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Well, they all aren't good games - they are sort of mass produced every year by that Italian indie dev IIRC. Not bashing, just saying some of them could certainly use another polishing pass or two...

Winter Wolf games are basically visual novels, some having RPG and other elements, often otome, with a western audience leaning. Several are sort of youtube lets player favorites, and then people buy them afterwards at those prices despite having watched the whole thing for several hours. So yeah, there's a market all right.

Actually, now that I remember it, I really enjoyed DexterityBonus's let's play of Always Remember Me. Something to watch on a rainy day. Visual novels on the whole are slowly rising in popularity on Steam (now that they are starting to actually... you know... appear on Steam ;)). A lot of stuff like Fate/Zero got their start as eroge, y'know ;) (I think Steam still doesn't accept full-fledged eroge yet, but they are slowly and silently adopting select games with increasing amounts of "adult content").

Glossary:
Otome = Female targeted - meaning you can romance guys (and sometimes girls for fan serv.... I mean diversity)
Eroge = The very mass produced visual novels, often from Japan, with varying amounts of nudity and other "adult content"
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Hi all,
just wanted to clarify some things :)
1) I didn't offer my dating sims, since I don't think they would be a good fit for this site myself! I was more thinking about the RPGs.
2) I know that my RPGs have a lot of text/plot and focus a lot on romance, so can't be for all tastes. I am going to make some different games (RPGs and not) in future focused more on gameplay. For example my upcoming RPG ToA:Seasons Of The Wolf
3) About the prices, everyone has its own opinions about it. My games takes a lot of time to produce since have lot of writing and art. But of course you can disagree. In any case considering how frequent are the sales nowadays I think talking about the regular price doesn't make much sense, since you can get almost any game for under $10 if you wait only a few months ;)

So in summary I respect their decision, and of my games I think only the RPGs would sell here.
Dissenting voice: I thought Loren was pretty mediocre. Dull, repetitive combat, poorly-balanced, inane plot, and , somewhat surprisingly considering their visual novel roots, stilted and dull writing that sapped the drama from any scene with unnecessary exposition (so, for example, as a possessed elf struggles to regain control of himself, we're helpfully told that 'Saren wanted to see if Mesphit could reject his demon side, because if he could, then he could be redeemed.").

(edit: aaaaand the developer shows up. Awkward. Well, that's still my opinion.)
Post edited October 19, 2014 by BadDecissions
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BadDecissions: (edit: aaaaand the developer shows up. Awkward. Well, that's still my opinion.)
Be careful, during Halloween I transform into a Werewolf!! :D
No worries I'm sure my games can be improved, I'm keeping notes of all the feedback to improve on the next games I'm working on :)
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Cleidophoros: Not sure about Loren game but I wouldn't want novels and dating sims cluttering GoG.
I'm sure I would like visual novels and dating sims on GOG.
Then again, I totally support any 日本 related additions.



(Maybe not full eroge, but that's different anyway.)
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KneeTheCap: I agree. I own every single Winter Wolves game they have released on steam, and would buy every single Winter Wolves game if they'd be in gog. I honestly don't understand the reason not to sell them.
Maybe GOG will change their minds now they've released Hatoful Boyfriend here?
I only played a pair of free dating sims in the past (and they were a bit hentai too lol).
I'm not a big fan, but I could try again another one, if it's really excellent.

Also, many people talk about Visual Novels now (mostly eroge hehe).

P.S: Hatoful Boyfriend seems a terrible concept for me!
Post edited October 19, 2014 by phaolo
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jack_norton: I am going to make some different games (RPGs and not) in future focused more on gameplay. For example my upcoming RPG ToA:Seasons Of The Wolf
I bought PS and Loren from your website and enjoyed them absolutely enough to justify the cost. If you make a few games with a deeper focus on the gameplay and mechanics, I think you'll find significantly more of the crowd here receptive to your products; my only consistent disappointment with those two games is that the actual gameplay is quite light.

But, of course, for a visual novel, it's quite advanced, and you're obviously doing well enough to keep making them, so good job ^_^
Yes many VN are eroge :P
However I don't think you can have such games on GoG, or even Steam. I know some are a bit sexy and have nudity, but not real erotic content like the japanese ones. So I think you must forget about that.

Note that I have nothing against erotic if is done properly, i.e. fits the story, but I don't think any big portal like Steam or GoG are ever going to publish that content (I would be surprised if they did!).

Speaking of dating sim, some beside the romance have interesting mechanics (raising stats and such), a bit like a simplified version of "The Sims" :)
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OneFiercePuppy: I bought PS and Loren from your website and enjoyed them absolutely enough to justify the cost. If you make a few games with a deeper focus on the gameplay and mechanics, I think you'll find significantly more of the crowd here receptive to your products; my only consistent disappointment with those two games is that the actual gameplay is quite light.

But, of course, for a visual novel, it's quite advanced, and you're obviously doing well enough to keep making them, so good job ^_^
Thanks! If you wanted more gameplay definitely check SOTW, even if is still in beta is now complete (and there's a quite long free demo as always). I'm going to try mixing more gameplay with story in future titles as well.
Post edited October 19, 2014 by jack_norton
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jack_norton: Hi all,
just wanted to clarify some things :)
1) I didn't offer my dating sims, since I don't think they would be a good fit for this site myself! I was more thinking about the RPGs.
2) I know that my RPGs have a lot of text/plot and focus a lot on romance, so can't be for all tastes. I am going to make some different games (RPGs and not) in future focused more on gameplay. For example my upcoming RPG ToA:Seasons Of The Wolf
3) About the prices, everyone has its own opinions about it. My games takes a lot of time to produce since have lot of writing and art. But of course you can disagree. In any case considering how frequent are the sales nowadays I think talking about the regular price doesn't make much sense, since you can get almost any game for under $10 if you wait only a few months ;)

So in summary I respect their decision, and of my games I think only the RPGs would sell here.
As you're here, I must say that like Jeff Vogel from Spiderweb Software, I'm always impressed by your longevity in the industry ;) You have an impressive catalogue and yeah, people are quick to label all your games directly as visual novel although there are variations in the gameplay, like between Vera Blanc and Nicole (I have the latter free on android and it seems to rely too heavily on money mechanics and grinding).

BTW, can I start Bionic Hearts 2 directly or is the story of the first one relevant?
Thanks :)
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catpower1980: BTW, can I start Bionic Hearts 2 directly or is the story of the first one relevant?
No you can start it directly, even if there are some references to the first game it shouldn't be a problem. To be honest from people's reactions (not my opinion) seems that most like the first one better though. Just FYI :)
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catpower1980: BTW, can I start Bionic Hearts 2 directly or is the story of the first one relevant?
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jack_norton: No you can start it directly, even if there are some references to the first game it shouldn't be a problem. To be honest from people's reactions (not my opinion) seems that most like the first one better though. Just FYI :)
Ok, I'll check it out ;)
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KneeTheCap: So, apparently gog rejected the winter wolves games to be sold in here, saying that they're not a good fit.

How come? They're all good games, many of them are RPG's and I believe they would sell well here. Would you buy a game from winter wolves?

https://twitter.com/pcmacgames/status/523818818951741440

http://www.winterwolves.com
It might be down to disagreements about DRM. A long time ago there was a thread where the Winter Wolves dev was trying to explain why his DRM was nice DRM and that we shouldn't mind it. He didn't really seem to understand why we cared so much, so it's possible that GOG had the same trouble.
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No worries I now have a "different DRM" which is even better. Simple serial codes that works even offline :) In any case the GoG version wouldn't have that DRM, so that's not the problem.
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jack_norton: Note that I have nothing against erotic if is done properly, i.e. fits the story, but I don't think any big portal like Steam or GoG are ever going to publish that content (I would be surprised if they did!).
That reminded me that I liked the graphics of Vera Blanc very much. Do you plan to come back to the Fumetti style one day? Doing a game with the style of Guido Crepax (Valentina) or Hugo Pratt (Corto Maltese) would be great although I don't expect it will sell well comparing to manga style :(