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Outsiders: "It's Friday; you ain't got no Gods of War... and you ain't got nothing to do..."

Man, part of me was hoping to jump onto the GOG website, and BOOM! See an ad for Gods of War! No such luck... Guess I have to try and find something else to do with the rest of the boring day...
God of war is too niche for gog. Anyways, Sony probably have CDPR (and gog) high on their Xmas card list after the giant turd of cyberjunk. Wouldn’t be suprised if they removed some of their games.
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BanditKeith2: Well if I recall right Days gone had very poor sales on PlayStation and PC when game sales matter to count for companies when putting a game on pc atleast that is from what I recall Sony saying .. So that likely has a part in deciding if a drm-free version is worth making while still recent enough for sales that aren't drm-free.. Granted DRMed game I and many other would sooner pirate (though for me I actually don't pirated media that is still easy to get and work on my devices as I would rather not go to the extra effort so I just don't get em )
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Days Gone is already DRM-free on Epic so the devs don’t need to do anything new if they were to release it on GOG DRM-free.

Unless we see Days released, I dont think we are seeing a God of War release in our near future although God is working on a sequel while Days is dead so maybe God could be released here in a couple of years to promote Ragnarok’s PC release. I dont thin God is DRM-free though so if Days hasnt been released, could just be Sony not wanting to release their exclusives on GOG.
Unless it can be played without the epic launcher it is not truly drm free .. Thus is it playable without the Epic launcher? Granted I won't use the Epic game store after the crude surrounding it that Epic caused had tainted the storefront from the onset more or less for me and others
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Outsiders: "It's Friday; you ain't got no Gods of War... and you ain't got nothing to do..."

Man, part of me was hoping to jump onto the GOG website, and BOOM! See an ad for Gods of War! No such luck...
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Breja: I'd love for that to happen. I wouldn't buy it, as I already got it for PS4, but it would still be good to see that my worries about GOG's lack of good releases were wrong. But no... it's porn, porn, more porn and an overpriced bundle of Disney classics that forces you to buy them all even if you only want one.
The internet is for porn. *cue song*
Post edited January 15, 2022 by paladin181
First, I apologize for the typo of Gods, when it should have been God.

Second, I understand a game like God Of War will not be on GOG for a while or even at all. This has happened with other games that are new or have been released within the last few years and I believe it's because the games have DRM. I never cared for DRM because I feel it's just a way of renting a game and not owning the game. When I used to go to a store and purchase games from the shelves. I would get a copy of the game and serial number to activate it. I would own it and it would be mine. Now, it feels as if I'm giving a company money to just play the game but it's not mine. I also don't feel the cost of some DRM games justifies this at all.

But the question that does come to mind is would you purchase newly released games from GOG if they had their own version of DRM? Maybe a redeem code that was assigned to your account and only your account.

Just an idea... Like I said, I'm bored today.
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nightcraw1er.488: Anyways, Sony probably have CDPR (and gog) high on their Xmas card list after the giant turd of cyberjunk.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was true, Sony not wanting to deal with CDP after the apparent disaster of CP2077 on consoles.
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Outsiders: But the question that does come to mind is would you purchase newly released games from GOG if they had their own version of DRM?
I would stop buying anything from GOG at that point.
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Outsiders: But the question that does come to mind is would you purchase newly released games from GOG if they had their own version of DRM?
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Breja: I would stop buying anything from GOG at that point.
I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
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BanditKeith2: Unless it can be played without the epic launcher it is not truly drm free .. Thus is it playable without the Epic launcher? Granted I won't use the Epic game store after the crude surrounding it that Epic caused had tainted the storefront from the onset more or less for me and others
According to the thread, yes it can be played without the launcher. The only issue is you may need to use a different .exe from the main one.
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Breja: I would stop buying anything from GOG at that point.
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kai2: I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
Agreed.

It would be the quickest way for GOG to destroy itself. GOG's key selling point is selling "DRM-free games" so buyers can own their games, or get as close as possible.

GOG adding their own DRM would just make them Steam 0.5, a worse Steam since steam has a better UI, library of games, and updates to their games. GOG making their own DRM would only alienate their current consumers while not attracting any new consumers to their storefront (people dont go to Steam or Epic because they have DRM).

It also likely won't change the number of games available to be sold at GOG. While adding DRM might make AAA developers more interested in putting their games on GOG, the same issues regarding a smaller userbase and 70:30 split will disincentivize them from choosing GOG over Steam (far bigger customer base) or Epic (possible benefits from exclusivity and Unreal engine discounts, 88:12 split).
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Breja: I would stop buying anything from GOG at that point.
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kai2: I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.

It would allow GOG to increase it's catalog without being restricted, and GOG'ers will eventually get what they want eitherway when the 5 years are up, the game gets a DRM-Free update... obviously the Devs/Publisher would have to agree to it, but it would make GOG more palletable.




Obviously this would have to be made quite clear before purchase.
Post edited January 15, 2022 by DetouR6734
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BanditKeith2: Unless it can be played without the epic launcher it is not truly drm free .. Thus is it playable without the Epic launcher? Granted I won't use the Epic game store after the crude surrounding it that Epic caused had tainted the storefront from the onset more or less for me and others
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: According to the thread, yes it can be played without the launcher. The only issue is you may need to use a different .exe from the main one.
I have my doubts it truly is given how so many on GOG try to peddle ''work arounds'' as making a game truly drm free when the methods to do so is often hidden or require research to do.. Granted this is my jaded side talking as oddly alot of people believe ''Just lacking Denuvo or similar drm means truly drm free even when requiring a launcher or workaround'' Its a odd mindset to have in those cases in my view but its why I doubt any claims of games not being on a known drm-free storefront being truly drm free at this point.. Whatever the gase on the topic of this thread I would love Days Gone and God of war showing up
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kai2: I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.

It would allow GOG to increase it's catalog without being restricted, and GOG'ers will eventually get what they want eitherway when the 5 years are up, the game gets a DRM-Free update... obviously the Devs/Publisher would have to agree to it, but it would make GOG more palletable.

Obviously this would have to be made quite clear before purchase.
This I could work with so long as offline installers get added at the time frame of that set up as while I would hate the drmed factor till then it'd be a great compromise as everyone would get what they'd want
Post edited January 15, 2022 by BanditKeith2
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.
GOG is never in a stable enough financial position whereby it can guarantee that it will continue to exist 5 years into the future. On the contrary: it's always teetering right on the edge of bankruptcy.

And even if GOG were financially stable, then there is no guarantee that devs would hold up their end of the bargain 5 years after they had first started selling a game on GOG.
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kai2: I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.
No.
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kai2: I second Breja on this. I'm only here for DRM-free. Take that away and I have no reason to purchase here.
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.
Sorry but that's a strong "no" from me. I'm more flexible than some people in that I'm not boycotting GOG over No Man's Sky or Absolver, but from what I read about Hitman GOTY, that crossed the line for me and what you're saying would also.

GOG should focus on two things imo: DRM-free single-player games and "old games on new machines" - those are (theoretically) their strengths in the PC games digital distribution market, what they're known for. I think GOG needs to accept that they won't be getting day-1 sales from "AAA" games but they can get the double dippers buying at deep discounts (far from ideal but realistic I think).

Bring the games here DRM-free after 5 years or whenever. I know that probably means gutted features like multiplayer (which devs don't want to port after such a long time), but that doesn't bother me personally. (A problem does seem to be GOG having trouble even getting older "AAA" games here, but imo it's unacceptable to have more Hitman GOTY - or worse - situations.)

Oooor ... GOG could ask the devs to port the multiplayer and Steam features to Galaxy when they're developing the game for Steam, years ahead of time, and (I know this is somewhat silly) GOG could do some sort of "Coming eventually" page for the game, and the game could come in 3-5 years with optional Galaxy features complete (unless the multiplayer servers have been taken down by then) but also DRM-free. Probably highly unrealistic (I assume most "AAA" people don't want to bother with Galaxy porting and GOG in general just because of low sales figures) but a thing.
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: GOG is never in a stable enough financial position whereby it can guarantee that it will continue to exist 5 years into the future. On the contrary: it's always teetering right on the edge of bankruptcy.

And even if GOG were financially stable, then there is no guarantee that devs would hold up their end of the bargain 5 years after they had first started selling a game on GOG.
If it could get a bunch of recent titles on it would be. But if it was a contractual aggreement i don't see why they couldn't, but then i ain't up to snuff on all the legalities of it.

But to me it's better option than GOG just being dropped altogether.






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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.
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tfishell: Sorry but that's a strong "no" from me. I'm more flexible than some people in that I'm not boycotting GOG over No Man's Sky or Absolver, but from what I read about Hitman GOTY, that crossed the line for me and what you're saying would also.

GOG should focus on two things imo: DRM-free single-player games and "old games on new machines" - those are (theoretically) their strengths in the PC games digital distribution market, what they're known for. I think GOG needs to accept that they won't be getting day-1 sales from "AAA" games but they can get the double dippers buying at deep discounts (far from ideal but realistic I think).

Bring the games here DRM-free after 5 years or whenever. I know that probably means gutted features like multiplayer (which devs don't want to port after such a long time), but that doesn't bother me personally. (A problem does seem to be GOG having trouble even getting older "AAA" games here, but imo it's unacceptable to have more Hitman GOTY - or worse - situations.)

Oooor ... GOG could ask the devs to port the multiplayer and Steam features to Galaxy when they're developing the game for Steam, years ahead of time, and (I know this is somewhat silly) GOG could do some sort of "Coming eventually" page for the game, and the game could come in 3-5 years with optional Galaxy features complete (unless the multiplayer servers have been taken down by then) but also DRM-free. Probably highly unrealistic (I assume most "AAA" people don't want to bother with Galaxy porting and GOG in general just because of low sales figures) but a thing.
I ain't fussed for multiplayer half the time, the fact that the recent Tomb Raider didn't have it is a blessing.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: According to the thread, yes it can be played without the launcher. The only issue is you may need to use a different .exe from the main one.
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BanditKeith2: I have my doubts it truly is given how so many on GOG try to peddle ''work arounds'' as making a game truly drm free when the methods to do so is often hidden or require research to do.. Granted this is my jaded side talking as oddly alot of people believe ''Just lacking Denuvo or similar drm means truly drm free even when requiring a launcher or workaround'' Its a odd mindset to have in those cases in my view but its why I doubt any claims of games not being on a known drm-free storefront being truly drm free at this point.. Whatever the gase on the topic of this thread I would love Days Gone and God of war showing up
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DetouR6734: Honestly, i think something both sides should accept is if GOG accepted a policy of games with DRM, that become DRM-Free with an update after say 5 years.

It would allow GOG to increase it's catalog without being restricted, and GOG'ers will eventually get what they want eitherway when the 5 years are up, the game gets a DRM-Free update... obviously the Devs/Publisher would have to agree to it, but it would make GOG more palletable.

Obviously this would have to be made quite clear before purchase.
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BanditKeith2: This I could work with so long as offline installers get added at the time frame of that set up as while I would hate the drmed factor till then it'd be a great compromise as everyone would get what they'd want
Yeah i'm an advocate of DRM-Free gaming, thus why my library here is larger than that of Steam... but i'm also a realist, and i doubt GOG will be around for another 10 years if it remains a deadweight and with the way their curation is going..

The fact is not many dev/publisher is gonna place their brand spanking new AAA title here DRM-Free when you still get people thinking you can hand the games out like candy because they have some botched idea of what "DRM-free" is..
Post edited January 15, 2022 by DetouR6734