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fr33kSh0w2012: Steam Is going to be in some SERIOUS shit then!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/292030/
That is not a GOG key.
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Gonchi: I'm curious about Nuuvem. They had the Witcher games discounted deeply during their recent sale with GOG keys.
There's nothing wrong with Nuuvem, it's just a regional store.
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Gonchi: I'm curious about Nuuvem. They had the Witcher games discounted deeply during their recent sale with GOG keys.
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Primo_Victoria: There's nothing wrong with Nuuvem, it's just a regional store.
I use them quite a lot for Steam keys. What I meant was in regards to the no other authorized re-sellers thing for GOG games that happened following the CDPR and GMG spat over Witcher 3 (link for context).
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Primo_Victoria: There's nothing wrong with Nuuvem, it's just a regional store.
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Gonchi: I use them quite a lot for Steam keys. What I meant was in regards to the no other authorized re-sellers thing for GOG games that happened following the CDPR and GMG spat over Witcher 3 (link for context).
Yeah, GOG tends to fuck up a lot.
Oh no not again.

To legally play a game, you need a license, a permission from the rightsholder. Playing a game without a license is copyright infringement.

A key is not a license and doesn't grant a license, no more than having a key to a house grants you the real estate title.

Selling keys is really, really questionable. Selling keys is basically the same as posting magnet hashes. Are magnet hashes copyright infringement or protected speech? Who the fuck knows!

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Aside from copyright infringement, key sellers can be also locked up or fined for fraud (telling customers they're buying licensed games) or unjust enrichment (profiting off something you have no business profiting off).

Buying keys is questionable in exactly the opposite way. If key selling is deemed illegal, a buyer might be able to claim to be a victim of fraud. On the other hand, if key selling is deemed a bullshit but legal service for "people who already have licenses", the buyers are infringers and have to face fines and possibly jail sentences.

...I miss SimonG so much.

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Trilarion: cdkeys says:

"With an extensive, reliable supply chain and purchasing power, cdkeys.com can aggregate sales volume - we then pass these bulk reductions on to you, which ensures our pricing is the most competitive around!"

So it may simply be their superior purchasing power skills. The department where GOG sometimes fails (for example with regard to regional prices).
Quite unsurprisingly, this is bullshit flavored bullshit. "Purchasing power" doesn't apply for game keys at all, and legal resellers aren't free to undercut pricing by passing their commission onto customers at their leisure. The one market entity which can be said to have the capability to enforce game prices is Steam, and we know for a fact they don't generally do it, perhaps outside of edge cases ("your $999 match-three game looks like money laundering and bad PR for our company, so we won't be selling it").

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Regardless of the (negligible) risk of fines or jailtime, buying keys on unauthorized websites doesn't make the rightsholder owe you a license. There isn't a requirement for rightsholders to spend resources on chasing down scammers or lose their IP.
Post edited July 20, 2015 by Starmaker
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moonshineshadow: No idea about the law, but it is clear that gog is the only official seller of their keys:
https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/599546190942838785

There was also a forum post on this, but I can't find it at the moment.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen (tweet).

Steam clearly is selling their Witcher series, and the BIGGEST source of their revenue. I would love to see Gaben bans Witcher series from Steam and let's see how GOG puts up with that.
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moonshineshadow: No idea about the law, but it is clear that gog is the only official seller of their keys:
https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/599546190942838785

There was also a forum post on this, but I can't find it at the moment.
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zeroxxx: This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen (tweet).

Steam clearly is selling their Witcher series, and the BIGGEST source of their revenue. I would love to see Gaben bans Witcher series from Steam and let's see how GOG puts up with that.
It just means that there are no resellers of gog keys. That has nothing to do with steam, since they are not selling gog keys.
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moonshineshadow: No idea about the law, but it is clear that gog is the only official seller of their keys:
https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/599546190942838785

There was also a forum post on this, but I can't find it at the moment.
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zeroxxx: This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen (tweet).

Steam clearly is selling their Witcher series, and the BIGGEST source of their revenue. I would love to see Gaben bans Witcher series from Steam and let's see how GOG puts up with that.
Steam sells Steam games.
No
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Gonchi: I'm curious about Nuuvem. They had the Witcher games discounted deeply during their recent sale with GOG keys.
I saw how ridiculously discounted the game was and that just didn't sit right. Funny how the sale of said keys became invalid soon after :3
Keys are legal but only if you get them from authorized sellers (or via bundles).Every thing else is either grey or not supposed to happen.
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zeroxxx: This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen (tweet).

Steam clearly is selling their Witcher series, and the BIGGEST source of their revenue. I would love to see Gaben bans Witcher series from Steam and let's see how GOG puts up with that.
Do you have by any chance a source for the "Steam is biggest source of revenue for Witcher" claim? Maybe you are forgetting consoles or retail? It also may have changed with Witcher 3. My impression was that indeed many people buy Witcher 3 directly through GOG.com.
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Niggles: Keys are legal but only if you get them from authorized sellers (or via bundles).Every thing else is either grey or not supposed to happen.
Then the difficulty is to find out who is authorized and who not. Is for example dlgamer or gamesrocket authorized? After all they sell Witcher 3 currently 40% cheaper than GOG.
Post edited July 20, 2015 by Trilarion
The real question is: Is it legal to block the sale of such things? Right of First Sale should protect it.
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MarioFanaticXV: The real question is: Is it legal to block the sale of such things? Right of First Sale should protect it.
Might not be legal. But I also think gog does not block such codes. They only remove fraud codes bought with stolen credit cards.
Well I'll just save up the friggin money to buy the witcher on GOG.com and to buy the DLC also from GOG.com that will cost me $125.99

So therefore I will NOT be Fucking around at all with stupid Key Sites

But the thing is Will I still get all the Free DLC?
Post edited July 20, 2015 by fr33kSh0w2012