, something that'd be hard to damage and has permanence otherwise.
Post edited June 29, 2025 by dnovraD
Matthias00001111
New User
Registered: May 2011
From Germany
Posted June 29, 2025
Getting sulky and triggered at being called out for "talking the talk, but not walking the walk", isn't going to change anything at all. (And yes, "I JUST WANT ALL MY DRM'D ONLINE-SERVICE GAMES TO WORK LIKE OFFLINE-FRIENDLY DRM-FREE ONES WHILST LEAVING ALL THE DRM IN, AND WHEN IT BREAKS, I'LL COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE DRM THAT ACTUALLY BROKE IT AND IF YOU COMMENT ON THAT I'LL RESPOND 'HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT TO BUY'" posts are 10 a penny on Youtube. ;-)
*Rock (presumably not something soft like talc.), crystaline mineral structure, slab of glass, something that'd be hard to damage and has permanence otherwise.
Unfortunately, you still haven't addressed my issue of why you open discussions about topics you have proven to have no clue about...
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/stop_killing_games_round_1_is_a_miss/post142
Post edited June 29, 2025 by Matthias00001111
ListyG
New User
Registered: Jul 2020
From France
Matthias00001111
New User
Registered: May 2011
From Germany
Posted June 29, 2025
Actual garbage-human behavior.
It's not complicated: just prove why GOG wouldn't implement ever any killswitches to the games they sell...
Post edited June 29, 2025 by Matthias00001111
Time4Tea
Free speech and honey!
Registered: Jan 2015
From United States
Posted June 29, 2025
I trust GOG and I would not assume they are dishonest unless I saw some evidence to that affect. In other words, I believe they deserve the benefit of the doubt. In the absence of evidence, it is only reasonable to give the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, presumably you don't ever purchase anything from private corporations, until you have proven 100% that they are honest?
Aside from that, I agree to GOG's terms of purchase, when I purchase a game here. To me, the terms of purchase are very important. I do not agree to Steam's, Ubisoft's terms of purchase, because they explicitly strip me of any ownership of that game I am buying. GOG's terms do not do that. And even if GOG did turn out to be fraudulent (which I think is extremely unlikely in the way you are suggesting), they would then be violating their own terms of purchase and clearly committing fraud. Therefore, I believe I would have some degree of cover and legal recourse. The same is not true for Steam, Ubisoft, therefore I refuse to buy from them.
Beyond that, it is blatantly obvious that you are trolling and trying to disrupt the thread. I'm not going to respond to you any further.
Matthias00001111
New User
Registered: May 2011
From Germany
Posted June 29, 2025
Hence my killswitch hypothetical
You guys are so dramatic.
Post edited June 29, 2025 by Matthias00001111
MegisED
Make GOG DRM-free, again. Stop Killing Games
Registered: Apr 2015
From Netherlands
Posted June 29, 2025
643k and counting on the European citizens' initiative.
GOG can still help pull it across the finish line.
Stop Destroying Videogames
GOG can still help pull it across the finish line.
Stop Destroying Videogames
Post edited June 29, 2025 by MegisED
ListyG
New User
Registered: Jul 2020
From France
Posted June 29, 2025
high rated
Clearly the truth hit a nerve there eh? People aren't "obsessed" over what DRM'd games you buy personally but rather when it comes to campaigns like this, a lot of people naturally have more respect for those who lead by example or practise what they preach. Something you might consider rather than keep doubling down on the equivalent of asking someone to sign a petition against environmental pollution then go home and place a string of orders from known fly-tippers, then defend that by inventing baseless conspiracies, then double-down with personal attacks. Yeah, that's gonna get "more signatures" for sure. I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually. Have a good weekend.
Matthias00001111
New User
Registered: May 2011
From Germany
Posted June 29, 2025
You guys argue like vegans, lmao
Stop Destroying Videogames
Post edited June 29, 2025 by Matthias00001111
Bankai9212
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Registered: Aug 2012
From United States
Posted June 29, 2025
GOG can still help pull it across the finish line.
Stop Destroying Videogames