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god of war is not a good game. the last good one was part 3 on ps3.
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.Ra: god of war is not a good game. the last good one was part 3 on ps3.
To you.
I was going to throw this out there earlier but it seems we had plenty to talk about but how do you feel about the prices of some games that are finally released DRM-free so many years later?

A game that was released 5 or 6 years ago for $49.99 then should be $49.99 when finally released on GOG 5 or 6 years later?

I always found that a lot of games should have a lower selling cost if the game has been out for numerous years. I'm not saying that the price should be next to nothing and I understand GOG has to make money on the game and so does the game company but if I'm paying the same price for the game now for when it came out 5 or 6 years ago. It makes me want to wait even more.
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Outsiders: I was going to throw this out there earlier but it seems we had plenty to talk about but how do you feel about the prices of some games that are finally released DRM-free so many years later?

A game that was released 5 or 6 years ago for $49.99 then should be $49.99 when finally released on GOG 5 or 6 years later?

I always found that a lot of games should have a lower selling cost if the game has been out for numerous years. I'm not saying that the price should be next to nothing and I understand GOG has to make money on the game and so does the game company but if I'm paying the same price for the game now for when it came out 5 or 6 years ago. It makes me want to wait even more.
Eh for digital this is tricky as digital sale prices rarely change so for me its fine to change the same so long as other storefronts that are digital charges the same price.. though if a game goes on sale regularly at a specific price then that sales price should be the actual regular none sales price.. So digital price the same is fine but if its a game that has dropped in regular none sales price.. then that current normal pricing needs to be its price
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Outsiders: I was going to throw this out there earlier but it seems we had plenty to talk about but how do you feel about the prices of some games that are finally released DRM-free so many years later?

A game that was released 5 or 6 years ago for $49.99 then should be $49.99 when finally released on GOG 5 or 6 years later?

I always found that a lot of games should have a lower selling cost if the game has been out for numerous years. I'm not saying that the price should be next to nothing and I understand GOG has to make money on the game and so does the game company but if I'm paying the same price for the game now for when it came out 5 or 6 years ago. It makes me want to wait even more.
I think the GOG base price should be the same base price as on Steam, EGS, Origin, uPlay, etc. Thankfully GOG is usually able to get a nice deep sale discount comparable to other stores' deepest discounts (like 75-85% off if the game is old enough).
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Outsiders: I was going to throw this out there earlier but it seems we had plenty to talk about but how do you feel about the prices of some games that are finally released DRM-free so many years later?

A game that was released 5 or 6 years ago for $49.99 then should be $49.99 when finally released on GOG 5 or 6 years later?

I always found that a lot of games should have a lower selling cost if the game has been out for numerous years. I'm not saying that the price should be next to nothing and I understand GOG has to make money on the game and so does the game company but if I'm paying the same price for the game now for when it came out 5 or 6 years ago. It makes me want to wait even more.
On arrival they have come with a pretty good discount, i think thats what most people whom had purchasedthe game elsewhere years earlier would wait for... and is another reason why GOG loses out.

I can't afford to buy games at full price twice, with the library i have now... not a chance.

I'd buy here at full if i want the game, and it's new but... how often does that happen? GOG loses out because of that.

I bought Cyberpunk onsale tho simply because it's still not properly finished... tho i could have waited another 5 years tbh for an even lower sale price if i was so inclined.
Post edited 4 days ago by DetouR6734
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.Ra: god of war is not a good game. the last good one was part 3 on ps3.
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Mafwek: To you.
I do think there is a point to be made. Dad of War isnt a bad game but its not revolutionary like the original trilogy. Losing jump and the fact that the biggest enemy is the camera are big cons with Dad of War. Also the fact that early game is far harder than late game with the point after the bridge being one of the biggest challenges on GMGOW difficulty (not including the secret bosses).
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Days Gone is already DRM-free on Epic so the devs don’t need to do anything new if they were to release it on GOG DRM-free.
https://in.ign.com/days-gone/159155/news/days-gone-pc-data-collection-policy-is-a-privacy-nightmare

I wouldn't want such a title here. Maybe it's not here because of that issue.
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kai2: I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.

It would allow GOG to increase it's catalog without being restricted, and GOG'ers will eventually get what they want eitherway when the 5 years are up, the game gets a DRM-Free update... obviously the Devs/Publisher would have to agree to it, but it would make GOG more palletable.

Obviously this would have to be made quite clear before purchase.
I know this is just conjecture but if that is the case, why not just wait the 2 to 5 years until the game becomes DRM-free and then release it on GOG instead?

This isnt unheard of as many AAA games have become DRM-free after a couple of years, notable examples including Nier Automata, Yakuza zero and kiwami, and Sonic Mania iirc.

Noting that these games are now DRM-free and making them available on GOG would get some new eyes on an old game and make some additional sales as people may want a DRM-free version of their favorite game. Since most sales are made during the first couple of weeks or months, those extra sales from a "DRM-free" version several years later would just be additional sales that wouldnt have been made imo. People dont come to GOG for the latest AAA games since they will definitely not be DRM-free. Users go to steam or Epic if they want the latest games. GOG users are most likely willing to wait a couple of years if that good AAA game comes out DRM-free.

Also agree its not a huge loss if we dont get access to multiplayer because of DRM/server shut down. Not a fan of multiplayer myself and most games just tack on multiplayer because everyone does it and its expected, not because it gives a good or even unique gaming experience. Tomb Raider's multiplayer was dead within months of its release and Im glad GOG released it with multiplayer and its related trophies removed.

The fact that GOG still doesnt get these now DRM-free games even though they are old and likely do not generate additional sales its the greater worry imo. Selling Nier or Yakuza would definitely attract sales on these games that likely dont generate new sales anymore on steam since users are looking to the next shiny AAA game.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: The fact that GOG still doesnt get these now DRM-free games even though they are old and likely do not generate additional sales its the greater worry imo.
I think you're on to an issue. It's worth pointing this out I think, but there's probably not much we can do about it.
Post edited 4 days ago by tfishell
Here's my plan to become filthy rich:

1. Manufacture heaps of whips and electric self-whipping apparatus.
2, Sell it to GOG forum users directly, without any middlemen.
3. ???
4. ???
5. PROFIT!


On-topic: No I wasn't expecting Gods of War to be released on GOG, and I didn't realize anyone even hoped for it.

Keep your expectations low, that way you can be surprised only positively.
Post edited 4 days ago by timppu
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nightcraw1er.488: Anyways, Sony probably have CDPR (and gog) high on their Xmas card list after the giant turd of cyberjunk.
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tfishell: I wouldn't be surprised if this was true, Sony not wanting to deal with CDP after the apparent disaster of CP2077 on consoles.
Also, it’s worth noting that you can already buy games on epic direct from galaxy, so for the vast majority of people who use galaxy and don’t care about drm/client/online gating/online only etc. the game is already available for them. Why would Sony create another version with galaxy for a smaller return? Same goes for any game on epic now.
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kai2: I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.

It would allow GOG to increase it's catalog without being restricted, and GOG'ers will eventually get what they want eitherway when the 5 years are up, the game gets a DRM-Free update... obviously the Devs/Publisher would have to agree to it, but it would make GOG more palletable.

Obviously this would have to be made quite clear before purchase.
The most important part here, if GOG did this then there would be no point, even for the most ardent fan of GOG to buy anything here. GOG is more expensive, less functional, less up to date, has a tiny catalog when compared to steam, and a lot of titles on steam are drm free with the rest being made drm free with a hacked exe. So it’s getting harder and harder to find any reason to buy here already, and now you are suggesting the platform exclude drm people even further?? That’s just madness and would close the store almost immediately. Not to mention devs don’t even keep their contracts nowadays, unless the contracts allow for missing update parity etc.
All you are saying here is the new wave of hipster “I want steam, but not called steam” lot would have exactly the same steam experience here at the expense of those who want something different from a store.
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timppu: …snip

On-topic: No I wasn't expecting Gods of War to be released on GOG, and I didn't realize anyone even hoped for it.

Keep your expectations low, that way you can be surprised only positively.
I always keep my expectations low, I am still always surprised negatively.
Post edited 4 days ago by nightcraw1er.488
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Nah they are probably working on getting Pleasure Party here.
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tfishell: I wouldn't be surprised if this was true, Sony not wanting to deal with CDP after the apparent disaster of CP2077 on consoles.
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nightcraw1er.488: Also, it’s worth noting that you can already buy games on epic direct from galaxy, so for the vast majority of people who use galaxy and don’t care about drm/client/online gating/online only etc. the game is already available for them. Why would Sony create another version with galaxy for a smaller return? Same goes for any game on epic now.
Couldn't the same thing be said about Horizon Zero Dawn? I assume it was available to buy on Epic direct through Galaxy months before the game came here, but GOG obviously wanted it here. (presumably because they make far more money from people purchasing it here than purchasing it on Epic through Galaxy) Also the game wouldn't have been ported for Galaxy on Epic's store right? You can launch the Epic client from Galaxy but don't get Galaxy achievements, multiplayer, etc., right?

In any case this doesn't bother me on the level it bothers you. (I'd prefer not to argue over that however) I think GOG will still fight to get more Sony games here on their own store (for the money), and I assume Sony won't care much because of GOG's small userbase/income (and possibly because of the CP2077 fiasco already mentioned), besides the DRM-free requirement. HZD has seemingly sold quite well here, but dunno if it was "well enough" for Sony's expectations.
I'm surprised people are expecting it to be on GOG, especially at the PC launch. Sony are only selling their former exclusives on PC out of desperation to help keep their exclusive studios alive. Once the number of units sold start dropping dramatically on Epic and Steam, it might arrive here .. or it may not, as with Days Gone,Yakuza and others.

The game itself I have no interest in. I have played some of it and did not like it; mediocre and pointless puzzles with Soulsborne combat that mostly felt like a string of quick-time events, and an uninteresting storyline.

Even if the game did arrive on GOG and I had some degree of interest in it, I would not buy it out of sheer principle, because I know that as soon as the PS5 console starts selling well again, Sony will stop porting to PC. So I don't really feel like supporting that brand and that studio. F 'em. There are other, more PC-friendly publishers and studios I'd rather support with my hard-earned money.