Those Quake and HeXen pages are for mods made by players, right? Do you think we should start a section in the wiki for games that work without Steam after being modded? I'm wondering if stuff like that should be separated (I've been thinking about that ever since I first saw Fallout 3 on the list.)
There is already such a section in the wiki; Patchable Games. Doom 3 BFG Edition is included there, which can be made independent of the Steam client, thanks to a source port (similarly to my examples). Of course, if you disagree with Doom 3 BFG Edition's entry in the section, then you'll disagree with my examples as well (at least for this section).
On another note, Eradicator and NAM, being DOSBox games, can run without the Steam client. Interestingly enough, a bin/cue image of the games' discs can be found in a subfolder of the games' installation directory. I suspect this might also be the case for other Night Dive games.
Ah, okay, you're right. I really need to familiarize myself with what was already on that wiki before I found it.
Actually, this brings up an interesting thing that I wanted to collectively ask everyone about: What are we considering "near-official" when it comes to patches? I'm pretty sure FOSE isn't made by Bethesda, but instructions telling us to download FOSE to make Fallout 3 DRM-free are on the page, and Fallout 3 isn't even in the patchable games section. Should I move it, or should I delete it, or something else entirely? And how about these Quake games, are those patches near-official? I believe Doom 3 BFG would be okay in there, since the actual source code for the game was released to the public; do we have a consensus about this, or am I just way overthinking it? Either way, I'll add the Quake stuff when I can get to a computer.
what is the point of including games that don't work correctly without steam, i.e. not being able to save?
I think those can safely be removed. Or at least put into their own category, for those who don't care about have to complete the game in one session ;). But I would think for most gamers that simply wouldn't be an option.
I think they should still be listed, personally. Look at stuff like Goat Simulator, which is just a gigantic, silly sandbox. Save data doesn't really do a whole lot in that game, but it's still tons of fun to play around in it for a while.