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Posted April 15, 2015
History Lessons

A new batch of Paradox Strategy titles comes to GOG.com, just in time for yet another floor of the Bundle Tower! That's <span class="bold">Europa Universalis II</span>, <span class="bold">Europa Universalis: Rome Gold</span> and <span class="bold">Hearts of Iron II: Complete</span> - our bundle of <span class="bold">History Lessons</span>!

<span class="bold">Europa Universalis II</span> is very much like the original title - but with a longer timeline, hundreds of new provinces and playable countries, and even more detail combined with quality of life improvements. It's the sequel to the award winning (and groundbreaking) strategy title that's spawned so many of Paradox Entertainment's future games - including the two released today.
One of EU's direct descendants, <span class="bold">Europa Universalis: Rome Gold</span> also known simply as Rome, brings the familiar gameplay into 250 years of Roman history, with a few twists like a fully 3D-map, and a story that can start all the way back in the year 27 B.C. The Gold release also includes the Vae Victis expansion pack.
<span class="bold">Hearts of Iron II: Complete</span>, like any Paradox sequel, is both deeper and more streamlined than the previous entry, offering an all-around improved hour-by-hour World War 2 grand-strategy simulation full of historical detail, and tactical depth. Small-scale invasion scenarios to all out global war - this one has you covered.

Learning history has never been more fun, than with the Bundle Tower <span class="bold">History Lessons</span>, available now 75% off on GOG.com!
Posted April 15, 2015
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Matruchus: Yeah, people were asking for a steam release of Iron Cross years ago but paradox said: "Zero chance". Still crossing fingers for a gog release eitherway.
Definitely. But from Paradox' standpoint it makes sense as it is only a fan addon. So they released it only that platform with close ties to Paradox which would be GamersGate.
Post edited April 15, 2015 by ElTerprise
Posted April 15, 2015
Anyone know how Europa Universalis: Rome Gold compares to say Rome Total War? Looks interesting, and I've always been a fan of campaign map play over say real time battles. Europa Universalis: Rome Gold looks to include a lot more to do on the map and the graphics don't look to bad.
Posted April 15, 2015
Dear Paradox, I'd like to try your strategy games, but .. you made too many of them, I can't decide what to buy +_+
Posted April 16, 2015
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Spinorial: I fear that's precisely the reasoning he was going with. Sweeping epics work for tercios and cavalry charges, not maps, pawns, and income ledgers ;)
Fair enough. :P I guess I wouldn't mind more variety in his music either.

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ElTerprise: Definitely. But from Paradox' standpoint it makes sense as it is only a fan addon. So they released it only that platform with close ties to Paradox which would be GamersGate.
GG separated itself from Paradox years ago, though. These days, that reasoning doesn't really hold up anymore.

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deleted_user: Anyone know how Europa Universalis: Rome Gold compares to say Rome Total War? Looks interesting, and I've always been a fan of campaign map play over say real time battles. Europa Universalis: Rome Gold looks to include a lot more to do on the map and the graphics don't look to bad.
While I haven't played EU: Rome yet, I can tell you right away that the two aren't really comparable. Though Rome: Total War has a strategic map, the primary focus and point of interest are the field battles; the campaign essentially only exists to service that. By comparison, EU is purely a grand strategy game and battles are entirely automated affairs.
Posted April 16, 2015
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phaolo: Dear Paradox, I'd like to try your strategy games, but .. you made too many of them, I can't decide what to buy +_+
Not knowing if FtG or AoD or DH will come here, this pack is the best solution. You certainly don't need the older entries in the series. The three games mentioned are improvements over EU2 and HoI2, but mods can compensate for most of their content.
Posted April 16, 2015
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phaolo: Dear Paradox, I'd like to try your strategy games, but .. you made too many of them, I can't decide what to buy +_+
Definitely Hearts of Iron 2 Complete + EU2. Arguably one of the best games paradox ever made.
Posted April 16, 2015
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Gandos: While I haven't played EU: Rome yet, I can tell you right away that the two aren't really comparable. Though Rome: Total War has a strategic map, the primary focus and point of interest are the field battles; the campaign essentially only exists to service that. By comparison, EU is purely a grand strategy game and battles are entirely automated affairs.
That's fine with me as I said prefer the strategic game map. In Rome Total War I automate all the battles anyway. I was really looking at how they compare as far as strategic features on the campaign map are concerned, like the ability to assassinate a character, choose a new king ect.

I'm looking for a game with a heavy focus on the campaign map and features... real time battles doesn't interest me.
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Posted April 16, 2015
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Matruchus: Definitely Hearts of Iron 2 Complete + EU2. Arguably one of the best games paradox ever made.
And Crusader Kings II aka Game of Thrones the game (for real!) ;).
Posted April 16, 2015
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Gandos: While I haven't played EU: Rome yet, I can tell you right away that the two aren't really comparable. Though Rome: Total War has a strategic map, the primary focus and point of interest are the field battles; the campaign essentially only exists to service that. By comparison, EU is purely a grand strategy game and battles are entirely automated affairs.
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That's fine with me as I said prefer the strategic game map. In Rome Total War I automate all the battles anyway. I was really looking at how they compare as far as strategic features on the campaign map are concerned, like the ability to assassinate a character, choose a new king ect.

I'm looking for a game with a heavy focus on the campaign map and features... real time battles doesn't interest me.
Well, assassinating specific characters and such is more of a Crusader Kings affair. Most of Paradox's grand strategy games, including EU, focus more on nations rather than individuals.

That said, EU is definitely ALL about the campaign map and features. So if that sounds appealing to you, you should definitely give it a try. Like I said, though, I haven't played EU: Rome yet, so I can't vouch for its quality.

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....a story that can start all the way back in the year 27 B.C.
You mean a story that can END in the year 27 B.C. The game's starting year is 280 B.C. :P
Post edited April 16, 2015 by Gandos
Posted April 16, 2015
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Gandos: Well, assassinating specific characters and such is more of a Crusader Kings affair. Most of Paradox's grand strategy games, including EU, focus more on nations rather than individuals.

That said, EU is definitely ALL about the campaign map and features. So if that sounds appealing to you, you should definitely give it a try. Like I said, though, I haven't played EU: Rome yet, so I can't vouch for its quality.
From what i know EU:Rome is more or less the middle of the road between EU and CK..

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Gandos: GG separated itself from Paradox years ago, though. These days, that reasoning doesn't really hold up anymore.
I know. But i think the release of Iron Cross was before the seperation.
Post edited April 16, 2015 by ElTerprise
Posted April 16, 2015
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Gandos: Well, assassinating specific characters and such is more of a Crusader Kings affair. Most of Paradox's grand strategy games, including EU, focus more on nations rather than individuals.

That said, EU is definitely ALL about the campaign map and features. So if that sounds appealing to you, you should definitely give it a try. Like I said, though, I haven't played EU: Rome yet, so I can't vouch for its quality.
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ElTerprise: From what i know EU:Rome is more or less the middle of the road between EU and CK..
Ah, I didn't know that. I guess it kind of makes sense, though. In Roman politics, individuals and/or Patrician families played a pivotal role.

Hmmm...all of a sudden, I find the idea of Crusader Kings: Rome intriguing. =P
Posted April 16, 2015
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Gandos: Ah, I didn't know that. I guess it kind of makes sense, though. In Roman politics, individuals and/or Patrician families played a pivotal role.

Hmmm...all of a sudden, I find the idea of Crusader Kings: Rome intriguing. =P
I actually haven't played it. But i was told it was some kind of experiment combining the Elements of Crusader kings and Europa Universalis. I don't know how good this game really is.
Posted April 16, 2015
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Gandos: Ah, I didn't know that. I guess it kind of makes sense, though. In Roman politics, individuals and/or Patrician families played a pivotal role.

Hmmm...all of a sudden, I find the idea of Crusader Kings: Rome intriguing. =P
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ElTerprise: I actually haven't played it. But i was told it was some kind of experiment combining the Elements of Crusader kings and Europa Universalis. I don't know how good this game really is.
Its a good game but its more warfare oriented then Crusader Kings. Afterall you are trying to create the roman empire :)
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Posted April 16, 2015
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Matruchus: Its a good game but its more warfare oriented then Crusader Kings.
Hmm. I think i should get it then. I really love Crusader kings (well the second one) but a bit more warfare in it doesn't sound bad at all :).
Posted April 16, 2015
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Spinorial: Not knowing if FtG or AoD or DH will come here, this pack is the best solution. You certainly don't need the older entries in the series[..]
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Matruchus: Definitely Hearts of Iron 2 Complete + EU2. Arguably one of the best games paradox ever made.
Thanks to both, even if I'm considering ALL games, not only those here.
I'd like to identify the best and skip the rest.
Post edited April 16, 2015 by phaolo
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