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General discussionRemoved from catalog: Fallout 1, 2, & Tactics(1041 posts)(1041 posts)
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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

<img src="http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2013/12/0100650e79ca7799caa0064b2e2611a62396ed6f.png">

All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted December 31, 2013
I consider myself fortunate that I purchased the Fallout trilogy a long while ago. I do wish that they will make a return under Bethesda's rule. I'll gladly rebuy a bunch of Bethesda's classics (like the first few TES games or Id's old catalog) if they ever make it to GOG. Please, make it happen.

And XIII if you can. So sorry I missed that one before it got pulled. :/
Posted December 31, 2013
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KainDrake: I have to mention that Steam hasn't taken them down. Is there something about GoG that they had to take it down first?
GOG is (usually) quicker with the removals than steam, only case I can recall being different was with Second Sight, which steam removed on a Saturday and GOG the next Monday. Other than that, if it is during GOG's business hours, GOG does usually respond within an hour of notification.
Posted December 31, 2013
It's the rights holders that decide.

As far as Steamworks goes, I don't think that a publisher is required to use the Steam client only with their games, but I'm not sure about that. I really doubt it though. If the publisher is using Steamworks, and the only way to play the game legally is only through the Steam client, then my guess is that's a decision made by the publisher. Which is understandable if they do decide that, because everything is consolidated and publishers are seeing good ROI using the service.
Posted December 31, 2013
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JohnnyDollar: It's the rights holders that decide.

As far as Steamworks goes, I don't think that a publisher is required to use the Steam client only with their games, but I'm not sure about that. I really doubt it though. If the publisher is using Steamworks, and the only way to play the game legally is only through the Steam client, then my guess is that's a decision made by the publisher. Which is understandable if they do decide that, because everything is consolidated and publishers are seeing good ROI using the service.
While use of steamworks is not required by valve/steam majority of steam users demand full steamworks integration.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Redfern: Thats why i hate Steam really. Its not just sell locked-in games, its not just hogs whole market, its started to eating even titles which was DRM-free for long time before steam existed. First puppygames announced that "steam wins" and removed DRM-free titles from sale, now Fallout becoming steam-only title or something like that.
First Steam decided to conquire all indies (Desura), looks like now they decided gobble classics too and destroy Gog. Humble becomes almost Steam reseller. Its exceptionally sad news.
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Novotnus: While I'm not the greatest Steam fan myself, I can't blame them for what happened. Every shop has to please its customers to stay in business. Steam audience wants Fallout, so if Steam can get a deal to sell those popular games, we can't blame Valve for, well, not removing Fallout titles in an act of solidarity with us. Sure, that would be a nice gesture... but totally impossible in the business world.
Its all great, i happy that Steam users can now play %somegame%. Things that really dont makes me happy is when ONLY steam users become able to play %somegame%. Nothing anger me more then seein another title "available only on Steam". And now we have even "you was able to get it drm-free, but NO MORE" situations. After some time, i guess we already passed that mark, situation become just like black hole - its grows, absorbs more games, developers and users, grows even more, starting to pull everything around inside and in some time there is nothing outside of it.
Its monopoly in worst form - monopoly built by blind customers.
Posted December 31, 2013
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JohnnyDollar: It's the rights holders that decide.

As far as Steamworks goes, I don't think that a publisher is required to use the Steam client only with their games, but I'm not sure about that. I really doubt it though. If the publisher is using Steamworks, and the only way to play the game legally is only through the Steam client, then my guess is that's a decision made by the publisher. Which is understandable if they do decide that, because everything is consolidated and publishers are seeing good ROI using the service.
I spoke to a dev about their game requiring Steamworks, they said flat out that their publisher required it and they would release it both ways if it were up to them.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Redfern: Well, its not really matter which reason of Fallout was. It was removed and its already nothing good. Maybe GOG will make it to return...but in same time they should do things which they already started last year - to attract new, indie, games in store. Since overall DRM situation gettin worse, gettin more stuff in store is only option.
Actually I think they get a lot of indie devs attention. Some games don't pass GOG's quality control (sometimes even the good ones, just to recall an incident of me making an ass of myself a year ago), some are - probably - simply unpolished \ bad \ not fitting the site's profile and are refused by GOG and...
...well, read throug any recent indie platformer release topic and see people's reactions :)
Posted December 31, 2013
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JohnnyDollar: It's the rights holders that decide.

As far as Steamworks goes, I don't think that a publisher is required to use the Steam client only with their games, but I'm not sure about that. I really doubt it though. If the publisher is using Steamworks, and the only way to play the game legally is only through the Steam client, then my guess is that's a decision made by the publisher. Which is understandable if they do decide that, because everything is consolidated and publishers are seeing good ROI using the service.
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liamphoenix: I spoke to a dev about their game requiring Steamworks, they said flat out that their publisher required it and they would release it both ways if it were up to them.
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For many distributors absence of steamworks (drm) is means only one thing - piracy.
While Steam presence really removed some "intensive" forms of DRM with crazy checks every 15 minutes, overall its just made it "extensive" by embedding in literally everything.
And with introduction of SteamOS i just interested how many time it will take untill some crazy distributors will start to demand inclusion of TPM modules hardware or start calling all other OSes promoting piracy and breaking IP laws.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Redfern: Its all great, i happy that Steam users can now play %somegame%. Things that really dont makes me happy is when ONLY steam users become able to play %somegame%. Nothing anger me more then seein another title "available only on Steam". And now we have even "you was able to get it drm-free, but NO MORE" situations. After some time, i guess we already passed that mark, situation become just like black hole - its grows, absorbs more games, developers and users, grows even more, starting to pull everything around inside and in some time there is nothing outside of it.
Its monopoly in worst form - monopoly built by blind customers.
Publishers are the ones to blame here. They bribe customers with Steam features to push DRM, regional pricing and all that. It works for enough customers, so the publishers feel that they don't need to satisfy remaining gamers, who'd gladly sacrifice Steam features for DRM-free, one fair price for the whole world release.
Posted December 31, 2013
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TheBitterness: "Due to circumstances beyond our control[...]"

Just what were these circumstances? The only thing that I can think of is that Zeni-Max has quietly secured the rights to these games and has decided to not do business with companies that offer to sell them without any DRM. I doubt I'm the only one that would be surprised by this sort of move given the way that id Software has received very, very little support from them (look at id's back-catalogue and tell me that Rage isn't an aberration) and the way the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games have been allowed to look very pretty but be otherwise buggy as hell. Quality isn't anywhere a part of the Zeni-Max code of conduct.

But if not this...what? Is GoG able to tell us what happened, even obliquely, or was there a gag order put to it?
It's not big secret and been know since the court battle between Interplay and Bethesda few years back. In the setlement Interplay agreed to hand over the distribution rights of the classic to classic fallout games to Bethesda in excange of couple million $. In addition Interplay had to give up all rights to Fallout based MMO, the real prize Bethesda was after. Now Bethesda owns ALL the rights to fallout series.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Redfern: Well, its not really matter which reason of Fallout was. It was removed and its already nothing good. Maybe GOG will make it to return...but in same time they should do things which they already started last year - to attract new, indie, games in store. Since overall DRM situation gettin worse, gettin more stuff in store is only option.
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Novotnus: Actually I think they get a lot of indie devs attention. Some games don't pass GOG's quality control (sometimes even the good ones, just to recall an incident of me making an ass of myself a year ago), some are - probably - simply unpolished \ bad \ not fitting the site's profile and are refused by GOG and...
...well, read throug any recent indie platformer release topic and see people's reactions :)
Are you about lack of linux port in trine 2? its was pretty expectable topic if you about that...
Posted December 31, 2013
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Redfern: Thats why i hate Steam really. Its not just sell locked-in games, its not just hogs whole market, its started to eating even titles which was DRM-free for long time before steam existed. First puppygames announced that "steam wins" and removed DRM-free titles from sale, now Fallout becoming steam-only title or something like that.
First Steam decided to conquire all indies (Desura), looks like now they decided gobble classics too and destroy Gog. Humble becomes almost Steam reseller. Its exceptionally sad news.
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Novotnus: While I'm not the greatest Steam fan myself, I can't blame them for what happened. Every shop has to please its customers to stay in business. Steam audience wants Fallout, so if Steam can get a deal to sell those popular games, we can't blame Valve for, well, not removing Fallout titles in an act of solidarity with us. Sure, that would be a nice gesture... but totally impossible in the business world.
Ok, but why not have them in both places (Steam and GOG)? There are few titles selling through both retailers and people are OK with it - they will pick the reseller of their choice..
Posted December 31, 2013
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Novotnus: While I'm not the greatest Steam fan myself, I can't blame them for what happened. Every shop has to please its customers to stay in business. Steam audience wants Fallout, so if Steam can get a deal to sell those popular games, we can't blame Valve for, well, not removing Fallout titles in an act of solidarity with us. Sure, that would be a nice gesture... but totally impossible in the business world.
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Tarhiel: Ok, but why not have them in both places (Steam and GOG)? There are few titles selling through both retailers and people are OK with it - they will pick the reseller of their choice..
Piracy, maybe? Usually if developers decides to go really steam-only, in hardcore way, they cease all access options not in form of steam-key stuff.
another "oh crap, its so easy to share GOG installer", but, oh wait, how much of free Fallouts was redeemed on winter sale? I guess that move was a biiig "f*ck you" from GOG to will known drm-happy store. (and big gift for GOG customers too)
Posted December 31, 2013
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Tarhiel: Ok, but why not have them in both places (Steam and GOG)? There are few titles selling through both retailers and people are OK with it - they will pick the reseller of their choice..
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Redfern: Piracy, maybe? Usually if developers decides to go really steam-only, in hardcore way, they cease all access options not in form of steam-key stuff.
another "oh crap, its so easy to share GOG installer", but, oh wait, how much of free Fallouts was redeemed on winter sale? I guess that move was a biiig "f*ck you" from GOG to will known drm-happy store. (and big gift for GOG customers too)
Heck, I bought them in a box a while back, they showed up with a full install and no DRM so I grabbed the box. I was just happy to further consolidate when they were up for free. One more disc I never need again as the Fallout installers are now in the GOG folder on my backup drive.
Posted December 31, 2013
It's sad to see Fallout go, I just hope that bethesda/zenimax corrects this at some point.
And just a /salute to GOG for letting the 3 games for free as a farewell gift.
Most of the us may have them bought them both on retail and digital download, but I really appreciate what GOG did, so that the old Fallout can reach maximum audience.
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