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dedoporno: .................
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flubbucket: This really makes the most sense. I'll not bow to pressure.

Unvote: JoeSapphire

Vote: GameRager
This is odd coming so quickly after Pooka's vote.


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PookaMustard: Suddenly GameRager is back at L-2 again...I swear, I can't wrap my head around what's going on at times...
You seem upset a fellow town isn't as close to lynch anymore.....care to explain why?

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flubbucket: I really doubt you're scared.
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dedoporno: You gave me pause. And scene's question actually makes sense.

I do believe I'm made good points about GR but you really did a whole lot of vote-hopping all of a sudden just to get back to square one in the end.

I'm not sure what to make of that.
He could be scum(likely is, imo) trying to make himself look more town by jumping off my wagon only to go back on it a bit later on.
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GameRager: As for my actions: I checked into finding my past games but as others said the forum search is trash and I don't remember the games I played in(but I do know how I played in general and that I was town doctor in one). Do I contact a mafia admin user for such info? Is that allowed while playing a current mafia game?
Check this link for all of the previous mafia games on this forum.
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GameRager: As for my actions: I checked into finding my past games but as others said the forum search is trash and I don't remember the games I played in(but I do know how I played in general and that I was town doctor in one). Do I contact a mafia admin user for such info? Is that allowed while playing a current mafia game?
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Microfish_1: Check this link for all of the previous mafia games on this forum.
Thanks...I will look into the list(have to go shopping) and will post my old games links in an hour or so(maybe ab it more than that).
GameRager was

Mafia in #1
VT in #7
VT in #12

also, a neutral won #38, which is interesting to me.
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GameRager: As for my actions: I checked into finding my past games but as others said the forum search is trash and I don't remember the games I played in(but I do know how I played in general and that I was town doctor in one). Do I contact a mafia admin user for such info? Is that allowed while playing a current mafia game?
If you're asking an admin for what game you played in before, I don't think that's not allowed. You should ask The GOGfather although I don't know if he keeps track of who played in what of the 59 games that were hosted.

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GameRager: 2. The funny thing is others here have stated it would be ok to lynch fellow town for various reasons INCLUDING to read thier wagons the next "day", yet when I use it as a tactic it's suddenly more suspect?
You mean bookwyrm? Yes, he embraces mislynches, but, he didn't vote Joe because scene who he believes is scummy thinks Joe is bad. I believe he'd just go straight for voting scene, then the rest applies about the lynched townies bit and reading wagons. That is the major difference here.

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GameRager: Why vote for me this late into the "day" when others have dropped off the wagon? Why didn't you do it back when I was very close to lynch? Just curious.
I didn't want to put you at L-1 and get you lynched earlier by opportunistic scum or careless townies. Now that the Day is ending, it's about time I settled on a vote.

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GameRager: You seem upset a fellow town isn't as close to lynch anymore.....care to explain why?
Not the idea. Before I voted you, you only had two votes as other wagons picked up. When I voted you, suddenly comes flub out of the woodwork and votes you as well. I'm not upset. To put it in better words, I think few had made up their mind about who they're going after and I just have no idea what's going on.
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Microfish_1: GameRager was

Mafia in #1
VT in #7
VT in #12

also, a neutral won #38, which is interesting to me.
Hmm....I remember quite vividly that I was town doctor in another game and people thought I was scum and had me lynched.....maybe it's another game.....gotta check.


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GameRager: As for my actions: I checked into finding my past games but as others said the forum search is trash and I don't remember the games I played in(but I do know how I played in general and that I was town doctor in one). Do I contact a mafia admin user for such info? Is that allowed while playing a current mafia game?
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PookaMustard: If you're asking an admin for what game you played in before, I don't think that's not allowed. You should ask The GOGfather although I don't know if he keeps track of who played in what of the 59 games that were hosted.

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GameRager: 2. The funny thing is others here have stated it would be ok to lynch fellow town for various reasons INCLUDING to read thier wagons the next "day", yet when I use it as a tactic it's suddenly more suspect?
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PookaMustard: You mean bookwyrm? Yes, he embraces mislynches, but, he didn't vote Joe because scene who he believes is scummy thinks Joe is bad. I believe he'd just go straight for voting scene, then the rest applies about the lynched townies bit and reading wagons. That is the major difference here.

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GameRager: Why vote for me this late into the "day" when others have dropped off the wagon? Why didn't you do it back when I was very close to lynch? Just curious.
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PookaMustard: I didn't want to put you at L-1 and get you lynched earlier by opportunistic scum or careless townies. Now that the Day is ending, it's about time I settled on a vote.

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GameRager: You seem upset a fellow town isn't as close to lynch anymore.....care to explain why?
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PookaMustard: Not the idea. Before I voted you, you only had two votes as other wagons picked up. When I voted you, suddenly comes flub out of the woodwork and votes you as well. I'm not upset. To put it in better words, I think few had made up their mind about who they're going after and I just have no idea what's going on.
1. Thanks for the info but Micro had it covered. :0


2. Good points...I still find it a bit odd, though.

3. Fair enough

4. I don't have much of a handle on much either....I am hoping to get better as I go along(If I don't get lynched anyways), though. :)
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dedoporno: @flub, would you lynch anyone other than GR? I'm not proposing an alternative but asking for your conviction on this.
Not "anyone."
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Bookwyrm627: ...........

I'm currently amusing myself by imagining you as a 15 year old girl pretending to be some wildly drunk, cranky old dude.

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Nice fetish.

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GameRager: ..............

Also, why did you choose JoeSapphire so readily in Post 637?

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His non-sequitur post.
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flubbucket: Not "anyone."
Please define. Name namez.

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GameRager: As for my actions: I checked into finding my past games but as others said the forum search is trash and I don't remember the games I played in(but I do know how I played in general and that I was town doctor in one). Do I contact a mafia admin user for such info? Is that allowed while playing a current mafia game?
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PookaMustard: If you're asking an admin for what game you played in before, I don't think that's not allowed. You should ask The GOGfather although I don't know if he keeps track of who played in what of the 59 games that were hosted.
Each game here on GOG's official list of Mafia etc games (see below) (except one of them, maybe game 2?) has, in some form or another, a list of all the participants (and usually their roles) within the first 3 posts; I merely had to open 60+ tabs to find out.
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GameRager: 2. The funny thing is others here have stated it would be ok to lynch fellow town for various reasons INCLUDING to read thier wagons the next "day", yet when I use it as a tactic it's suddenly more suspect?
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PookaMustard: You mean bookwyrm? Yes, he embraces mislynches, but, he didn't vote Joe because scene who he believes is scummy thinks Joe is bad. I believe he'd just go straight for voting scene, then the rest applies about the lynched townies bit and reading wagons. That is the major difference here.

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GameRager: Why vote for me this late into the "day" when others have dropped off the wagon? Why didn't you do it back when I was very close to lynch? Just curious.
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PookaMustard: I didn't want to put you at L-1 and get you lynched earlier by opportunistic scum or careless townies. Now that the Day is ending, it's about time I settled on a vote.
So, have you perma-settled on one for now?

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GameRager: You seem upset a fellow town isn't as close to lynch anymore.....care to explain why?
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PookaMustard: Not the idea. Before I voted you, you only had two votes as other wagons picked up. When I voted you, suddenly comes flub out of the woodwork and votes you as well. I'm not upset. To put it in better words, I think few had made up their mind about who they're going after and I just have no idea what's going on.
He had voted GR, IIRC, backed out, and then jumped back in again.

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Microfish_1: GameRager was

Mafia in #1
VT in #7
VT in #12
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GameRager: Hmm....I remember quite vividly that I was town doctor in another game and people thought I was scum and had me lynched.....maybe it's another game.....gotta check.
I needn't tell you, do I, that claiming "I've been town doc and mislynched in a previous game on this forum", and the proof failing to show on the official list of GOG mafia games, looks bad. Very, very bad.

If you can find it in a hurry, I suggest you do so. Otherwise, people (myself included) will assume you are lying and vote you. The above is fairly damning circumstantial evidence, irregardless of whether you are telling the truth or not.

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GameRager: I am "worried" mainly because I might be in a position to be very helpful to town and want to be able to keep being so so I worry about being lynched and town losing that advantage.

Go look at my previous games when you have a chance. I skimmed/played the same way as I am now, and got killed off....then I turned out to be town doctor(iirc) and town lost a bit of an advantage.
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GameRager: ... I am pretty sure both games were also town and in one I was definitely a doctor. In both I played about the same way(though I added flavor iirc to one game in how I replied/etc).
You did add flavor to one vote that I can find, but maybe I messed one. And in that case, you were VM.
Why is Trent so concerned and convinced that Gamerager is a misslynch?

Makes me wonder if Trent and Gamerager are the remaining Scum.

Although game is very unlikely to be solved on Day 2
After giving it some thought I haven't come to any better idea on what to do. I think Trent is giving scum too much credit saying we are just 3 mislynches and 3 successful night kills away from losing. I believe that the scum are crippled enough and at this point that we just need to lean harder and they will eventually fall down anyway.

I'll stick to my original read as it made the most sense to me.

vote GameRager
I didn't refresh before posting.

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supplementscene: Although game is very unlikely to be solved on Day 2
It's possible but so what? The point is to solve the game eventually. At worst we have 3 shots to get this right and with some luck during the night we might have more or need fewer to seal it. This may sound a bit cynical but players can be considered as resources that can be invested and spent in order to achieve victory. In the end both dead and alive players share the win.
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JoeSapphire: Then why do you say this?

vvv

^^^

Do you think we're definitely NOT both town? What do you think?
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flubbucket: I believe this qualifies as non-sequitur
Well why does the thought of town attempting to make sense of the wreckage of your lynch wagon amuse you if you think it's as simple as "one-or-more of the two that created the wagon are mafia?



I've been thinking about it while I've been away from the computer and flub's aggressive defenses and his and SirP's start-of-day-one banter I think does add up to scum flub.


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SirPrimalform: How could I vote for anyone other than the one rude enough to leave their blue stone lying around for me to trip over...

That's right:

VOTE FLUBBUCKET!
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SirPrimalform: How could I vote for anyone other than the one rude enough to leave their blue stone lying around for me to trip over...

That's right:

VOTE FLUBBUCKET!
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flubbucket: That's no stone.

And for the record, bler144 is a liar and I never did what he may insinuate I did. Lying smurf bastard

[call me]
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flubbucket: That's no stone.

And for the record, bler144 is a liar and I never did what he may insinuate I did. Lying smurf bastard

[call me]
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SirPrimalform: So what you're saying... is that it's actually one of bler's testicles?
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SirPrimalform: .................
Hah, by that definition of town everyone in any mafia game ever is town.
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flubbucket: Agreed.

I'm town.
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SirPrimalform: ..........

so is this LAMIST?

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flubbucket: I think it's Les Mis....something about the French and sandwiches.
^ Posts of relevance from early day 1. These are Flub's second, third and fourth post of the game, all direct responses to SirP and nothing else.

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flubbucket: ...[snip]
How would keeping GameRager alive benefit town?? If he's lying then he's killing. If he's truthing, then he's going to be killed ...or NOT and used as WIFOM.

As for lynching me, I would make a better Night Kill.
^ bad logic and an interesting challenge.

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flubbucket: I really wish the wagon on me would get some traction so I could point and laugh as you try to make some sense of the wreckage.
Bluster? As I said, I don't see why he should foresee difficulty in analysing the wreckage if he thinks Trent and/or Joe is mafia.

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flubbucket: Okay.

I'm going on record that GameRager is scum. I will be mocking with pelvic thrusts when I'm proven right.

Unvote: GameRager
Confident challenge. perhaps Not Altogether Innapropriate for flub...


SO: Flub pings me, but I'm not completely satisfied (HIYOOOO)

Reading flub's other posts, he does read like he genuinely convinced he's found a scum in GameRager.

SO...

I don't know. Perhaps I've convinced myself out of it. Flub talking only to SirP at the opening of the game is compelling, but maybe it's a coincidence.

There was a bit of vote hopping just now, but I've hopped votes before... it can be a fun game.


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JoeSapphire: Who do you guys reckon the mafias are?

I'm gonna say... Microfish, Carr and SirPrimalform.
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gogtrial34987: So, trent is Joe, and Joe is Microfish, eh? Have I cracked the code?
HEY LOOK AT THAT!!

Microfish don't let me down now...


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JoeSapphire: Nope, no scumbuddies for Joe!
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gogtrial34987: Poor, poor Joe, left all alone without a scumbuddy at the start of D2! It's a good thing that you still have your little brother who understands your plight!
Little bro. You set out to do a read on me but then you made it all about dedoporno?? How is that supposed to make me feel?


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JoeSapphire: Even if GameRager's lying, we'll be able to deal with that better in the future than we can now.
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Bookwyrm627: How?
Seeing who he blocks at nights, seeing if his actions are counterclaimed, seeing if the numbers add up once we have a better idea of what roles are in play.

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flubbucket: It's simple.

Take the cap off the bottle, throw it away and don't stop until it's all gone.
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Bookwyrm627: You know that old adage about "I'm not a 15 year old girl, but I play one on the internet"?

I'm currently amusing myself by imagining you as a 15 year old girl pretending to be some wildly drunk, cranky old dude.
:000000000000000!!!! THE SENSE!!!!!!


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JoeSapphire: Looked at the beginning of day one. SirP's first vote of the game is Flubbucket, and flub and he have some banter.

Would they have the nerve to do that? Absolutely.

Would they actually do it? I'd like to believe so but I'm struggling.

unvote flubbucket

A bold statement ... for such uncertain logic... How much can be read into the people that didn't interact with SirP?
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Microfish_1: I agree with what I've snipped.
This is 1/2 of the "Unbeatable duo" or some such from last game; he certainly has guts to do it, and I think his read on flub also having guts enough is correct.
NO!! I am unbeatable duo half! SirP is just some nobody who hates fun!

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How bad would NO-LUNCH be for town right now?

(It's saturday, so I could call it NO-LYNCH, I suppose...)

I was thinking of suggesting it before I left work yesterday, but it was just after gogtrial's vote on me, and I didn't think it would be well received in that light.

As I say, GameRager has claimed, as we get more information we'll learn more about the claim. If he's scum he's going to have the opportunity to make bad block choices, or be unable to block and forced to lie about it. If he's town he's going to have the opportunity to make satisfying block choices, and even block a kill.

His play has picked up a lot of attention, but that's what I'd expect from GameRager.

I don't think there's anyone else who we could make a decent case over that would satisfy enough people in the time.

and Night One gave us a good advantage (so we can afford to sit around scratching our butts as that advantage slowly slips away... ;p)


Alright, I have to go. I've got a short trip, but I think I'll be back before the deadline.


vote flubbucket

heck, why not?
Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

GameRager 4 - Bookwyrm, Pooka, flub, dedo
scene 2 - Micro, GameRager
flub 2 - trent, JoeSapphire
JoeSapphire 1 - scene
dedo 1 - gogtrial

Everyone else - 0
Not voting:

10 players left. It takes 6 to lynch.
GameRager is closest at L-2.
Post edited June 22, 2019 by ZFR
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ZFR: Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

GameRager 4 - Bookwyrm, Pooka, flub, dedo
scene 2 - Micro, GameRager
flub 2 - trent, JoeSapphire
JoeSapphire 1 - scene
dedo 1 - gogtrial

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: JoeSapphire

10 players left. It takes 6 to lynch.
GameRager is closest at L-2.
Joe is voting and not voting at the same time, didn’t realize he had a twin ;-)