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AliensCrew: And as I mentioned in the other thread...regional pricing exits everywhere...not only in the gaming industry. Every good you buy (cars, gas, food, clothes and so on) are regional priced.

And GOG is the only company I know who don't let their customer suffer from which regulation.
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demonbox77: Cars, gas, food and clothes have costs for delivery and custom duties, while here we're speaking of digital goods, with NO delivery costs.
Sorry, but this is bullshit.

If a car, which was build IN germany cost here more than in China (for example), when that has nothing to do with transport cost etc. Before the eastern European expasion of the EU it was common that a german car was more expensive in germany than it was in Poland or Hungary etc.

And regional pricing takes also effects for non physical goods like the visit in a theatre or hotel. And man power.

To eliminate regional pricing the world needs one and only one currency.
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demonbox77: Cars, gas, food and clothes have costs for delivery and custom duties, while here we're speaking of digital goods, with NO delivery costs.
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AliensCrew: Sorry, but this is bullshit.

If a car, which was build IN germany cost here more than in China (for example), when that has nothing to do with transport cost etc. Before the eastern European expasion of the EU it was common that a german car was more expensive in germany than it was in Poland or Hungary etc.

And regional pricing takes also effects for non physical goods like the visit in a theatre or hotel. And man power.

To eliminate regional pricing the world needs one and only one currency.
No I really think you are wrong on this.

China isn't the best example, but again I dare you to buy your Mercedes/VW/BWM from China and then have it delivered to you in DE...

About theatres and hotels, does it cost you more booking a room/show online from DE than let's say book the same room/show online in the country it actually is?

Regional pricing is not wrong per se, is wrong in the way it's been handled by most online gaming platforms.

But I'll quit here,since i really like GOG, the point is if I want to buy Gabriel Knight from an online digital shop (like GoG) in Italy (or Germany) I'll have to pay 26.29$, instead of the 19,99$ of the States, the 10,89$ of Russia or the 19.79$ of Poland.
Vats, Exchange rate for currencies, delivery costs, custom duties and minimum/standard wages are a nice smokescreen, 'cause they are different also between Germany and Italy and still we pay the same price.
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AliensCrew: Sorry, but this is bullshit.

If a car, which was build IN germany cost here more than in China (for example), when that has nothing to do with transport cost etc. Before the eastern European expasion of the EU it was common that a german car was more expensive in germany than it was in Poland or Hungary etc.

And regional pricing takes also effects for non physical goods like the visit in a theatre or hotel. And man power.

To eliminate regional pricing the world needs one and only one currency.
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demonbox77: No I really think you are wrong on this.

China isn't the best example, but again I dare you to buy your Mercedes/VW/BWM from China and then have it delivered to you in DE...

About theatres and hotels, does it cost you more booking a room/show online from DE than let's say book the same room/show online in the country it actually is?

Regional pricing is not wrong per se, is wrong in the way it's been handled by most online gaming platforms.

But I'll quit here,since i really like GOG, the point is if I want to buy Gabriel Knight from an online digital shop (like GoG) in Italy (or Germany) I'll have to pay 26.29$, instead of the 19,99$ of the States, the 10,89$ of Russia or the 19.79$ of Poland.
Vats, Exchange rate for currencies, delivery costs, custom duties and minimum/standard wages are a nice smokescreen, 'cause they are different also between Germany and Italy and still we pay the same price.
Why is China a bad example? We are talking about the same good with different prices. And the same with hotels. A hotel in turkey (for example) with the same service than one in germany is much more cheaper. I do call this regional prices. And this exists for all goods...material ones and ohters.

And about Gabriel Knight...that's wrong. GOG gives you the difference back, so you pay only 15,89 € (without discount). And that are ca. 19.99 $.

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AliensCrew: To eliminate regional pricing the world needs one and only one currency.
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Geralt_of_Rivia: No, to eliminate regional pricing you would need global laws to forbid such practice. The currency has nothing to do with it.
Such laws would mean the end of the rich western States like the European ones or the USA...
Post edited September 10, 2014 by AliensCrew
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AliensCrew: ... Without the politics of exploitation of so called developing countries the western civilizations will go down. Think about one thing for example. What will European and the USA do if they don't get their oil for a discount price (cause the citizen of these lands where it comes from would get a fair wage). But this is a subject that would blow this thread to the moon if we continue. ...
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Trilarion: It really is a bit outside of the scope of this thread. Therefore only a single comment: Market theory tells us that any two countries can always come to an economic balance, the salaries just have to equal relative productivities. So Europe and the USA simply have to stay more productive compared to developed countries (putting more emphasis on education, more efficient organisation, ...) or they have to lower their standard of living or both. But one way or the other you will get a new balance. The world will not end and nobody will really go down.

As for regional pricing. My best angle against it is discrimination. It's just not allowed to make people different offers based on their geographical location (except shipping, ..) within a country because this would be discrimination. So it should also not be allowed to do it within countries, especially not for digital goods.
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AliensCrew: ...We are talking about the same good with different prices. And the same with hotels. A hotel in turkey (for example) with the same service than one in germany is much more cheaper. I do call this regional prices. ...
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Trilarion: But there is a huge difference. Everyone can by the cheap hotel in turkey independent where you come from for the same price. Regional pricing in the internet is rather like, you pay 4 times more for the cheap hotel in Turkey because you come from Senegal and not from Korea. This is rather the opposite of your example.

For physical goods the price (excluding shipping) never depends on where you come from, or does it?
That has nothing to do with the productive of a country as it does with his natural resourcesses. Do you think that the European States or the US can cover they need supply of oil without the delivery from other countries? Russia can perhabs do this but no other industrial state have this capabillity.

Certainly does it makes a different. Not where I come from but wehre I'm living. If I live in germany a car is much more expensive than in China. Gas for that car is much more expensive here than in the USA. It has nothing to do with my racial descent but all where I live my life.
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IAmSinistar: If we had flat pricing, where a pair of Chinese jeans were require to cost roughly the same as a pair of American jeans, we wouldn't have lost so much of our manufacturing base.
Sure cheaper labor is a factor (and here I thought USA stood for "no slavary", yet we out source our jobs to near-slave like countries) but taxes are just as guilty of forcing companys out of usa.

I'm tired of hearing stories of contaminated goods out of china, most sad of all baby formula and pet food!
Btw, if you guys drink Juice Boxes here in usa, be warned, 90% of them come from china supplied apple juice.
(aka, company either packages the juice boxes in china, or ships huge tankers of apple juice to usa for packaging)
Not to mention the toxic paint and plastics they use in lots of products, againt I have to mention kids toys, boo to china.
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mrkgnao: Not sure about that one. If that were so, I'd expect regional pricing in IC too.
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Matruchus: What is IC?
India, China
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Matruchus: What is IC?
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mrkgnao: India, China
Ah, ok. Isn't it regionally priced there? Cheaper then US or EU?
Post edited December 10, 2014 by Matruchus
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mrkgnao: India, China
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Matruchus: Ah, ok. Isn't it regionally priced there? Cheaper then US or EU?
Same as US, as far as I know.

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mrkgnao: Not sure about that one. If that were so, I'd expect regional pricing in IC too.
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Grargar: Give it time. It was only some months before that Canada got regional pricing on Steam.
Where do I see information about Steam's regional pricing policies?
Post edited December 10, 2014 by mrkgnao
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mrkgnao: India, China
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Matruchus: Ah, ok. Isn't it regionally priced there? Cheaper then US or EU?
Steam hasn't a RP scheme for India or China at this time. But that does not mean there are no resellers for these markets that offer lower prices...

India's internet penetration rate is still fairly low ( but booming) . There is only one digital platform that specifically targets the Indian market : Games4U . prices seem higher than in Russia ( But the RUB went down by 40% in no time ), but are lower than in the EU or the US.
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JudasIscariot: But they do have the RU discount so there's that caveat.
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IAmSinistar: That's a separate issue to me these days. No arbitrarily higher prices for anyone is the main thing; I'm less concerned that some people get a bonus discount.
I see it a bit differently.

If Europe, UK, Australia, and/or the former Soviet Union all have lower prices that the baseline, I would say we are having arbitrarily higher prices for:

United Arab Emirates (AE), Afghanistan (AF), Antigua and Barbuda (AG), Anguilla (AI), Albania (AL), Angola (AO), American Samoa (AS), Aruba (AW), Bosnia and Herzegovina (BA), Barbados (BB), Bangladesh (BD), Burkina Faso (BF), Bahrain (BH), Burundi (BI), Benin (BJ), Saint Barthélemy (BL), Bermuda (BM), Brunei Darussalam (BN), Bahamas (BS), Bhutan (BT), Botswana (BW), Belize (BZ), Canada (CA), Cocos (Keeling) Islands (CC), Congo, the Democratic Republic of the (CD), Central African Republic (CF), Côte d'Ivoire (CI), Cook Islands (CK), Cameroon (CM), China (CN), Cabo Verde (CV), Christmas Island (CX), Djibouti (DJ), Dominica (DM), Algeria (DZ), Egypt (EG), Western Sahara (EH), Eritrea (ER), Ethiopia (ET), Fiji (FJ), Falkland Islands (Malvinas) (FK), Micronesia, Federated States of (FM), Faroe Islands (FO), Gabon (GA), Grenada (GD), Georgia (GE), French Guiana (GF), Guernsey (GG), Ghana (GH), Gibraltar (GI), Greenland (GL), Gambia (GM), Guinea (GN), Guadeloupe (GP), Equatorial Guinea (GQ), Guam (GU), Guinea-Bissau (GW), Guyana (GY), Hong Kong (HK), Indonesia (ID), Israel (IL), Isle of Man (IM), India (IN), British Indian Ocean Territory (IO), Iraq (IQ), Iran, Islamic Republic of (IR), Jersey (JE), Jamaica (JM), Jordan (JO), Japan (JP), Kenya (KE), Cambodia (KH), Kiribati (KI), Comoros (KM), Saint Kitts and Nevis (KN), Korea, Democratic People's Republic of (KP), Korea, Republic of (KR), Kuwait (KW), Cayman Islands (KY), Lao People's Democratic Republic (LA), Lebanon (LB), Saint Lucia (LC), Sri Lanka (LK), Liberia (LR), Lesotho (LS), Libya (LY), Morocco (MA), Montenegro (ME), Saint Martin (French part) (MF), Madagascar (MG), Marshall Islands (MH), Macedonia, the former Yugoslav Republic of (MK), Mali (ML), Myanmar (MM), Mongolia (MN), Macao (MO), Northern Mariana Islands (MP), Martinique (MQ), Mauritania (MR), Montserrat (MS), Mauritius (MU), Maldives (MV), Malawi (MW), Malaysia (MY), Mozambique (MZ), Namibia (NA), New Caledonia (NC), Niger (NE), Norfolk Island (NF), Nigeria (NG), Nepal (NP), Nauru (NR), Niue (NU), Oman (OM), French Polynesia (PF), Papua New Guinea (PG), Philippines (PH), Pakistan (PK), Saint Pierre and Miquelon (PM), Pitcairn (PN), Palestine, State of (PS), Palau (PW), Qatar (QA), Réunion (RE), Serbia (RS), Rwanda (RW), Saudi Arabia (SA), Solomon Islands (SB), Seychelles (SC), Sudan (SD), Singapore (SG), Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha (SH), Sierra Leone (SL), Senegal (SN), Somalia (SO), Suriname (SR), Sao Tome and Principe (ST), Syrian Arab Republic (SY), Swaziland (SZ), Turks and Caicos Islands (TC), Chad (TD), Togo (TG), Thailand (TH), Tokelau (TK), Timor-Leste (TL), Tunisia (TN), Tonga (TO), Turkey (TR), Trinidad and Tobago (TT), Tuvalu (TV), Taiwan, Province of China (TW), Tanzania, United Republic of (TZ), Uganda (UG), United States Minor Outlying Islands (UM), United States (US), Holy See (Vatican City State) (VA), Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (VC), Virgin Islands, British (VG), Virgin Islands, U.S. (VI), Viet Nam (VN), Vanuatu (VU), Wallis and Futuna (WF), Samoa (WS), Yemen (YE), Mayotte (YT), South Africa (ZA), Zambia (ZM), Zimbabwe (ZW)
Post edited January 30, 2015 by mrkgnao
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Redfern: its hard to see much countries in worse shape
When's the last time you checked African countries? Good parts of South and Central America? India? China, if we're talking about the standard of living of most regular people? In fact, most of Asia really?
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PaterAlf: Is there any logic behind the regional pricing of Spacecom (80% off during the Summer Sale)?

Russia $1.69
Brazil $1.99
Australia $2.09
USA $2.49
Germany / Sweden / Switzerland $2.69
United Kingdom $3.39
Romania $3.79

Anyone still wants to tell me that regional pricing is about fairness???
It's a GOG bug. On May 5, they changed the price from $14.99 to $9.99 in US (and similarly in EU, UK, Ex-Soviet countries, Australasia etc.), but forgot to do it in three regions (EU Eastern Europe (e.g. Romania); Rest of Europe (e.g. Serbia); Most of the World (e.g. China)). These regions (which account for most of the world) continue to pay the older, higher, price in normal times and during sales.

Not that I think that without the bug there is any fairness in regional pricing.
Post edited June 04, 2015 by mrkgnao