Are you from the past?
Same question applies here as well.

No I just know how it works. Most people just ignore this fact or are ignorant and don't know this.

you still have to find My Computer first. It's not always on the desktop, and it's not always in the start menu. You can hide those easily enough, and once you do, what then? Open up some random folder so you can move to the left display to look at all your drives so you can click on my computer so you can see what you have free?

Surely... 2 letters is easier than all that work... isn't it?

Many times what's intuitive is shortened forms of words. cp looks like copy without having to type half the letters. mv is short for move, ls is short for list, cat for concatenate... etc. What's not intuitive about that? Much like D&D you might need a little guidance before you go fully on your own.

I'll tell you what's not intuitive... What if your mouse breaks, you lose it, now what? I've had mice break on me before, or the left mouse button doesn't work anymore for some reason. Overspecializing in using a mouse and not using keyboard shortcuts or just knowing the names of commands preps you to walk over a mine-field. I'm sure a good number of people don't know how to alt-tab.


Trying to remember commands is stupid. Using commands so they get ingrained is how you do it. Traversing a directory by using cd (Change Directory) just becomes automatic. So does using most other commands. The more you use the more you'll just use them. Don't remember a specific one? Look it up, find it, learn it.

I guess i should comment i'm self taught, i didn't have the internet, i didn't have quick help, i didn't even have a teacher. I bought a few books, and almost read them cover to cover. Some things made no sense like why doubling a number over and over again eventually becomes negatives, before type sizes were explained. Lastly, i had to figure it out for myself, much like homework assignments that are intended to keep knowledge in your mind long enough that you absorb it and can use it later.

Even if it isn't easy, you should still learn it. Another vital skill is using wild cards, or more importantly, Regular Expressions. If you refuse, that's your choice, but don't say it isn't easier to type 2 letters than it is to use a mouse for everything.
Hmmm since i was born in the past, i'll answer... yes...

I could try to convince you all day long. But I win all the same. MS gets paid. They used to make OSs that describe intuitive usage. No matter what you say about Linux distros (even where I agree), Linux will stagnate because of the obstinate user base not giving in and making everything into a GUI. That is all there is mate. It isn't even an opinion. MS just makes $h!t tons of money proving this point every day. =/

whatever...

And this here is the problem you have with Windows.
Most people have familiarized themselves with one OS, and depending on their usage, gotten quite proficient with it. Trying to do said familiar things on another OS proves to be harder than they expect, even if another user finds them quite simpler.
Case in point, me trying to troubleshoot my father's iMac to see why he can't connect to the internet. The diagnostic tools I'm looking for (network properties, prompt for ping and tracert etc) are nowhere to be found. Asking my father about them shows it's less than 2 seconds away, but it's on an OS I'm not familiar with.
But I do accept the fact that the tools are there, and if you know how to use them, they are quite fast and easy to use. I don't say that they are not there unless I know that, not because I don't know where the functions are.
And I'm always happy to be corrected, it means I learned something new :)

Tis true. I don't have to like it either. I hate the new MS OSs. But up til 7, they made intuitive OSs. That is why they make money where nobody does with Linux. Even for free they just barely get a market share because the developers won't learn. Irony >_>


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Jmich has a good point. I like different OSs. Its a matter of getting use to one thing and finding the other to be a pain in the @$$. Add to my intuitive argument, things get to be to much a bother to use for average users. Hell I use to fix PC's and I still hate crossing OSs for this reason.

Surely you aren't aware of RedHat then... worth $1.5 billion.

I am. I applied but didn't get the job I was after with one of their locales as a matter of fact.

But let us be fare. B.Gates made an estimated $20,000 in just the time it took for him to get up and go take a leak. That dude maybe the greatest thief in history because windows made him $95 billion, or there about. Not even taking into account MS as a whole.

Dude. I dig everything you are saying. I know DOS commands from when I was a child and learned the ropes for most OSs up. I am just saying, as much as I like Klimt as an artist, the Mona Lisa still gets the fame. Because that girl is just to darn easy on the eyes lol XD

No, not even close. The biggest thief probably goes to Rockefellers, and The Federal Reserve (which is a private bank), who have no gold to back the money they print. Everyone with a US note, is being scammed right now.

From what I gathered, they even sold the German gold reserves that were lying in New York for years to China (which has gathered as much gold as possible in the last years) via Hong Kong (there they are melted and origin is made untracable), so Germany has been scammed too. Selling other peoples property is not nice.
The gold should have been transfered to Frankfurt years ago (before all this), but Angela Merkel (the evil capitalist b****) and her clan changed the plan and it stayed there (not for long as it seems...).

So I suppose that begs the question: Just how optional are these additional purchases? Are we going to find applications installed that we have to buy before we can use (like an OS equivalent of ARMA 3's shitty DLC policies)? Or are MS hoping that putting the store out there for everyone will guarantee enough revenue without cheap, nasty tricks?

You mean like Norton, McAfee, or the Office Lite? That depends on the OEM.
Worst case scenario (and a highly unlikely one at that), use AIK and customize the installation ISO to your liking. Similar to what the big companies' IT will be doing.

Given that MS are very concerned about adoption I think that the last thing they're going to be doing is having Norton installed by default. :P

Well the store uses Xbox Live services. But that doesn't really mean much. I remember reading through the EULA, and honestly i was disgusted. But it wasn't me agreeing to use it to download a solitaire game though.

If Win8 was any indication, basic programs/features will just be missing (although you could download them for free, after you agree to the online contract)

As for if it includes say office 2015 that has to be registered first before you can use it... i wouldn't be surprised to find a few big products forced on you, and a convenient buy button using microsoft points to unlock them.