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Hope you say the same to Steam (censored Steam China in the making) and Epic (Tencent partnership).
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toxicTom: Hope you say the same to Steam (censored Steam China in the making) and Epic (Tencent partnership).
What?? I thought Lord Gaben was always good....
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Orkhepaj: all he knows he has to defend ccp
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xa_chan: Exactly! Because everybody knows that not agreeing with you automatically means that I'm a drone of the CCP.

After all, if you want to think so, please go ahead.

Must be nice to have such a simple way to think. Everybody becomes simple. No complexity anymore in this world, no nuance, everything is "1" or "0".

Whatever.

Don't worry, you're fightingn the good fight. You're a hero.
Still waiting on an explanation (other than "because I want to") as to why you are defending the "Devotion was made as a political attack" line. Please, enlighten us, I have time :)

Devotion had a single joke at China's expense and it was removed over a year ago. One joke. Put in by a lone person on the dev team.

OK, now you go: tell us all about how the entire game is a political attack. Given your attitude, I'm sure you must have played the game yourself, right? So please, do tell.
Post edited December 20, 2020 by dycaite
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toxicTom: Hope you say the same to Steam (censored Steam China in the making) and Epic (Tencent partnership).
Anti-China paranoia and cpp conspiracy theories, you (and the ones like you) are a living example of the dark side of the internet, just like the Chinese players that got offended.
All i see is a duel of who gets more offended and who can cry louder.
Yes im against censorship, but im also against using GOG as a platform to promote anti-China propaganda and idiotic cpp conspiracy theories.
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xa_chan: Oh but you're mistaken! I'm absolutely not definding the "Devotion was made as a political attack" line! Please quote a message where I do!!

I don't care about all the "Devotion" drama, I don't even know what the game looks like!
It was pretty clear what you meant but this forum is becoming more and more like Facebook!!11!!1, no moderation even with coarse words and insults, people getting nervous and gamers are gamers.
Regardless of caring for the game or knowing about it since before the rejection, why can GOG bow to China for money and it's ok when it's wrong when Activision Blizzard does it? Two weights and two measures. It's an understandable concern and GOG answers are very little satisfying. So I wouldn't call it a drama. I prefer Japanese doramas btw :)
I am not anti-China, it's just sad that devs from Taiwan gets punished for a Winnie the Pooh joke or what it was that was even removed because of the ego of a polititian. It's not so different than North Korea going after Sony. And a bit comical too.
Post edited December 20, 2020 by Dogmaus
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toxicTom: Hope you say the same to Steam (censored Steam China in the making) and Epic (Tencent partnership).
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kaboro: Anti-China paranoia and cpp conspiracy theories, you (and the ones like you) are a living example of the dark side of the internet, just like the Chinese players that got offended.
All i see is a duel of who gets more offended and who can cry louder.
Yes im against censorship, but im also against using GOG as a platform to promote anti-China propaganda and idiotic cpp conspiracy theories.
so you are not against censorship...
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kaboro: Anti-China paranoia and cpp conspiracy theories, you (and the ones like you) are a living example of the dark side of the internet, just like the Chinese players that got offended.
All i see is a duel of who gets more offended and who can cry louder.
Yes im against censorship, but im also against using GOG as a platform to promote anti-China propaganda and idiotic cpp conspiracy theories.
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Orkhepaj: so you are not against censorship...
No im not against censorship, i did not say toxic idiots should be censored, i just said i was against them (mis)using this platform for dubious propaganda purposes and for political agendas.
This kind of behavior does not help the anti-censor cause, on the contrary.
Learn to read properly before trying to be a smart alec.
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kaboro: Anti-China paranoia and cpp conspiracy theories, you (and the ones like you) are a living example of the dark side of the internet, just like the Chinese players that got offended.
All i see is a duel of who gets more offended and who can cry louder.
Yes im against censorship, but im also against using GOG as a platform to promote anti-China propaganda and idiotic cpp conspiracy theories.
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Orkhepaj: so you are not against censorship...
Hatespeech isn't free speech (~Twitter mobs)! You can have free speech as long as you don't say this, this, that, this thing, and that thing over there, and anything else on this non-exhaustive list (strawman). Oh, and you should know the rules, even though we don't have them posted, and, of course, the posted rules don't actually apply (~GameFaqs).
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Orkhepaj: so you are not against censorship...
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kaboro: No im not against censorship, i did not say toxic idiots should be censored, i just said i was against them (mis)using this platform for dubious propaganda purposes and for political agendas.
This kind of behavior does not help the anti-censor cause, on the contrary.
Learn to read properly before trying to be a smart alec.
You do know that the propaganda was listed as a bug, effectively, and was removed, right? By the time GOG would've sold it, there was no propaganda in it.
Post edited December 20, 2020 by kohlrak
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kaboro: ... you (and the ones like you) are a living example of the dark side of the internet, ...
ROFL... that came from the dark side of your brain, obviously.

I'm just sick of the hypocrisy. People expect a small Polish company make a stand against the "evil Chinese communist empire", and don't even think about how the whole global economy is entangled with China fuelling their power, and nobody bats an eye over it.
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kaboro: Mind explaining whats the connection between what i said and what you replied? Any particular reason you quoted my posts or it was just a random act?
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kohlrak: You're saying you're against the propaganda of the game being on GOG, no? But there's no propaganda... There was, but it was removed, prior to GOG's announcement. They're not using GOG for propaganda.
Oh ok thats a misunderstanding then, i was not saying that the Devotion developer used the game (or GOG) for propaganda purposes, i said that the users are using this as an opportunity to blame China and the CPP as usual, and this is propaganda, and this is conspiracy theory paranoia. Not even people's fault, the mainstream media has indulged into rabid anti-China propaganda lately, so people just fall for it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/gop-memo-anti-china-coronavirus-207244
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kaboro: Oh ok thats a misunderstanding then, i was not saying that the Devotion developer used the game (or GOG) for propaganda purposes, i said that the users are using this as an opportunity to blame China and the CPP as usual, and this is propaganda, and this is conspiracy theory paranoia. Not even people's fault, the mainstream media has indulged into rabid anti-China propaganda lately, so people just fall for it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/gop-memo-anti-china-coronavirus-207244
there might be people being racist against Chinese people joining in, but holding China as a government accountable for Taiwan or Tibet and cersorship is legit. And being disappointed in GOG is legit - I know I've been lately.
Post edited December 20, 2020 by Dogmaus
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kaboro: ... you (and the ones like you) are a living example of the dark side of the internet, ...
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toxicTom: ROFL... that came from the dark side of your brain, obviously.

I'm just sick of the hypocrisy. People expect a small Polish company make a stand against the "evil Chinese communist empire", and don't even think about how the whole global economy is entangled with China fuelling their power, and nobody bats an eye over it.
I'm not pleased with that, either, but that's not exactly something that we can tangibly make a campaign against, as you point out. This, however, is a different story, especially becauseit's a small polish company.

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kohlrak: You're saying you're against the propaganda of the game being on GOG, no? But there's no propaganda... There was, but it was removed, prior to GOG's announcement. They're not using GOG for propaganda.
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kaboro: Oh ok thats a misunderstanding then, i was not saying that the Devotion developer used the game (or GOG) for propaganda purposes, i said that the users are using this as an opportunity to blame China and the CPP as usual, and this is propaganda, and this is conspiracy theory paranoia. Not even people's fault, the mainstream media has indulged into rabid anti-China propaganda lately, so people just fall for it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/gop-memo-anti-china-coronavirus-207244
No, i'm actually quite familiar with how this works without the mainstream media, which i tend to ignore. I can't confirm the CCP itself was behind this directly, but this was definitely the result of the CCP over-reacting. From there it seems to be virtue signalling, and that's only if we take GOG at their word, which is suspect enough from their past actions. I don't think it particularly matters: some of us were actually interested in this, and the only one likely to take offense is the chinese. Frankly, if COVID: The Outbreak isn't to offensive for GOG, then a game where the offensive thing was removed entirely should be welcome, too. If this were Japan, i'd still be pissed. If this were the UK, i'd be pissed. I'm not happy with the double standard.

EDIT: And let's be clear, even if we assume that they didn't admit they were playing with the same damn virus in a lab back in 2007, and that the publication was a conspiracy theory, China's pretty culpable for their handling of COVID and their pressuring of the World Health Organization to keep shit moving back and forth from China. WHO also refuses to recognize Taiwan as anything other than a district of china, even when directly addressed.
Post edited December 20, 2020 by kohlrak
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toxicTom: Hope you say the same to Steam (censored Steam China in the making) and Epic (Tencent partnership).
it's 2020 and ubisoft and ea are the good guys. who would've thunk

(come to think of it, i have zero problems with uplay. it's grown up quite nicely as a service. but don't let the drm militia hear of this, they might send me to a re-education camp)