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JaqFrost: I feel like we're only a handful of people who care about this... it's always the same handful voicing concern in the pertinent threads and that maybe GOG would like us to actually get into those lifeboats and be the hell off their cruise ship. We're ruining the quiet enjoyment of the forums -- they probably don't want newbies to be faced with posts about how customers feel willfully misled by the management, but we're not numerous enough for them to really care beyond swatting at the gnat.
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IAmSinistar: You may be correct. I just posted something which touches on this in another thread. Clearly we are a small but vocal cadre of people who are passionate about GOG. The majority of their users are likely basic purchasers, many of whom are unaware the forums even exist. I don't doubt that they'd be willing to take the miniscule financial hit of losing us, if it would make their lives easier. Even if that would also eviscerate the forums for a time.
You know how the saying goes: "Revolution devours its own children". And so gog's own fair pricing, non regional locking and other former principles revolution is eating them and they are turning in to another generic online store.
Post edited April 07, 2015 by Matruchus
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Cavalary: Or like that. What I posted above put these two together.
Yes. Thank you.
I have an annoying tendency of posting things piecemeal.
And an annoying tendency of missing whole pages of posts, including your previous one.
Sorry.
Post edited April 07, 2015 by mrkgnao
I dont know why gog keeps doing stuff that their customers dont want , this place will soon be a cesspool of games like steam , where no new release is going to create the joy it used to bring like before. There was a reason why good old games had a meaning you could expect proper good classics everything was simple , i guess that era is gone i am sure most people even already forgot the classic lucasarts games that were released recently it must have gotten drowned with constant new releases thanks to giving up on the original ideals , imagine the impact it would have when gog was Good old games.
Post edited April 07, 2015 by liquidsnakehpks
To keep it short. All this stuff just let to one result. I don't trust gog anymore.
I am still here because games are drm-free for the moment, and still at the forums because of the people here. But there is no longer trust for gog do to the things right and every announcement I see is like "Oh no, what did they break this time".
So what happened is that russian people get cheaper games, but the flat pricing for a lot of games is still there for Euro and USD? I looked at Age of Wonders 1 and it's the same as one of the examples you showed.
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JaqFrost: I feel like we're only a handful of people who care about this... it's always the same handful voicing concern in the pertinent threads and that maybe GOG would like us to actually get into those lifeboats and be the hell off their cruise ship. We're ruining the quiet enjoyment of the forums -- they probably don't want newbies to be faced with posts about how customers feel willfully misled by the management, but we're not numerous enough for them to really care beyond swatting at the gnat.
I doubt we're even perceived as a tiny bit of annoyance given that we voice our concerns in here, and as IAmSinistar said, many of their users don't follow or even know the forum exist.

It would be a completely different ballgame if we took to their social media platforms, but given the mentality there, I'm sure there would be plenty of knights eager to defend GOG's every single decision and change, and to shut us up.
One can already see that here when we post in announcement and release threads that are a lot more visible. It probably suits GOG just fine that we create this kind of threads and mostly post in here; keeps things nicely contained, and hassle free for them on the rest of the board.
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Ciris: please, do your best not to panic and simply ask ;)
Like we've been "just asking" in the unblundling thread? "Just asking" gives you twenty days of radio silence.
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Cavalary: Or like that. What I posted above put these two together.
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mrkgnao: Yes. Thank you.
I have an annoying tendency of posting things piecemeal.
And an annoying tendency of missing whole pages of posts, including your previous one.
Sorry.
:)) Did that exact same thing with this one. Replied after reading page 5, then noticed where my post ended up and went "woops, wonder if it wasn't already posted on page 6".
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HypersomniacLive: I doubt we're even perceived as a tiny bit of annoyance given that we voice our concerns in here, and as IAmSinistar said, many of their users don't follow or even know the forum exist.

It would be a completely different ballgame if we took to their social media platforms, but given the mentality there, I'm sure there would be plenty of knights eager to defend GOG's every single decision and change, and to shut us up.
One can already see that here when we post in announcement and release threads that are a lot more visible. It probably suits GOG just fine that we create this kind of threads and mostly post in here; keeps things nicely contained, and hassle free for them on the rest of the board.
Yeah. I did post on Fb a few times though, after unliking the page (for the 2nd time) I mean, and it didn't seem to do much. If it'd have gotten a reaction, I assume it'd have been of the sort you mention, yes.
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BadDecissions: Like we've been "just asking" in the unblundling thread? "Just asking" gives you twenty days of radio silence.
She did say "ask", not "ask and you shall receive".

It's like the "We are listening to your feedback" - nowhere do they say that our feedback will be addressed in any manner.



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Cavalary: [...]

Yeah. I did post on Fb a few times though, after unliking the page (for the 2nd time) I mean, and it didn't seem to do much. If it'd have gotten a reaction, I assume it'd have been of the sort you mention, yes.
Sounds like you were a lone voice in the wilderness; I'm sorry to say that that's what GOG counts on.
Actually, us complaining here and in other threads won't change anything, I think that's for sure.
I always thought of it as some sort of reminder, not only reminding GOG.com that there are a few people who are really unhappy with regional pricing (and more), but also reassuring each other that they're not alone.

By now I expect this threads to die with time, until GOG.com has changed so much for the worse, that many of us will have left long ago. The introduction of DRM, or an enforced client after all, could cause something like that.

And we're not talking distant future here, I'm very close to leaving already, only a faint hope and you guys keep me here for now.
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Ciris: However, adding localisations has consequences - for instance, as someone pointed out, having a large German customer base (especially with a German "storefront") meant we had to regionally lock 2 titles that are completely off limits sales-wise there.
I may be wrong, but I believe this is the first time that a blue has publicly admitted the obvious, that the only reason the Commandos titles were regionally banned was in order to allow for a German-language GOG. At least this may disprove the comments of "some conspiracy theorists" that thought that the German government putting pressure on GOG had something to do with it.

I kind of feel bad for the French. The addition of their language was the only one not accompanied with any "good news" that I remember.
Post edited April 07, 2015 by mrkgnao
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Ciris: Just in case you wondering, introducing these price changes won't affect the way gifting works today on GOG.com.
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IAmSinistar: You left off the now-crucial GOG qualifier: For Now.™
Oh, but they didnt' forgot about that, that's the meaning of the word "today" ;)
They know perfectly well that is only a matter of time until large-scale gift-locking and region-blocking will be sore realities here on gog.

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mrkgnao: Games that are regionally priced only in RU/UA/UZ and flat priced everywhere else (at the moment 842 games):
http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=440&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmbaxyzXhDFGH&ord=&flt=prp~1~prn~aubrcadechczrorsgbnoseplcn~&opt=
Hi, care to explain what one have to select as inputs on magog to get that results? Because i tried and didn't succeeded, got tangled in magog inputs ;( you can PM if that somehow derails the topic ... thanks!
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mobutu: Oh, but they didnt' forgot about that, that's the meaning of the word "today" ;)
Ah, quite so! A good lawyer's eye you've got there. :)
In order to affect change in the industry you need to be a fairly large and significant voice. By all accounts in the grand scheme of things, GoG is not. And as others have mentioned, it's probably even a minority of that group that cares so much when it comes to regional pricing. So then it becomes a business decision. A lot of users on this forum want GoG to continue to play the little guy, the underdog who can take down goliath, but being in that role is not business viable when you choose you put yourself on an island and yet still want to be taken seriously when it comes to matters like regional pricing and even DRM-Free.

I've said many times, believing in a cause (DRM-Free, flat pricing) is a noble thing but it's only effective when your big enough to where someone is listening to you. The average gamer doesn't really give half a damn about flat pricing and DRM-Free not matter how much preaching you want to do . They just want to enjoy their hobby and play their games.
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IAmSinistar: You left off the now-crucial GOG qualifier: For Now.™
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mobutu: Oh, but they didnt' forgot about that, that's the meaning of the word "today" ;)
They know perfectly well that is only a matter of time until large-scale gift-locking and region-blocking will be sore realities here on gog.

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mrkgnao: Games that are regionally priced only in RU/UA/UZ and flat priced everywhere else (at the moment 842 games):
http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=440&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmbaxyzXhDFGH&ord=&flt=prp~1~prn~aubrcadechczrorsgbnoseplcn~&opt=
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mobutu: Hi, care to explain what one have to select as inputs on magog to get that results? Because i tried and didn't succeeded, got tangled in magog inputs ;( you can PM if that somehow derails the topic ... thanks!
Two filters:
1) Filters -> Price -> is regionally priced anywhere -> True
2) Filters -> Price -> is regionally priced in none of -> select everything except RU/UA/UZ

If you remove the first filter and uncheck "Removed Games" you get the third link I posted (which was earlier also posted by Cavalary).