Imagine signing something where someone has zero clue for a solutions and relying on both pity and gaslighting in order to gain signatures.

When this blows up in their face, those who ssaw it coming will be eating popcorn.

Also Ross is all for more drm, so no its not in line with what GOG is.
What's funny is that Ross did all this because of an MP game aka the crew.

When some people gloat about the failure of a harmless proactive citizen initiative, you can see who the bad guys are..

We don't all agree that it's harmless.

Proactive would be not buying DRMed games in the first place. Gamers not casually signing away their rights - actually giving the merest thought to what they are doing, before they act.

Starting a petition to beg lawmakers (who clearly don't give a crap) to come and bail you out, after 20-something years of self-destructive, ignorant purchasing habits is not, in the slightest bit, 'proactive'.

Exactly..

Speaking of I actually was unaware of drm-free storefronts till around the time I jioned Gog as no one was talking about such storefronts on youtube till I randomly stumbled upon some person who was and I instantly went to Gog.. as a result and thats also a good example of another problem thats still while not as bad now a days as the last few years more people have been talking about Gog .. Its still a big problem as many bigger people on the net especially the game channels that have admitted they know of Gog never mention Gog and always direct people to Steam.. Themselves also saying they never use Gog unless a game can't be found on a drmed platform

I replied to bankai, because he showed quite a bad behaviour.
I'm not against who has simply a different reasonable opinion without personal attacks or misinfo.

I'm not sure what you consider harmful about this tho. Can you repeat it or link to where you explained it?

Btw I meant "proactive" in the sense that it was citizens finally taking initiative. It could be just a wrong english term tho, so don't focus on it, please.

If the call for boycotting worked, we wouldn't even be in this situation in the first place. So dismissing an initiative saying "don't buy DRM instead", is frankly useless. I avoided Steam for like 2 decades, and nothing changed. You need masses for this. For once we managed to convince 600K gamers to partecipate, so I'm damn happy about it.

P.s: btw GOG could have supported this, adding its spin to it. There were some talks in progress, but the employees were fired along the way.

I think GOG Preservation Program is like another step in that direction along the way. If the publisher has to leave the game in a functional state, then GOG could pick up on it and provide support to keep it running in the future and therefore still could sell the game here.

As for boycotting certain parctices of the indusrty - some of them are so unfair that they should not be even allowed, and this is where such initiative comes from, to start pointing that we're treated unfairly.

It depends on what you are trying to achieve.

Here I never had a game I bought stop working because of a developer/publisher decision. So refusing to buy DRMed content fulfilled the objective I had: preventing the inclusion of time bombs in my games.

Does it work to change the market? Not at the current scale, but I don’t care: changing the market is not my goal. If people want to keep buying time-limited products, it’s their problem, not mine.

The boycotting topic was in relation to the initiative.
If you don't care about changing the market, then you don't care if this campaign succeeds or fails.
(but then, why are you even in this thread?)

I’m here because I try to stay up-to-date on pro-DRM campaigns.

"Know your enemy" and all that stuff ;)

And yet I insist. If not for Endless Sky, a game like Escape Velocity would be stuck on the Mac. Marathon, would be stuck on the Mac. (Or the golden cage iPad) Pathways into Darkness never was officially ported.

The After Dark series went Mac only after Berkley Systems went bust.
Even the support for that is questionable at best! Great, a whole four modules! And you don't even get Starry Night!

This campaign isn't absolutely pro-DRM, it's more like trying to preserve online games (even if there's no legal distinction for them) after end of support.
Like defeating online "DRM" only when a title is commercially dead, so it won't become lost.
It's just another approach to preservation, about a matter that GOG isn't able to deal with atm (MMORPGs, for example).

https://alephone.lhowon.org

The operating word would seems to have slipped past you. Yes, I'm quite aware of the Aleph One port with Bungie's direct blessing, but that doesn't mean a bundle of chrysanthemums if it didn't exist.

No.

Because thats again makes no sense.

If you try to emulate old MSDOS programs, namely games that had to run at maximum performance, then yes you have to include an emulation of the hardware back then.

Thats because MSDOS was so primitive it did NOT shield the programs from the hardware, so the games had to be programmed for specific old hardware that existed back then.

But that code never has to change either. You dont have to upgrade it. Its always the exact same old hardware you have to emulate.

Your claim was, that old stuff hits the wall because emulation hits the wall when there are big changes.
Your emulation has to emulate the same shit all the time, just on a different HW base.
And that is done for decades now. There is a fucking Dosbox for Android. The HW and SW base difference can't be much more different compared to Android vs Windows.
As long as the HW is strong enough, we can emulate everything on everything (see "can it run Doom").

The only possible fuckup would be an OS company, that would block said emulators.
And the only one I see there is Apple.

Granted, other companies can start to work against emulating their systems, like Nintendo does for decades now.
But old console games is a very different can of worms.