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Posted August 20, 2013
Finely ground aliens to take-out.

Shadowgrounds Survivor, a dynamic top-down shooter with swarms of alien horrors to spray with bullets, suggestive visuals, spiffy weapon upgrade system, and four player co-op mode, is now available on GOG.com for only $5.99. With that, its predecessor: Shadowgrounds, receives a Mac version and a permanent price drop to $5.99 as well.

In this indirect continuation of Frozenbyte's exciting alien shooter you'll follow a parallel story of the human commando facing the invasion on the Ganymede colony. The horror creeping in the dark corners of the Universe finally caught up with Terran colonists and the massacre that followed was only survived by a handful of the best trained, bravest, and quickest soldiers. Now it is up to them to put a stop to the extraterrestrial menace that threatens our existence.

Shadowgrounds Survivor delivers non-stop alien-shooting action over the course of 20 diverse missions, and it does so in perfect form. The old-school gameplay concept is paired with very modern visuals. You'll feel the heat of the combat and alien blood splatters as your guns rattle and spit a rain of bullets on your monstrous foes. Are you crazy enough to face the endless waves of beast in the timed survival mode? You can even share the fun with up to three more friends, in the fun and challenging co-op mode. Fun times! Dark and dangerous, but fun.

Humanity needs you again, so grab your upgradeable guns, and seriously kick some alien behind in Shadowgrounds Survivor, for only $5.99.
Posted August 20, 2013
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htown1980: You don't want to hire a lawyer to do that. That would be a waste of money. We need gog to hire tfishell. I reckon they could pay that guy next to nothing to do the legwork for them...
Well, my point is that GOG probably has too much emphasis on publishers. Obviously some big name games would require a publisher on-board, but for less well-known old games which are in limbo and no-one seems to care about could easily be gobbled up if GOG acted aggressively. I mean the rights to the Thunderscape game were nabbed up by a few tabletop gaming hobbyists who then ran a Kickstarter.

I think it's probably because GOG has no legal "mandate" for lack of a better word from their parent CDP to go out and acquire rights to old games, their mandate is just to negotiate with publishers. Even that Blue who posted in tfishell's thread seemed to indicate that GOG do not actively go out to contact these old developers to see where the rights are. That should really change, because the current pace of classics on GOG is way too small and it's starting to really push people away from GOG.
Posted August 20, 2013
Good price, semi-old? Nice! Definitely not a "classic", but hopefully you're building up to some really cool good old games this fall.

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htown1980: You don't want to hire a lawyer to do that. That would be a waste of money. We need gog to hire tfishell. I reckon they could pay that guy next to nothing to do the legwork for them...
HA, thanks. ;) Truth is, though, SCPM and others are probably a bit more dedicated than I am. As the summer months come to a close and I have other "real-life" stuff taking over, most likely my dedication to research will slow down a little.
(Finishing university, need some cashflow, working on a special project, et.)
My focus right now is compiling a list of Abandonia titles that theoretically should be able to come to GOG.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by tfishell
Posted August 20, 2013
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JudasIscariot: Could you show me where we stated outright that classics are not a priority anymore? Implication doesn't count because folks often misinterpret what is implied, which is why >implying doesn't count :D
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SimonG: To quote TurnipSlayer

It's a lot to go through though so it would be amazing if you could have an overall list of publishers/people and the rights you think they hold and when I have some time I'll compare them to what we've worked out ourselves and look into what we can do. This would make my job a lot easier, looking into rights holders is only one of many things I do at GOG and so I simply don't have the time for all this so the legwork you guys do helps a lot. I really appreciate it.

And asking for a list from you customers is not only embarrassing. (seriously, even if that is beneath a GOG staffer, don't you have interns?). but it gives me the impression (same as your new "indie site") that GOG nowadays just waits until somebody kindly asks you to sell their game for them.

Point is, you need our money more than we need you. Act like it.
The only thing that shows is that for me, personally, it's not my top priority to investigate some of those more obscure games. This is not because GOG doesn't care about classic games it's because it's not my primary job, I have other tasks that I do here and we have other people who are focused more on this.
Posted August 20, 2013
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JudasIscariot: Could you show me where we stated outright that classics are not a priority anymore? Implication doesn't count because folks often misinterpret what is implied, which is why >implying doesn't count :D
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SimonG: To quote TurnipSlayer

It's a lot to go through though so it would be amazing if you could have an overall list of publishers/people and the rights you think they hold and when I have some time I'll compare them to what we've worked out ourselves and look into what we can do. This would make my job a lot easier, looking into rights holders is only one of many things I do at GOG and so I simply don't have the time for all this so the legwork you guys do helps a lot. I really appreciate it.

And asking for a list from you customers is not only embarrassing. (seriously, even if that is beneath a GOG staffer, don't you have interns?). but it gives me the impression (same as your new "indie site") that GOG nowadays just waits until somebody kindly asks you to sell their game for them.

Point is, you need our money more than we need you. Act like it.
see: Turnip's post above mine.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by JudasIscariot
Posted August 20, 2013
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TurnipSlayerr: The only thing that shows is that for me, personally, it's not my top priority to investigate some of those more obscure games. This is not because GOG doesn't care about classic games it's because it's not my primary job, I have other tasks that I do here and we have other people who are focused more on this.
Then I guess at least you are still a happy customer.
Posted August 20, 2013
So do you have people who investigate obscure old games?
Post edited August 20, 2013 by Redfoxe
Posted August 20, 2013
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JudasIscariot: see: Turnip's post above mine.
Seriously, it was this article:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/13/many-questions-system-shock-2-comes-to-gog/

Stephen Kick (Night Dive): The rights are still held in a very complicated tangle and going into all of it makes for very dry reading. The short version is that negotiations began in October of last year. I pitched the rights-holder with the focus being on the digital distribution of System Shock 2 and–as much to my surprise as anyone’s, possibly–here we are today.

Guillaume Rambourg (GOG.com): We, of course, have been working on getting System Shock 2 on GOG.com more or less since we started operations, and we were absolutely thrilled when Stephen contacted us from Night Dive indicating that he was able to secure these rights.

That pretty much killed any hope I still have left in GOG. Unless Stephen Nick is -literally- the devil, you did squat to get the most wanted classic on GOG. Sure, Rambourg said they tried to get it "more or less" since always. (probably rather less than more). But when some random dude (an artist, for Christ sake) can get the rights to the most sought after game on your wishlist in as little as five month, then I don't even care if you think you are doing enough. Because you are not.

And using your customers to do you legwork (you already use the community for most of the tech support) is simply cheap.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by SimonG
Posted August 20, 2013
It's a good addition to the catalogue, and better late than never and so on. But I have to agree with keeveek on this topic.

There used to be a time when I was really excited about every second game released here. The last weeks (or even months?) however were mostly meh. And I have the feeling that it's getting meher and meher gradually. Even the new Amnesia isn't anything special, since it's available at the same conditions in other places.

It just feels like GOG is losing its focus and therefore its special aura. My impression is that there's a lot more complaining lately, that people are getting impatient and dissatisfied. Maybe expectations have increased and GOG can't live up to that. Whatever it is, there has to be a reason and GOG has to find a solution.

Maybe that's just my personal perception and others are still cheering the shit out of themselfs for releases like Shadowgrounds Survivor. But obviously I'm not the only one to see it like that.
Posted August 20, 2013
Does anyone know of any good mods for this game? Specifically graphic mods and new levels?

(sorry for the off-topic)
Posted August 20, 2013
Huh. I thought we already had this one...

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm dumb.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by Gonchi
Posted August 20, 2013
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keeveek: sorry for caps people, but some people just don't listen.
People only listen to things that matter. Whining about not being served doesn't matter.
Posted August 20, 2013
Uninspired and generic, avoid it.
Posted August 20, 2013
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JudasIscariot: see: Turnip's post above mine.
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SimonG: Seriously, it was this article:

And using your customers to do you legwork (you already use the community for most of the tech support) is simply cheap.
Silliest argument i ever read in my entire life.
Guess what?
Valve have modders working for free.
Some of these games on steam are activly supported and modding is endorsed but the modders arent paid anything,

The Steam forums are full of moderators who arent paid anything
and theres literal thousand of posts of backseat help from users instead of the tech support guys.
Also theres also threads of feedback and sugestions, complex diagrams etc and these users arent seeing a single dime.

Sometime, very rarly somone of the modders or people in the forums get hired by valve to do work for them
but this isnt often.
So quit talking crap and make it sound like GoG is the only one doing this.

If you want to put the blame on somone, then put it on the users of the services, forums etc who have done this for years since the advent of the computer.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by Lodium
Posted August 20, 2013
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tinyE:
Take No Prisoners was the awesomeness incarnate. I can't remember if I stopped installing it on computers because it stopped working or if I forgot about it.

Most likely I tried installing it on a 64-bit system.

Also, I have the first Shadowgrounds, just haven't gotten around to playing it. Is it really that meh?
Posted August 20, 2013
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JudasIscariot: Could you show me where we stated outright that classics are not a priority anymore? Implication doesn't count because folks often misinterpret what is implied, which is why >implying doesn't count :D
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SimonG: To quote TurnipSlayer

It's a lot to go through though so it would be amazing if you could have an overall list of publishers/people and the rights you think they hold and when I have some time I'll compare them to what we've worked out ourselves and look into what we can do. This would make my job a lot easier, looking into rights holders is only one of many things I do at GOG and so I simply don't have the time for all this so the legwork you guys do helps a lot. I really appreciate it.

And asking for a list from you customers is not only embarrassing. (seriously, even if that is beneath a GOG staffer, don't you have interns?). but it gives me the impression (same as your new "indie site") that GOG nowadays just waits until somebody kindly asks you to sell their game for them.

Point is, you need our money more than we need you. Act like it.
As Turnipslayer said, its a fairly long bow to draw to suggest that because one forum mod's job is only partly about looking for new old games, it isn't a priority for the company as a whole. I wouldn't expect every gog employee to be looking for new old games.

Off topic: The whole "beneath me" thing annoys me greatly. Our gen Y employees seem to think everything that isn't being a superstar is beneath them. They don't seem to realise that complaining about doing the same menial tasks I had to do 10 years ago doesn't bode well for their future promotion. I like that the regular gog staff don't think they are too high up to ask an active and valued community member for assistance, or to contribute to an interesting thread about finding new old games.
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