Looking forward to see benchmarks. Too bad it won't support Windows 7.

On the bright side of things, AMD FX will still be produced and it already became cheaper. A good option for one seeking to build a retro gaming PC.
FX supports Windows 7 and XP.

According to someone on another forum:

"AMD validated windows 7 with Ryzen, so you can install and use, just offcial support for later updates wont happen.
im gonna dual boot 7/10 anyway, only Ryzen could have forced me to install that stupid Win10 :D"

I guess this means it may work, as long as they've not done something to stop it doing so, but to make sure updates to OS are actually turned off so as to prevent something that could balls that up.


Hopefully we'll see in a few days.

This all sounds pretty awesome to me!

So I am finally planning to send my Phenom2 X4 955 (bought in 2008) to its well earned retirement. I do not want to preorder Ryzen just yet before seeing any tests, but I am quite enthusiastic that it will be a blast next week. My old rig needs a refresh urgently since it nearly burned out last summer. I had a hard time fixing it up to work until today. It burned out a connector and a 2GB RAM stick, so I needed a new cooler. I am currently running the new cooler on another spare connector with limited features and only have 6GB DDR2 RAM left.

- CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X WOF
- Case: be quiet! Silent Base 800
or Cooler Master CM690III
- Memory: Corsair DIMM 16GB DDR4-3200 Kit, CMK16GX4M2B3200C16, Vengeance LPX
- Mainboard: GIGABYTE GA-AB350-Gaming 3
- WLAN/Bluetooth Adapter: GIGABYTE WB867D-I, PCIe WLAN-Adapter
- Optical Drive: LG BH16NS55, Blu-ray-Brenner schwarz, 5x DVD-RAM, M-DISC, Bulk
- CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4, CPU-Kühler Special Edition für AMD AM4
or Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4, CPU-Kühler Special Edition für AMD AM4
- Harddrive: Seagate ST2000DM001 2 TB, Festplatte SATA 600, Barracuda 7200.14, Bulk

Round about a thousand bucks. Oh well ... at least I hope it will last me as long as the old setup on AM2+ socket.

What I want to carry over:
- Graphic card: Sapphire Radeon Fury Nano
- Power supply: Corsair RM650X 650 W
- Harddrives:
SSD Corsair Force GS 120GB as System Drive with Windows 10Pro 64bit
SSD Crucial BX200 CT480BX200SSD 480GB for games and stuff
Seagate Barracuda SATA 250 GB 7200rpm as backup drive

Anybody wanna comment on the equipment? I am still a little bit biased about the CPU cooler because I do not really know how hot the new AMD CPU's will be. From the experience with the old ones I tend to buy a rather big cooler with good thermal reserve. Also I would like to hear if anybody can suggest a better case or if anybody has experiences with the ones in my wishlist. I want a case that has USB connectors on front or if on top then they have to be coverable. I know if I get top connectors without cover, I will have a dustbowl in the USB ports faster than the computer can boot up. The case must have enough room for up to 4 SATA drives and an optical drive.
Also does anybody have experience what Windows 10 will do when dropped to a new computer. I think it will install all the needed drivers itself, or maybe do a system refresh. The question is what happens to the license/activation? I have an updated Windows Vista>Windows 8>Windows 8.1>Windows 10 license running. A fresh install might not be possible if I need a Windows 10 key without redoing the update cycle.

If somebody knows one or two things, you can also drop me a PM if you think this would spam this thread. Thanks.

For fairness sake, this is also the only mainboard from Asus that still does not have memory support or handbook published, and the only which geizhals.eu labels as not-supporting ecc.

Means, it very probably supports ECC, information has just not been published yet on site. You may want to ask ASUS (its ECC unbuffered, it will run easily even in any regular non-ECC desktop system).


I don't think that DRM is anything related to forcing OS update. I am on Linux, but most probable AMD simply does not want to backport the drivers to older Windows kernel. It does not really do this in Linux either, unless its enterprise Linux where company does driver backporting itself.

MS has been doing this forced-upgrade due to dropped support for ages, so I don't think this is something new. Whats the problem of not using Windows? Have you tried Linux Mint KDE?

The ASUS's published specifications also say Non-ECC for the other boards you linked on geizhals.eu, for example:

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B350M-A/specifications/

Also, there is some speculation that any implied support for ECC memory really just means that a stick of ECC RAM will work, but without the error correction, in which case that extra bank would be dead weight and a waste of money:

https://community.amd.com/thread/210870

So far I'm not convinced either way.

EDIT: more: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5vlg7o/asus_updated_its_website_and_removed_all_mentions/

"Convinced"? Either you want it or not, either its implemented or not :)

There is only one sure way to find out - check handbook. If there is ECC menu in handbook, then its supported. Otherwise ECC function of unbuffered will be ignored, just as you wrote.

But ASUS is probably the only definite vendor for unbuffered ECC in desktop AMD motherboards...
If CPU supports ECC, ASUS usually provides the needed gluing in BIOS/UEFI to make it truly work. Other manufacturers will just cut out the menu, but not ASUS.

The big problem is that some AMD CPUs do not provide ECC, here also ASUS board does not provide it.

If ASUS does not support it, but it is supported by AMD cpu, this will be big surprise...

AMD+ASUS is also the best and cheapest way for normal user get ECC advantages, server motherboards are quite bad for regular user.. a lot of unneeded functions, a lot of special cases. Like no sound, useless onboard VGA, 3.3 volt only PCI, little expansion slots etc.

Lets wait for handbooks...

Isn't AM4 the future of APUs as well? Ie isn't it a unified socket for future APUs to use as well?

Also, a look at the chipsets if it hasn't been posted already : https://www.pcper.com/image/view/77696?return=node%2F66941

Witcher3 & memory image showing frame rates.
Odd, using a 1080 & hairworks off.
Isn't that an nvidia thing?

https://imgur.com/a/inXFN

P.S. Intel (or at least their sales reps) panicking?

https://i.redd.it/tg551xu3z1iy.png

There seems to be an issue with higher speed RAM : http://www.mobipicker.com/amd-ryzen-high-frequency-ddr4-memory-issue/ so you may want to keep that in mind if you're going to be an early adopter.
Aren't higher RAM frequencies not recommended right now? See link above.

Similar to what someone from OCUK staff posted.

But this may (hopefully) just mean you can use higher speed memory (at higher costs too ;p) & some time in the future, a BIOS patch may solve any problems.

TBH though, faster memory, whilst usually better, I still don't think it's worth it. The minuscule speed boost compared to the price is just not worth it to me.

If it's gfx cards/cpu or similar, the difference is obvious, but not so much with memory.

Vaguely recall Linus (Tech tips) showing graphs etc to this effect too eons ago).

Building & benchmarking RYZEN 1800X over at #Twitch.
Said he can't say what results are due to the NDA though.

https://www.twitch.tv/elmnator

Thanks for the input.

I do not see a big problem here. It is basically the same as it was with my Phenom2. The board and CPU supported DDR2 1066MHz, but with 4 modules only DDR2 800MHz. So I used the missing MHz to run those higher profile RAM modules at more aggressive timings instead of the higher clock speed.
It also reads as this might be solved with a BIOS update later on and I am not planning to go full RAM anyway at the start.

2x8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz is about 20 € cheaper (with with better cycle times). So I decided to go for the maximum supported RAM speed the board offers at release, which is 3200MHz. Even though this may only allow me to use aggressive timings once again.

Hitler reacts to Ryzen benchmarks : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8JLBq4xoAw

AMD live on twitch & youtube about Vega, the new gfx card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVKDNeyfpAo