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OK, I see what Dedo is saying. He also thinks I didn't unvote?

@gogtrial, I wondered if his list would have changed, if he was trying to curry flavor with others, etc.

In case ZFR saw my unvote as an unvote--which I meant it to be:

@ZFR VOTE SCENE
Also would I have made a list suspecting every player in the game if I was Scum? Would I have voted for more players than any other play (pretty sure this is the case). And doing this after Mafia team are down a player? With only 2 town losses?
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gogtrial34987: Still, thanks for that insight, and particularly for how strong your townread of Bookwyrm is!
I'm going to die tonight, aren't I?

My life for Aiur! ....I mean Ner'zhul!
Alright. I still think Scene is a bad lunch.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_59_previously_on_mafia/post310

There's an example about what I was talking about before - scene's thinking he's got blotunga because he used a different wording to what the webpage says ->

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_59_previously_on_mafia/post310

Huh.




Which thinking about it is perhaps a little alarming because I'd have maybe checked it against MY OWN role pm first...

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supplementscene: ....
Well I went to L2 and back to L3, do I claim now? Because I imagine Blotunga and Trent will hop back on my wagon quite soon and them I can be hammered at any time. I'm Squidge the Primape, a Vanilla Townie, so no great loss to the Town cause
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So... huh.

I saw it as town-scene because it looked like scene had noticed the discrepancy between the role blotunga claimed and the role as he had it, and seemed excited to have caught a slip (despite the sample-role and the fact that the roles appear on the mafia wiki)

But now I think it's possible scene went to the mafia wiki to fake his own vanilla claim, and noticed that blotunga's was different to his own, and so suspected him to be the serial killer.

He does go on to say:


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supplementscene: .........
Anyway if Blotunga isn't Town I think it's more likely he's the SK
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Ugh.

Okay I have a little hope then that scene will turn up mafia.

I say that but I don't feel very hopeful.

Feeling like I'm wrong about flub and trent. Starting to think it's Bookwyrm...


PRE POST EDIT:

Just after I write that I refresh and see this:

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gogtrial34987: Still, thanks for that insight, and particularly for how strong your townread of Bookwyrm is!
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Bookwyrm627: I'm going to die tonight, aren't I?

My life for Aiur! ....I mean Ner'zhul!
Which...
is...

If he's mafia he says it because he wants people to think he thinks he's going to be targetted my mafia.

If he's now, then he thinks he's going to be targetted b mafia... would he write this?


Ugh. No. I don't think we should lunch supplementscene. I think it is BAD LUNCH.

unvote microfish
vote bookwyrm627



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Bookvvyrm628: myehmyehmyeh it's too late in the Day to start a new wagon there's no time to discuss any new business vote for scene or stop wasting everyone's time myehmyehmyeh
quiet you! you're not even playing.
What. What is Joe up to now?

Sorry guys. A little tired from an earlier adventure in the heat of the sun and currently waiting for my food.

I don't really think much more can be said about supplementscene. If I am right, the game ends in 8 hours. I could probably look in a couple hours later if the hammer doesn't fall.
Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

scene 4 - Microfish, Pooka, Bookwyrm, gogtrial
flub 1 - trent
trent 1 - scene
Bookwyrm 1 - Joe

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: flub, dedo

9 players. Takes 5 to lynch.
scene is closest at L-1
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flubbucket: poke
Yo Flub, we could use your vote on this wagon.

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trentonlf: So welcome to the mind of trentonlf, where the gears are turning backwards most of the time and confusion reigns supreme.
Joe isn't going to vote Scene, Scene isn't going to vote Scene, and Dedo may be AFK past the deadline.

Is there any chance of you joining this wagon?
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dedoporno: @Micro, I see you didn't actually unvote. You seem to be waiting for something else to happen so I won't place my vote now but be aware that it's not impossible for me to miss the deadline.
As Joe and trent seem unwilling to vote scene, I really hope you'll still look in before deadline!

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JoeSapphire: Ugh. No. I don't think we should lunch supplementscene. I think it is BAD LUNCH.
Do you really prefer no lynch?
Even if scene is town, would the certainty thereof be worse than the mislynch?
I don't see Bookwyrm taking off today. Why aren't you making a push for an alternative wagon that has at least some chance of being a viable alternative? If your goal with the vote isn't to get someone other than scene lynched, then what is your goal?

FWIW, the question on if you would or wouldn't publicly state that you expect to be NKed, imho has a lot to do with what you want mafia to think about the likelihood of you having a PR. I can easily see Wookwyrm writing what he wrote from a town perspective.
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JoeSapphire: If he's mafia he says it because he wants people to think he thinks he's going to be targetted my mafia.
A freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean you're mafia. Mother. Whatever.

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PookaMustard: What. What is Joe up to now?
Distracting from Scene's lynch.
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gogtrial34987: Do you really prefer no lynch?
Even if scene is town, would the certainty thereof be worse than the mislynch?
I'm here. I can be around till the end of day I think. If things are looking bad I should lynch scene so that you will all tear your eyes away from him and pay some attention elsewhere.

So if that's the case why don't I do it now? Maybe I will.

I don't think I've ever actually 'dropped the hammer' before in a mafia game - (another reason why the End Of Day 2 got me unreasonably grumpy)
Willing to go:

Trent - I don't think he's scumhunting and his play has changer from Day 1 to 2/3. I think he's drawn Scum this game. Flub expressed possibly voting Trent so I leave my vote on Trent for now and see if anyone is willing to step on this wagon.

Microfish - his unvote, revote taking a massive 90 minutes off my wagon looked LAMIST. Why do it? He also asked for my Scumlist, something I already provided. Why?

Joe - seems less scummy after the last post, as he's actually working parts of the game out more so now. I doubt this gets much support anyway.
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PookaMustard: What. What is Joe up to now?
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Bookwyrm627: Distracting from Scene's lynch.
What's your reaction going to be when he flips town?

You already did "it's his own fault I did the right thing everybody continue to trust me", so maybe you could go different with this one.

I think you could pull of a classic "Whu- whu- whhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttt????" very well, and it would be entertaining.

Or maybe "Aw MAN I was SO. SURE about THAT one!" would be well received.
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flubbucket: poke
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Bookwyrm627: Yo Flub, we could use your vote on this wagon.
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Vote: supplementscene

Now off to bed.....I'm pulling a double tonight.
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JoeSapphire: If he's mafia he says it because he wants people to think he thinks he's going to be targetted my mafia.

unvote microfish
vote bookwyrm627
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Did you read that as OTT LAMIST?

I mean if one of 3 players don't get NK'ed I'd start to wonder if they're Town. Because I know who I'd be going for as Mafia and it wouldn't be vocal players

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PookaMustard: If I am right, the game ends in 8 hours.
Game won't end but it's interesting you assume there's 1 Scum player left.
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gogtrial34987: FWIW, the question on if you would or wouldn't publicly state that you expect to be NKed, imho has a lot to do with what you want mafia to think about the likelihood of you having a PR. I can easily see Wookwyrm writing what he wrote from a town perspective.
Hoping to achieve what? Without knowing who the mafia are how can you begin to anticipate how they're going to take it? Doesn't The Vincini Effect neutralise any- and flub just voted...