Posted July 10, 2015

JMich
A Horrible Human Person. If you need me, chat.
Registered: Apr 2011
From Greece

MaximumBunny
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Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted July 10, 2015

So i guess that it would be good if GOG makes a sticky where they provide a list with legal key sellers, so people can check if the online shop where they want to buy is legal and thrustworthy or not.
Most people don't care as long as it's cheap. But for all that they've "saved" they've spent way more than me for much less. And I don't have "unauthorized reseller supporter" hanging over my head to boot. :>

Pheace
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From Netherlands
Posted July 10, 2015
Indeed, 'Legal or not' is not the right term. Endorsed or not would be better. If what GMG was doing was 'Illegal' then no doubt they would've been taken off sale after CDP called them on it (like they took off the sale price), but they didn't.

jsjrodman
dorkface
Registered: Dec 2011
From United States
Posted July 10, 2015
In this modern multi-national, internet world, with digital goods of no physical manifestation, you will find that there are many things where "Is it legal or not?" is not yet decided.
Essentially courts decide whether things are allowed or not and by what rules when lawsuits come to them. (Okay complete disclosure, that's just ONE model of law systems, but it's a common element of many European and American legal systems anyway).
As a result of this, it's difficult to answer the question with authority. The most relevant answer is likely something along these lines.
Is it legal to buy keys from GOG-designated resellers? Very probably.
Is it legal to buy keys from resellers who have never been mentioned? Probably not.
If you are unsure if a seller of game keys is employing legitimate behavior, it might be interesting to request information on the specific methods by which they acquire keys in general and how they will acquire the key that they plan to sell to you. In my opinion, a legitimate seller should be able to provide that information, and you should be able to corroborate it with a third party such as the game publisher.
A seller of game keys who is not forthcoming about the specific manner in which they acquire keys is likely black or grey market.
Now, your opinion on "used game keys" may color some of what you choose to do.
I personally strongly believe in transferrable goods (and despite the legal dances of annoying lawyers, they are goods), so I believe that I have the legal right to transfer digitally purchased games. However, I do not believe that the way to fight for this right of mine to be widely recognized is to buy and/or sell keys via grey markets.
Essentially courts decide whether things are allowed or not and by what rules when lawsuits come to them. (Okay complete disclosure, that's just ONE model of law systems, but it's a common element of many European and American legal systems anyway).
As a result of this, it's difficult to answer the question with authority. The most relevant answer is likely something along these lines.
Is it legal to buy keys from GOG-designated resellers? Very probably.
Is it legal to buy keys from resellers who have never been mentioned? Probably not.
If you are unsure if a seller of game keys is employing legitimate behavior, it might be interesting to request information on the specific methods by which they acquire keys in general and how they will acquire the key that they plan to sell to you. In my opinion, a legitimate seller should be able to provide that information, and you should be able to corroborate it with a third party such as the game publisher.
A seller of game keys who is not forthcoming about the specific manner in which they acquire keys is likely black or grey market.
Now, your opinion on "used game keys" may color some of what you choose to do.
I personally strongly believe in transferrable goods (and despite the legal dances of annoying lawyers, they are goods), so I believe that I have the legal right to transfer digitally purchased games. However, I do not believe that the way to fight for this right of mine to be widely recognized is to buy and/or sell keys via grey markets.

nightcraw1er.488
rw
Registered: Apr 2012
From United Kingdom
Posted July 10, 2015

The rest of the pay for rental stores can all go up in smoke (virtually).


Asbeau
shot the food
Registered: Nov 2011
From United Kingdom

Trilarion
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From Germany
Posted July 10, 2015
I guess there is such a thing as a a legal key seller but not all might be legal. Maybe the keys offered there were meant for a different use and are sold without permission of CDP and GOG.
cdkeys says:
"With an extensive, reliable supply chain and purchasing power, cdkeys.com can aggregate sales volume - we then pass these bulk reductions on to you, which ensures our pricing is the most competitive around!"
So it may simply be their superior purchasing power skills. The department where GOG sometimes fails (for example with regard to regional prices).
cdkeys says:
"With an extensive, reliable supply chain and purchasing power, cdkeys.com can aggregate sales volume - we then pass these bulk reductions on to you, which ensures our pricing is the most competitive around!"
So it may simply be their superior purchasing power skills. The department where GOG sometimes fails (for example with regard to regional prices).

Grargar
Insert cat to continue
Registered: Aug 2012
From Greece
Posted July 10, 2015

http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-pc-cd-key?mw_aref=74dth566

Trilarion
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From Germany
Posted July 10, 2015
I wonder if cdkeys has some kind of regional pricing too. If not it would be against all the philosophies of Namco Bandai or CDP or GOG.

ShadowAngel.207
New User
Registered: Nov 2008
From Germany
Posted July 10, 2015
There are legit keysellers. The developer Rebellion listed some after a lot of illegal Sniper Elite 3 keys got busted on Steam
http://steamcommunity.com/app/238090/discussions/0/540744936577983546/
They get their keys from the publishers
Most of the other buy games in countries where they are cheap, like Russia and other poor countries and resell them, making quite a profit in the process.
And there are some illegal ones who might go so far as to using Keygens
http://steamcommunity.com/app/238090/discussions/0/540744936577983546/
They get their keys from the publishers
Most of the other buy games in countries where they are cheap, like Russia and other poor countries and resell them, making quite a profit in the process.
And there are some illegal ones who might go so far as to using Keygens

fr33kSh0w2012
CyberFAGGOT 20 DOGSHITS!
Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Posted July 10, 2015
What about www.G2a.com Legit or not?
Here
https://www.g2a.com/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-cd-key-gog-global.html
They are all DIGITAL KEYS
some as low as $39.98 AUD
Here
https://www.g2a.com/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-cd-key-gog-global.html
They are all DIGITAL KEYS
some as low as $39.98 AUD
Post edited July 10, 2015 by fr33kSh0w2012

apehater
cdpr red & gog = a fraud, liars, russophobs...
Registered: Jul 2012
From Cuba
Posted July 10, 2015

Here
https://www.g2a.com/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-cd-key-gog-global.html
They are all DIGITAL KEYS
some as low as $39.98 AUD

fr33kSh0w2012
CyberFAGGOT 20 DOGSHITS!
Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Posted July 10, 2015

Here
https://www.g2a.com/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-cd-key-gog-global.html
They are all DIGITAL KEYS
some as low as $39.98 AUD


phaolo
I live.. again!
Registered: Dec 2013
From Italy

Grargar
Insert cat to continue
Registered: Aug 2012
From Greece