Yes I know. But I felt not that this whas already the start of Game (okay as WoW like would be fitting) more like an open beta or pre Release to fix all those bugs. Oh and it whas said to no editing and no doublepost withing 20 minutes.

Again I am politely asking you to please refrain from using Liberal and Fascist terms in the Mafia game, this is not Secret Hitler or a mesh of Secret Hitler and Mafia together.

If they didn't post at all I would have agreed with that. But they did. They came and took part in the game which technically reset their late timer and even the mod acknowledged it counts as good enough for continuing the game. So, from technical perspective Fran is fine and that's the issue. Fran wasted 5 days and took part just enough to not get kicked out / modkilled / whatever just before the deadline hit (back then it wasn't publicly clear what sort of extension we'll get) with literally 2 lines of text that doesn't have anything to do with solving the actual game. If that wasn't the case I would probably have preferred to go with someone else and leave Fran for tomorrow but this happens to be the most anti-town play we actually have on our hands - it's basically "I want to play after all but I won't try and help the town".

With that being the case I, personally, would go with the scummiest target even though there isn't that much contextual interactions to analyze Tomorrow. To be honest, most of the alternatives are being voted off based on hunches and off-feelings anyway.


With that being said, I'm not deadlocked on Fran. I can be persuaded to vote for Scene or SPF but I repeat that it would be mostly to secure a lynch and it's based on nothing concrete.


I see that you have realized this isn't true in your later post.

I don't know about HSL but I, personally, am quite annoyed by and don't like it one bit. I haven't taken the time read the complete role list with whatever possible powers and modifiers there are so I assume that one of these can actually be doing what it says or something different than actually placing a vote and I don't like that potentially being hidden behind incorrect voting phrases.

If you are voting someone just vote them (ideally bolded). Maybe consider it common courtesy to your fellow players?

I see you already agreed to the above about voting, thank you for that.

It's been a very long, wearisome day, and am now also running a slight fever on top of being beaten. But at least today's set of results weren't all bad. Which just means more tests to undergo in the coming days/weeks.

I've given the thread a first quick read; some things that raise my eyebrow, and a few others I'd like to question/comment on. Hopefully the mod won't close the Day in his morning hours tomorrow (the new deadline is worded a tad too vague) so I get the chance to do it as I don't have the energy to do it right now.

Just want to say one thing before I retire for the day.

I see a few comments focusing on Fran67 lurking/not posting and thus needing to be subbed out or modkilled instead of getting lynched.

Nobody's available to take their place, and the mod's made it quite clear he won't commit the act of modkilling them, so it's up to us. And I for one agree with dedoporno's post #228 that, after their post-reply to the mod's prod in the sign-up thread and the single post they made in the game-thread, it no longer is a case of merely lurking/not posting; that's not pro-town play, and makes them a valid D1 lynch-candidate.

Having said that, I'm still open to switching to one of those I've mentioned yesterday if needed.

Night all, I'm having sort of a break tomorrow, so I'll try to get on as early as possible, and definitely a lot earlier than today or yesterday.

Since I might be busy tomorrow,

Vote Fran

Will try to log in. Willing to go with scene Pooka, SPF or Micro

Vote count please

OK. Please be aware that this is not a roleplay game though. You should play as the player, the characters Zephyr, Koro Koro and the rest are just flavour to make the game a bit interesting to read. You can roleplay if you wish, many auers do, but the objective is to figure out which faction the player, not the character, belongs to.

(Don't mean to sound belligerent, but we got a tough D2 ahead of us if we end up voting Fran)

With a look of sudden fear and panic, Captain Sapphire looks back the way he came. The white-suited guards are pulling heavy metal doors closed. He springs into action and charges toward them, but too late, he slams into them with a clang just as they close. He spins around, looking for a way out. The camera spins round him as his eyes dart back and forth. Close up on Captain Sapphire's eyes and he suddenly freezes, breathing rapidly. There is a very faint rumble... but getting louder...

6 - Frantic Antics (Fran67) - blotunga, Dedoporno, HypersomniacLive, PookaMustard, Lifthrasil, ZFR,
1 - No Unmasking - Korotan
1 - The Supplement (Supplementscene) - Trentonlf,
1 - The Canton Calf (Trentonlf) - Supplementscene,
1 - Serpent Rime (SirPrimalform) - Microfishd,
1 - Micro Fist (Microfishd) - Fran67,

0 - ThrashSeal (Lifthrasil) -
0 - Inkblot (blotunga) -
0 - DeadProng (Dedoporno) -
0 - Zephyr (ZFR) -
0 - M. Moutard (PookaMustard) -
0 - The Hypersomniac (HypersomniacLive) -
0 - Koro-Koro Tank (Korotan) -

Not Voting - SirPrimalform,

Fran67 currently holds the most votes at 1 vote away from majority.

I have installed them and will experiment with them. Thank you for the further help.

My finger has been acting up horribly today, which makes typing miserable.

At this point I will go back the last 48 hours and read/reply as needed.

Will hammer Fran('s mask off) to avoid no-unmasking, but only as a last resort as I don't feel especially qualified to make any real judgements right now.

So that's 20:00 UTC+1 I guess, I trust everyone here knows what timezone they're currently in.

It can be confusing and it should always be in the interest of town to be as precise and clear as possible. Creating confusion only helps scum. So if you want to help scum, you may continue with using creative vote-terms. But if you want to help town, please stick to "Vote X" (bolded of course). Especially since some of us are using adalia's Fundamentals to filter the messages containing a bolded "vote". So using something else can lead to your 'vote' being missed.

As for the Fran wagon: yes, we won't learn much from that wagon, unless Fran turns out to be scum. But dedo's argument makes sense: Joe doesn't seem to be able to get a replacement and isn't willing to modkill. Also, a modkill would help us even less, should Fran be town. But leaving Fran in the game as dead-weight would be disruptive, since there would always be a player who isn't and never will be readable due to not participating. So it's better to remove him now.

I would still be happy to lynch SPF and willing to lynch ZFR or trent, rather than no-lynch. But eliminating Fran will remove an unsolvable element of confusion. Which will again help town - since clarity is in the interest of town.

I totally agree with this. Yes, it is a game, but personal attacks are rarely beneficial.
There have been times that life is so overwhelming that even the light teasing--which the recipient know was meant in fun, and usually enjoy--takes on a bitter edge as they hears it in their head, and this can ruin the mood & even the day.
Thanks for the further, in-depth help with the extensions. I have installed them, and that help is appreciated.

I was referring to Post #34 & 88 as what I see as the "analysis posts" (I may well be using "analysis" wrong).


BUMP please

thank you for da bump!

Yes. Because this is a game where every townie suspects everyone else, as because (as stated elsewhere) some stuff was said which could be taken either way, and you yourself talked about going off of your gut. granted, your gut was educated by seeing unusual-to-you actions. Are you trying to make me ignore my gut when i have no "baseline" to judge you by outside of this game? It's not gonna work. With nothing else to go on I mentioned that I found you confusing early on. That was my first glimpse of your playstyle, and for better or worse, a bit of suspicion entered my mind, which has vaguely colored everything that you have said ever since.

Pooka has played something with you previously, and finds something...off...about your behavior vs that of a different game.

Given "he's a smart and devious player," (Post 199) I feel right in doubting you to a degree. Also, there might be a bit of OMGUS-ing going on, as I'd previously announced doubt about you.
You're flat out wrong. As i already explained, I'd asked the question in post 117. When i did extended research for my post 119, I found some of the terms I asked about in 117.
Also, I am basically lazy to a degree. When I was pre-userscript searching (scrolling through each page, hitting "Ctrl+F", and pasting the term for which i was seeking the definition in the hopes that it had already been stated) was tedious and way too much work, especially when i was tired.
As I seem to recall you stating [paraphrased] "it's a stupid action to claim to be scum, so my claiming innocence is a waste of time."
Ditto that. I know I'm town, as does Joe. You'll just have to watch and decide for yourself,

[spoiler]



unless you're scum and are just trying to confuse others for your team's nefarious ends.



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Thanks, I really appreciate it.

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I am disappointed by Fran so far. S/he doesn't appear to be making an issue. If they are online & willing to play, are they waiting until night to attack? I am not willing to change my vote yet; I titll think it was the best move--but I might reconsider later.
Scene is -- from what people say -- less talkative than usual. That he waited until today to speak is...intersting, but does not doom him beyond all hope, especially as he has IRL stuff. It just makes me take a very dim view of him atm. If he continues to post as he did in #212, he would be interesting to keep alive for now.

I definitely sympathize with SPF's health issues, but he has not changed from being a valid target. Myabe not D1, so that he gets another week without pain to interact, but if nothing changes, he remains my #1, and--right now--I cannot see voting for someone else.
This ghost thing sounds...weird.
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Scene voting for "no unmasking" is...troubling, as everything I have heard/read says that "no unmasking" does no good for the town, and only benefits the mafia.

I am very glad that the tests "weren't all bad" and hope that you recover health soon. Fevers are no fun. Please get healthy soon!

Hmm. I do get your points, but am not willing to be the final player to make that decision. I shall leave it up to another.

BTW @mod. Do the votes reset to zero for everyone after the night phase?

Further note: Fran never changed his vote format despite being warned (post 187) to please fix it.

This.
How does a modkill differ from a lynch?