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The one that started it all...

<i>Star Wars</i>&trade;: Dark Forces, the very first FPS ever to be set in the Star Wars® universe is DRM-free for Windows and Linux, now on GOG.com with a special 20% launch discount!

When <i>Star Wars</i>&trade;: Dark Forces was first released in 1995, it quickly proved to be a revolutionary title not only because it provided the most immersive Star Wars® experience to date, but also because it was one of the very earliest first person shooters to introduce design elements such as realistic multi-story structures, the freedom of movement to jump and crouch, and a well written storyline complete with beautiful pre-rendered cutscenes. The story of Dark Forces covers the humble beginnings for Kyle Katarn, an Imperial officer turned Rebel operative, who would go on to become a master force wielder in the later Jedi Knight series of games and inspire countless stories taking place in the Star Wars™ Legends universe.

<i>Star Wars</i>&trade;: Dark Forces is a unique opportunity to experience the game that shaped video gaming and the Star Wars™ franchise for years to come. Specially prepared and meticulously tested on Windows and Linux, now on GOG.com! The 20% launch discount will last for 72 hours until Friday, January 23, at 1:59 PM GMT.
Someone please tell me you guys are working on getting Dark Forces 2 on GoG.

Dark Forces 2 is my favorite in the series and I've wanted to replay it for close to a decade. But can't because of just how poorly the game runs on modern operating systems. It's the one game I can never, ever get running on any of my systems. Nor in a virtual machine without having separate problems.

I'm just praying that GoG gets it on their service like how they miraculously got Thief the Dark Project working.
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CrowTRobo: Tranquilizer gun, LOL. When you say blacklisted, was it not available for sale even with the edits?
Not quite.

While I referred to it as "blacklisting", It's generally called "indexing" ("Indizierung") in Germany, because it refers to media being put on the "Index", or "Liste der jugendgefährdenden Medien" ("List of Media Harmful to Young People", as Wikipedia calls it).
If this happens, sale is still entirely permitted, but also comes with severe regulations and restrictions. Primarily, this means that a store can sell it, but not on display anwhere minors may have access to.
So, unless someone is running some sort of adults-only venue, selling these pieces of media has to be an exclusively "under-the-counter"-affair.

The possibly even more severe restriction that comes with a blacklisting is that advertisement of any kind is illegal. This actually includes ordinary reports and articles in publications and may even extend to the mere mention of a blacklisted game's/book's/film's/record's title. It tends to be more enforced in gaming magazines than in those dealing with movies, because certain gaming mags often had to go to ridiculous lengths to skate around a certain game's title. They'd often just describe the game in nebulous terms without ever naming it, change the title to some ridiculous alternative ("Boom" and "Hundsfelsen 4D" for "Doom" and "Wolfenstein 3D") or always and exclusively refer to a freely available censored version (they would specifically write "Half-Life (German Version)", even if it was about about the game in general, since the original version is blacklisted).

In theory, this is meant to ensure that adults can purchase and consume the media they wish and minors are protected from its evil, corrupting influence. Officially, censorship is not a thing the German government does.

In practice, however, this means that it becomes significantly harder and sometimes even impossible for German adults to actually get these things. Lots of stores won't carry blacklisted items at all because it's a hassle to them and the lack of ads and such means the number of sales will be extremely low anyway.
Amazon doesn't sell them (hell, it took them an eternity to actually get regular, freely available 18+ titles, and even then, you'll have to jump through ridiculous hoops to order these).
They won't pop up in digital stores such as Steam or Origin if you have a German IP and there's even a small number of games, such as the Saint's Row series, for which you can't even activate a legally imported, uncensored retail release on Steam in Germany.
If it's a movie, you're never allowed to show it uncensored on TV or streaming services.

It's actually gotten to the point where quite a lot of games and some movies do not even get uncensored releases in Germany at all, meaning you'd have to import them from Austria.

However, as awful as this may sound, the situation has actually been improving quite a lot over the past decade or so. The blacklisting practices are not nearly as ridiculous anymore as they were in the 80's and 90's, where pretty harmless games like 1942 ("glorification of war"), Commando (same) or Star Wars: Dark Forces ("too violent") were yanked off store shelves.
Additionally, they changed certain laws in 2003, which stipulate that any movie or game, once it has an official age rating from the FSK/USK, can not be blacklisted or banned (a separate, significantly rarer practice, which does indeed forbid sale) anymore. Before that, the ratings meant practically nothing, and anything that was available one day might have been indexed the next because some moral guardian got offended and submitted it to the BPJM.
Unfortunately, sometimes only a censored version gets a rating, so it doesn't work out entirely (and some publishers only submit a censored one to the ratings board in the first place, because they don't want to pay the fee for the process more than once).

Also, quite a lot of classics got released from the "Index" in recent years, sometimes because their "sentence" was over (a blacklisting lasts 25 years unless it's renewed), sometimes because the publisher tried to actively "free" it prematurely; so now the uncut versions of movies such as Predator, A Nightmare on Elmstreet, Commando, The Running Man, RoboCop, Death Race 2000, The Terminator or The Thing are widely available again, some even with new 16+ ratings, meaning they're now suitable for teens. Games like Doom, Doom 2, Quake, Max Payne 1, Crusader: No Remorse or the above mentioned 1942 were also released in that manner.

Hopefully, this cleared things up.
Post edited January 21, 2015 by InfraSuperman
Is there a benefit to playing on hard? I always used to play on normal, got through first two missions on hard, but the clown car of enemies just feels kinda unrealistic.
Post edited January 21, 2015 by ShadowWulfe
Maybe I'm missing something but my set-up for Dark Forces seems to only offer options for playing with a joystick; is there some toggle adjustment to play with mouse/keyboard? Gamecard does not seem to require joystick/gamepad.
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undeadcow: Maybe I'm missing something but my set-up for Dark Forces seems
Click cancel or whatever that button at the bottom right. It kept prompting me for that too.
Holy Shit, I've never played this before.

I downloaded, installed, started and wondered where the hell the bar was at which point I realized all these years I've been playing DF 2 thinking it was #1. XD Well this should be fun, a whole new campaign.
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tinyE: I realized all these years I've been playing DF 2 thinking it was #1.
Not surprising, since that game was more commonly referred to as "Jedi Knight", with "Dark Forces II" being relegated to a subtitle. In Germany, they even dropped the Dark Forces part entirely.
The fact that it was then followed by Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Knight 3, made things even more needlessly confusing.
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tinyE: I realized all these years I've been playing DF 2 thinking it was #1.
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InfraSuperman: Not surprising, since that game was more commonly referred to as "Jedi Knight", with "Dark Forces II" being relegated to a subtitle. In Germany, they even dropped the Dark Forces part entirely.
The fact that it was then followed by Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Knight 3, made things even more needlessly confusing.
Cool. I don't feel so stupid.
And how do you like these old pixel graphics? The max. resolution is 320x400 and not 640x480, if I remember correctly ...
Post edited January 21, 2015 by opeter2
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InfraSuperman: Not surprising, since that game was more commonly referred to as "Jedi Knight", with "Dark Forces II" being relegated to a subtitle. In Germany, they even dropped the Dark Forces part entirely.
The fact that it was then followed by Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Knight 3, made things even more needlessly confusing.
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tinyE: Cool. I don't feel so stupid.
Pity, cause you look it! :P

Seriously, I thought I was the only one who did that when I was a kid haha. I didn't know Dark Forces existed until about 2003.
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tinyE: Cool. I don't feel so stupid.
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darthspudius: Pity, cause you look it! :P

Seriously, I thought I was the only one who did that when I was a kid haha. I didn't know Dark Forces existed until about 2003.
Okay as of this moment, on disc, I have DF 2, JK: Mysteries of the Sith (which is an expansion for DF 2...of course), JK 2: Jedi Outcast, JK: Jedi Academy. Now Jedi Academy is newer though it doesn't have a 3 in the name so it should be before JK 2 but in JK 2 Kyle learns to be a jedi while in JA he IS a jedi not that it matters because you don't get to use him and have to start over as a padawan which is kind of what you have to do in JK: Mysteries of the Sith and ummmmm......I'm sorry what were we talking about?
Post edited January 21, 2015 by tinyE
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tinyE: I'm sorry what were we talking about?
That you are missing a disc with Dark Forces.
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tinyE: I'm sorry what were we talking about?
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Grargar: That you are missing a disc with Dark Forces.
As I mentioned before I never had that on disc, but now I have it here, and I'm guessing I'll soon have those others in here too. :D
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tinyE: As I mentioned before I never had that on disc, but now I have it here, and I'm guessing I'll soon have those others in here too. :D
I know you said it. Just messing with you. :P
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darthspudius: Pity, cause you look it! :P

Seriously, I thought I was the only one who did that when I was a kid haha. I didn't know Dark Forces existed until about 2003.
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tinyE: Okay as of this moment, on disc, I have DF 2, JK: Mysteries of the Sith (which is an expansion for DF 2...of course), JK 2: Jedi Outcast, JK: Jedi Academy. Now Jedi Academy is newer though it doesn't have a 3 in the name so it should be before JK 2 but in JK 2 Kyle learns to be a jedi while in JA he IS a jedi not that it matters because you don't get to use him and have to start over as a padawan which is kind of what you have to do in JK: Mysteries of the Sith and ummmmm......I'm sorry what were we talking about?
Jedi Academy is great fun.