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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

<img src="http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2013/12/0100650e79ca7799caa0064b2e2611a62396ed6f.png">

All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted December 31, 2013
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Redfern: Are you about lack of linux port in trine 2? its was pretty expectable topic if you about that...
Nah, about The Cat Lady being rejected when it came out in Dec 2012 :)
But everything turned out good, the game came to GOG and it seems to be doing pretty well sales-wise. So I'm happy :) That was about me making an ass of myself.
About indie platformers - just find one topic that doesn't have: 'nah, another indie platformer on GOG' kind of posts :) Check poor Ethan: Meteor Hunter first :)
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Novotnus
Posted December 31, 2013
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nikmousa: It's sad to see Fallout go, I just hope that bethesda/zenimax corrects this at some point.
And just a /salute to GOG for letting the 3 games for free as a farewell gift.
Most of the us may have them bought them both on retail and digital download, but I really appreciate what GOG did, so that the old Fallout can reach maximum audience.
The games deserve it. I've replayed 1, 2, and Tactics many times and still fire them up to this day. Never bothered to finish Fallout 3 and I haven't even turned on New Vegas.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Tarhiel: Ok, but why not have them in both places (Steam and GOG)? There are few titles selling through both retailers and people are OK with it - they will pick the reseller of their choice..
That's how I would love it to be. I don't say I don't mind Fallouts leaving GOG, I'm as mad as everybody else. All I'm saying is that it's not Valve's fault.
Posted December 31, 2013
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liamphoenix: Heck, I bought them in a box a while back, they showed up with a full install and no DRM so I grabbed the box. I was just happy to further consolidate when they were up for free. One more disc I never need again as the Fallout installers are now in the GOG folder on my backup drive.
I bought the Interplay Fallout collection too a few years back. I was glad to see it without DRM. They also included unofficial patches on the disc. Was that the same with yours?
Posted December 31, 2013
Lol at the fact that Interplay allowed GOG to release them all for free before handing back the rights.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Tarhiel: Ok, but why not have them in both places (Steam and GOG)? There are few titles selling through both retailers and people are OK with it - they will pick the reseller of their choice..
They could double sell, probably to a lot more people than just me.

My 30 game Steam library... almost every one I would buy again if they were here. They could join the hundreds I own via my preferred distribution system.

Of course they're all from places like 2K, EA, and Ubisoft. Some of them find their way here, and I buy them when they do, but a lot of them never will.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Kristian: If GOG would continue to sell the games despite lack of an agreement who would sue them? That party is obviously the party that forced them to stop selling the games, by an (atleast implicit) threat to sue them otherwise. Isn't that party Bethesda?
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JMich: You seem to be under the impression that GOG would sell the games (any games) if there wasn't the "threat of suing". I'll direct you to [url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/dark_fall_creator_dissapointed_in_gog/post1]two threads which was the result of a single facebook post. Since there was a chance that GOG was selling games without having the rights to do so, GOG removed them. The entity that would "sue them" if that was the case? An individual. GOG didn't remove the games from sale because of legal threats, they removed them because if they weren't sure they had the rights to sell them, removing them was the right thing to do.

So no, only thing Bethesda has done wrong is not having a contract with GOG, the removal of games is Interplay's (and GOG's) doing, same as the free Fallout.
Feel free to bash Bethesda for other reasons, but Bethesda is not forcing GOG to remove the games.

Anyway, have a happy new year, and let's hope we'll see the return of Fallouts, along with many more games.
"You seem to be under the impression that GOG would sell the games (any games) if there wasn't the "threat of suing"."

Not really in they way you may be imagining. This situation has been known about for a quite a while. There are no legal ambiguities involved at all unlike your links. Interplay does not dispute that they have lost the right to sell those games. All parties, GOG, Interplay and Bethesda are agreed exactly on what the legal situation currently is.

"So no, only thing Bethesda has done wrong is not having a contract with GOG, the removal of games is Interplay's (and GOG's) doing, same as the free Fallout.
Feel free to bash Bethesda for other reasons, but Bethesda is not forcing GOG to remove the games."

By not having a contract with GOG concerning the Fallout games, Bethesda is forcing GOG to remove those games. What else would "forcing" entail? If GOG were to ignore the rights transfer and keep selling the games Bethesda would sue them. Interplay wouldn't and couldn't.

Interplay has lost some rights they had previously, that is it. That is purely a matter between Interplay and Bethesda.

If GOG gets to sell the Fallout games in 2014 or not is between GOG and Bethesda. Interplay is not involved in that decision at all hence they are not involved in the decision that as of right now GOG won't be selling those games anymore. If GOG and Bethesda already had signed an agreement, GOG could continue selling the games and there is nothing that Interplay could or would do about it. Nobody at Interplay sat down and said: "After Dec 31, 2013 GOG won't be able to sell Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics". Somebody at Bethesda DID make that decision by not signing a contract with GOG.

Anyways, a happy new year to you too! :)
Posted December 31, 2013
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McDon: Lol at the fact that Interplay allowed GOG to release them all for free before handing back the rights.
Yes, that was a giant F you to Bethesda.
Posted December 31, 2013
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JohnnyDollar: I bought the Interplay Fallout collection too a few years back. I was glad to see it without DRM. They also included unofficial patches on the disc. Was that the same with yours?
Yup, that's the box. I was still happy to get them here too even if I had no complaints about my existing copy.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Tarhiel: Ok, but why not have them in both places (Steam and GOG)? There are few titles selling through both retailers and people are OK with it - they will pick the reseller of their choice..
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Redfern: Piracy, maybe? Usually if developers decides to go really steam-only, in hardcore way, they cease all access options not in form of steam-key stuff.
another "oh crap, its so easy to share GOG installer", but, oh wait, how much of free Fallouts was redeemed on winter sale? I guess that move was a biiig "f*ck you" from GOG to will known drm-happy store. (and big gift for GOG customers too)
That´s a lame excuse. GOG said several times that pirate groups don´t make copies of their games, because it´s too easy - and in this scene it is all about respect for the skill ("see how quick we were able to crack this new game´s DRM?") + even when somebody uploads GOG installer on torrent sites, people are actually encouraging others in comment to go and buy these games - because they are DRM free!!!
Not to mention that this fact alone drew many of us here.

I just still don´t see why both of these versions could not coexist in the net.

PS: Oh, and I forgot to mention that sales are good here as well :)
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Tarhiel
Posted December 31, 2013
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TheBitterness: I doubt I'm the only one that would be surprised by this sort of move given the way that id Software has received very, very little support from them (look at id's back-catalogue and tell me that Rage isn't an aberration) and the way the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games have been allowed to look very pretty but be otherwise buggy as hell. Quality isn't anywhere a part of the Zeni-Max code of conduct.
Well, Fallout 2 was very buggy as well when it was first released. Fallout 3 and New Vegas were not the only Fallout games to be a mess at launch.
Posted December 31, 2013
A very sad announcement. I hope it will be added back later this year, but I highly doubt it.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Morten79
Posted December 31, 2013
The Year is 2 hours old for me, and I already don't like it.
Posted December 31, 2013
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JohnnyDollar: I bought the Interplay Fallout collection too a few years back. I was glad to see it without DRM. They also included unofficial patches on the disc. Was that the same with yours?
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liamphoenix: Yup, that's the box. I was still happy to get them here too even if I had no complaints about my existing copy.
Yeah, that was why I never bought them here. They had a Fallout 1 giveaway a year or so ago, and that was on my shelf, then they gave them all away, so the other two are on my shelf now. I'll take them if you want to give them to me. Maybe I could make some use out of the goodies one of these days. :P
Post edited December 31, 2013 by JohnnyDollar
Posted December 31, 2013
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Redfern: Are you about lack of linux port in trine 2? its was pretty expectable topic if you about that...
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Novotnus: Nah, about The Cat Lady being rejected when it came out in Dec 2012 :)
But everything turned out good, the game came to GOG and it seems to be doing pretty well sales-wise. So I'm happy :) That was about me making an ass of myself.
About indie platformers - just find one topic that doesn't have: 'nah, another indie platformer on GOG' kind of posts :) Check poor Ethan: Meteor Hunter first :)
Oh, Cat Lady...if you developer,i sorry i cannot discuss this game with you, since i still not found...not kicked myself in ass enough to actually try it, but i should. And if you really developer, then how about adding linux version of it on Desura? there is way to package AGS games with linux-ported runtime, you know? WadgetEye already did that with Gemini Rue
Next...platformers...well, heck, yes. There is little too much indie platformers lately, i stumbled in that problem too. A cannot blame not peoples not developers, but there is really little too much of them. But that doesnt means they necessary bad. Trine is platformer too after all.
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