Leteia: Well I think there is a TV trope that all the gays are evil maybe that is what he or she is saying but I think that is not exactly the case here everyone in the witcher universe is evil on some level, there are no saint really.
I still find it funny a guy like Geralt that is call a freak, that is different and likes to side with the minorities and still people cannot get the message behind the game, ironic really.
Kalfear: You know (and I said this in other post but will say again), the time era fantasy in general is based on (and tends to use their different customs and religions and cultures and social attitudes in most cases, Bioware excluded) doesnt recognize or approve of homosexuality!
Say there was a time machine (I know I know, bare with me here) and you dialed back to the chivalric age, to the knights and squires and all that era. And you even spoke like say Richard Simmons or any number of obvious gay males with the sterotype girlish voice. You would be killed.
No exageration, not glorifying it, just stating the truth as history has recorded it.
The ONLY gays on record with any type of security/safety were POWERFUL MEN who could have you killed with a snap of their finger. ALA Dethmold.
Heck, historica fact, Alexander was gay. Leader of armies that did actually partake in homosexual affairs while campaigning. Soon as they were home though, they were expected to plow their wives and women and anyone caught engaging in homosexual content when NOT CAMPAIGNING was put to death immediately!
Alexander himself, the Freaking KING basically had to hide his homosexuality according to history as the men would not follow him if they knew he was gay when not at war with the army!
Rome in ts highest level of debauchery, it was a crime, if not of powerful social status to engage in homosexual activities.
The fact is, history of this time line states only the very powerful could get away with being openly homosexual, and even then, very very few flaunted it and most went to great lenghts to hide the activity!
So The Witcher 2 with Dethmold buggering a slave in his tent and no one else is VERY FAITHFUL to European mideval times and practices. So
when the only male homosexuality is practised by a deranged, arguably evil and twisted character.
Kalfear: , while not the case in 2011, is very true to form for that era that the fantasy writing is based off of.
I REALLY think people need to stop pushing modern day politics and agendas into fantasy (and even sci fi) games and stories.
I mean, if I was easily offended, id be far more offended with the fact that, except for a virgin (the non humans leader) or a rape victim (Ves) or powerful magic users (Triss and them), women are only depicted as wives (subservant to their husbands) or whores (subservant to money) in the Witcher series, long before the homosexuality agenda ever was mentioned.
But like the lack of homosexuals, the depliction of women in that time period is very accurate! Women didnt have alot of choices back then. For the most part it was either spread your legs and push out children for your husband or spread you legs and collect coppers from your trick (or be a barmaid as well, servant also). Point is it was like that really (in North America) till the 1950s.
Society has advanced and grown. But that doesnt mean every single story needs to push all the different social and political agendas of the modern day. Its role playing and if your not interested in role playing in that era, dont play the game! Or only play Bioware games as it appears they are willing to sell their very beings to get a few extra sales and pander to anyone and everyone!
Honestly, as much as I loved Dragon Age Origins (I rank it #2 (tied with The Witcher) on my all time games list), Zevran was freaking annoying and after the first play through I just simply didnt allow him to join my group because saying no to him wasnt good enough, he had to push his homo agenda every time you tried to speak to him. It got annoying and if they rest of the characters were not as strongly written as they were, I (and many others I know and have read online) would have tossed the game away because we signed up for a grand Mideval Fantasy romp. Not a social leftist political agenda being forced on us.
And you closed mind bigots can call me a homophobe all you want, it doesnt matter as I know who I am and what I am. I dont think its unrealistic that when I load up a mideval style fantasy game I not
1) See a group of woman burning bras and marching for equality,
2) Be constantly accousted openly by homosexual males,
3) have someone shoot me with a AK47
4) Drive a gas powered muscle car with a 6 pack gear shift and a 454 engine
5) and much much more from modern day life that doesnt fit the storyline, setting, normal political climate for the time period back then.
And with that I leave this stupid beyond words thread.
Tommorrow the sun will shine
Birds will chirp
My Cats will demand attention and food
And Geralt will be hetrosexual to a fault!
And im perfectly ok with that! :)
Last time I check there are no females in medieval times that were dragons, so the history lesson is lost here. There are no accurate stories in this game to the European medieval times, this is a fantasy world and ppl should relate to it and not the opposite.
And by the way the witcher is a world were a lot of the modern problems are touch, things like climate changes, to even terrorism. So maybe you need to read the books and the lore.
And so this gets clear, I am against making Geralt gay but I am not against CDPR making a game were your character is gay, just give him or her a new story and begin a new IP.
