there might be people being racist against Chinese people joining in, but holding China as a government accountable for Taiwan or Tibet and cersorship is legit. And being disappointed in GOG is legit - I know I've been lately.

I'm not pleased with that, either, but that's not exactly something that we can tangibly make a campaign against, as you point out. This, however, is a different story, especially becauseit's a small polish company.

No, i'm actually quite familiar with how this works without the mainstream media, which i tend to ignore. I can't confirm the CCP itself was behind this directly, but this was definitely the result of the CCP over-reacting. From there it seems to be virtue signalling, and that's only if we take GOG at their word, which is suspect enough from their past actions. I don't think it particularly matters: some of us were actually interested in this, and the only one likely to take offense is the chinese. Frankly, if COVID: The Outbreak isn't to offensive for GOG, then a game where the offensive thing was removed entirely should be welcome, too. If this were Japan, i'd still be pissed. If this were the UK, i'd be pissed. I'm not happy with the double standard.

EDIT: And let's be clear, even if we assume that they didn't admit they were playing with the same damn virus in a lab back in 2007, and that the publication was a conspiracy theory, China's pretty culpable for their handling of COVID and their pressuring of the World Health Organization to keep shit moving back and forth from China. WHO also refuses to recognize Taiwan as anything other than a district of china, even when directly addressed.

it's 2020 and ubisoft and ea are the good guys. who would've thunk

(come to think of it, i have zero problems with uplay. it's grown up quite nicely as a service. but don't let the drm militia hear of this, they might send me to a re-education camp)

Wait, the red zone is real?????????????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvYOTz5n6GI

Calling a politician a moron is a very loose definition of 'propaganda.' So it's highly debatable if there ever was propaganda in the game.

But a token example of sheer propaganda is GOG lying by saying that they banned the game because "many gamers" told them to.

I don't know where the quote came from (maybe Stefan Molyneux?), but it goes something like this: "If you want to utterly refute something, you let them have as many exceptions to the rules as they want. Because their logic is wrong, you'll find a way to show they're still wrong, no matter what concessions you allow them to have."

Like flat earthers: you can let them have all the premises they base things on, then you make them explain ocean tides, the sun's disappearance during the night, navigation, etc. You're going to find something fairly quickly that makes no sense.

Funny how gay content is always "forced activist agenda" yet hetero content never is.

Depends how you define forced. Though, sometimes it indeed is. But, common, you can't tell me the LGBTQiA+ community is totally pleased with the terrible pandering. I recently saw an article how trans people were upset about CP2077's oversexualizing trans people in posters, which I can actually get behind despite my feelings towards the community (i'm not fond of transgender, but i'll support the transsexuals), because, the ones i've talked to almost all universally state that it's not their entire identity, and the focus is reducing them solely to this identity. For example, if i talk to a transgender programmer who knows C, C++, Java, Assembly, Python, and contributed to multiple open source projects, maybe speaks 3 languages, does regular talks about how to better educate yourself on certain topics, etc, they very quickly turn into only "a trans person" regardless of which side of the discussion you're on, which is a huge problem because, independent of that particular issue, they have quite a bit to say., but they've been reduced to this singular identity, especially so by the activists that claim to be supporting their rights and the corporations that say "here's your representation, so how us your loyalty, pleb" in the same way that Biden said you ain't black if you don't vote for him. There's a difference between two characters who happen to be gay, maybe you get some sort of easter-egg scene if you're into that sort of thing and know how to find it; and then on the opposite side of things we have "Btw, did you know this teacher from my books that's totally popular, yeah, he's gay, even though almost no one thought this before hand. You go Dumbledor, even though no one cares, because they didn't particularly ask why he didn't have a girlfriend/wife either." Yeah, no, the majority of LGBTQiA+ people i know are pissed with the "look at me, i did a good thing" bullshit from companies.

And if you want some real fun, look at the H-game industry. Strictly homosexual material is almost exclusively VNs (and even then there's alot of intrusion from the transsexual community, which i don't imagine they asked for, either, but it's there for the good boy points), it seems, and that's where pandering would actually be welcomed. You'd think in that industry, especially, they'd list, too, what all you're getting. But, hey, the only reason i know this is because i felt compelled to look into this recently. For all the talk about the internet being for porn, and japanese stuff beign so hypersexual, there's a surprising lack of non-VN content, and the categorization systems are far, far less reliable than any site that simply shows videos.

The operative definition seems to be "present". There hasn't been a single instance of sexual minorities appearing in any form of media, even just a single character or line, without people complaining about it. The use of "forced", "pandering" or "agenda", terms that are used constantly, all indicate the speaker's own antipathy towards the demographic, not anything being "forced" on anyone. Because as I said, such terms are never applied to heterosexual characters or situations despite being overwhelmingly far more common.

The issue about some individuals disliking their portrayal is disingenuous. If 99 blacks want a policy but I find 1 who doesn't, what am I doing when I side with that one person over the 99? Am I not using someone to bolster my own pre-existing position rather than siding with what the demographic wants? Of course no minority likes being reduced to society's stereotypes of them but that does NOT mean they want zero representation.

You'll get people claiming it was never enough, no matter how appropriate. I think the quantity of arguments is more important when evaluating this. And, actually, yes, i have seen complaints about forced heterosexual encounters, but it doesn't usually include the "heterosexual" label, but simply "forced sexual encounters." And, unlike a game where most people playing it are straight and have sexuality shoved in their face, homosexual centered games usually don't have pandering to a straight crowd: we usually call those games straight to begin with. Not many naked dudes in yuri or yaoi, is there (unless you somehow consider stuff like nekopara yuri, when the presumptively male character is the representation of the player, thus logically making the game more catered to straight audiences to begin with)? Literally every single trans person i've met said they didn't want the whole damn world even knowing that they're trans. They're sick of the activists, especially the ones who aren't even trans, reducing them like that and putting undue attention on a small part, albeit important, part of their lives. It's not that they watn zero representation, that's a strawman. They're happy with some, they enjoy not being excluded, but it's rare that it's the end-all-be-all thing on their damn minds like always suggested. Meanwhile, companies that intentionally shove the representation in your face by explaining how proud they are, and how proud of them you should be too (regardless of whether or not you're trans), is pretty off putting. That's what most people mean by "forced." If you give money to the poor and needy, some may clap for you and cheer you on, but when you demand that people clap for you, no one will. While i'm sure they exist, i don't believe many people are out there saying that the homosexuality in skyrim is forced. It's not in your face, it's not forcing you to take a perspective on it. Was the lesbian in fallout new vegas forced? no. Some people didn't pick up on it, 'cause they didn't invest with her. Does anyone care that Jeanette in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines is bisexual? Well, maybe some are attracted to it, but I doubt anyone who's playing a game about blood sucking monsters is going to be offended by a woman vampire who sucks other women in more ways than one, or that as a man or a woman you can have implicit sex with both men and women regardless of your own choice.

how can u force normal?:O if you stick to normal then it is just normal

Depends on how you define normal. There's some research that i'm not going to post here that suggests that in certain groups of people, bisexuality in particular is the norm, not heterosexuality.

That said, it can actually be forced, however you won't see forcing of specifically heterosexuality (outside of porn games, anyway), but sexuality itself. Heterosexuality can be forced via "rape scenes" in games, as well, especially if you're intentionally choosing a homosexual character. There was some outrage involving Huniepop 2, because there was supposed to be a transgender character (male self-presenting as female) which naturally caught the attention of both heterosexual males and lesbians.

Good thinking as they might be changed to another language.