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Posted December 12, 2013
I just realised i pledged $120 for the $65 Tier and i haven't got a clue what i paid the extra ($15 delivery aside) for...
Posted December 16, 2013
You should think about changing this topics name into the Pillars of Eternity. It's pretty hard to find this one.

I've watched the video. It looks amazing. I love Baldur's Gate and I know most of its creators were transfered from Black Isle to Obsidian. However, after that, Obsidian is - in my opinion - some kind of firm making worse sequels of BioWare games ;).

Ok, it used to, because Fallout New Vegas was really nice.

At the movie it looks totally like Forgotten Realms, so I was very surprised when it appeared to be not using the Dungeons & Dragons system. It's a pity that they won't make the console version. After Diablo III I belive now, that it's possible to make a good console role playing game with a classic graphics and it could be even better than PC one.
Post edited December 16, 2013 by loon
Posted December 16, 2013
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loon: You should think about changing this topics name into the Pillars of Eternity. It's pretty hard to find this one.

I've watched the video. It looks amazing. I love Baldur's Gate and I know most of its creators were transfered from Black Isle to Obsidian. However, after that, Obsidian is - in my opinion - some kind of firm making worse sequels of BioWare games ;).

Ok, it used to, because Fallout New Vegas was really nice.

At the movie it looks totally like Forgotten Realms, so I was very surprised when it appeared to be not using the Dungeons & Dragons system. It's a pity that they won't make the console version. After Diablo III I belive now, that it's possible to make a good console role playing game with a classic graphics and it could be even better than PC one.
Ummm no D3 was pretty shit and its an action rpg not like those old classic DND games GOG has here.Pillars is along lines of the old classic games...
Posted December 16, 2013
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nijuu: Ummm no D3 was pretty shit and its an action rpg not like those old classic DND games GOG has here.Pillars is along lines of the old classic games...
No, it wasn't shit, it was great action rpg game. There is no comparison between hack&slash and classic cRPG games like Baldur's Gate or Planescape Torment, but technically Diablo 3 is an outstanding production. It looks great, it's wonderful 2D and it will be fresh in 2018 or maybe even 2022. And it works with consoles, what is great as well.

So I don't want Pillars to be a hack&slash, I just wonder if there is a possibility to make a console version. I think there is and they should try to make it multiplatform.
Posted December 16, 2013
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nijuu: Ummm no D3 was pretty shit and its an action rpg not like those old classic DND games GOG has here.Pillars is along lines of the old classic games...
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loon: No, it wasn't shit, it was great action rpg game. There is no comparison between hack&slash and classic cRPG games like Baldur's Gate or Planescape Torment, but technically Diablo 3 is an outstanding production. It looks great, it's wonderful 2D and it will be fresh in 2018 or maybe even 2022. And it works with consoles, what is great as well.

So I don't want Pillars to be a hack&slash, I just wonder if there is a possibility to make a console version. I think there is and they should try to make it multiplatform.
Pillars was kickstarted to be a PC/Mac/Linux only game. Thats multiplatform.No mention of console.
Come on lots of people disliked D3.I bought it full price at launch and i think its garbage
Posted December 16, 2013
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nijuu: Pillars was kickstarted to be a PC/Mac/Linux only game. Thats multiplatform.No mention of console.
Come on lots of people disliked D3.I bought it full price at launch and i think its garbage
it's important to be said, I've never been Diablo fan. I've played D2 for a few hours, killed Diablo and Bhaal once with my friends. It was ok, but there was plenty of new games. I'm rather a fan of classis RPG games than this whole hack and slash thing.

However, Diablo 3 at Xbox 360 has changed something in my way of feeling console games. It's first time since I bought console, that I can play with my friends for hours (not for 15 minutes with Pro Evolution Soccer or Guitar Hero) and we are really enjoying it. I would recommend it to evryone who wants to play with friend/girlfriend/brother/sister, because it's the best multiplayer fun in console world I've ever enjoyed.

Thats it. I've never tried it in single, just try it with friends on your console. Outstanding fun.
Post edited December 16, 2013 by loon
Posted December 16, 2013
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loon: I've watched the video. It looks amazing. I love Baldur's Gate and I know most of its creators were transfered from Black Isle to Obsidian. However, after that, Obsidian is - in my opinion - some kind of firm making worse sequels of BioWare games ;).
If by "worse" you mean "better in every conceivable way except gameplay which was already shit to begin with", we agree! :p
Posted December 16, 2013
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Gonchi: If by "worse" you mean "better in every conceivable way except gameplay which was already shit to begin with", we agree! :p
I'm not going to die for Neverwinter Nights, but... Dude, please don't tell me you find KotOR 2 better than KotOR!
Posted December 16, 2013
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Gonchi: If by "worse" you mean "better in every conceivable way except gameplay which was already shit to begin with", we agree! :p
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loon: I'm not going to die for Neverwinter Nights, but... Dude, please don't tell me you find KotOR 2 better than KotOR!
Rushed and half finished as it was, Sith Lords is the only Star Wars game along with Jedi Outcast I found genuinely interesting since the 90's.
Posted December 16, 2013
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loon: I'm not going to die for Neverwinter Nights, but... Dude, please don't tell me you find KotOR 2 better than KotOR!
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Gonchi: Rushed and half finished as it was, Sith Lords is the only Star Wars game along with Jedi Outcast I found genuinely interesting since the 90's.
Oh man, it's a blasphemy! You've probably missed the best plot twist in video games history (and one of the greatest cRPGs ever)
Posted December 16, 2013
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Gonchi: Rushed and half finished as it was, Sith Lords is the only Star Wars game along with Jedi Outcast I found genuinely interesting since the 90's.
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loon: Oh man, it's a blasphemy! You've probably missed the best plot twist in video games history (and one of the greatest cRPGs ever)
KotOR? I played it twice.
Posted December 16, 2013
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loon: No, it wasn't shit, it was great action rpg game. There is no comparison between hack&slash and classic cRPG games like Baldur's Gate or Planescape Torment, but technically Diablo 3 is an outstanding production. It looks great, it's wonderful 2D and it will be fresh in 2018 or maybe even 2022. And it works with consoles, what is great as well.

So I don't want Pillars to be a hack&slash, I just wonder if there is a possibility to make a console version. I think there is and they should try to make it multiplatform.
It was shit. Not only did it have always online DRM, there's the RMAH. Dumbed down 5 button hotkey which I suspected right at the start that it was gonna be for consoles. I went to Torchlight 2 and never looked back. Why is D3 even mentioned in this thread?

Erm no, I didn't back so much money on KS games for there to be a console version or multiplatform or DRM whatever. If they mentioned consoles, I wouldn't up my pledge past the $10-20 gauge.
Post edited December 16, 2013 by cw8
Posted December 16, 2013
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cw8: It was shit. Not only did it have always online DRM, there's the RMAH. Dumbed down 5 button hotkey which I suspected right at the start that it was gonna be for consoles. I went to Torchlight 2 and never looked back. Why is D3 even mentioned in this thread?

Erm no, I didn't back so much money on KS games for there to be a console version or multiplatform or DRM whatever. If they mentioned consoles, I wouldn't up my pledge past the $10-20 gauge.
Man, you so eloquently said everything I was thinking while reading the comments about these damn console games. I probably wouldn't have even pledged if they mentioned consoles. I would have thought we would be lucky to get a bastardized console port with an unintuitive control system. A mention of Diablo-clone would have had me on the sidelines as well. I so dislike the hack&slash games.
Posted December 25, 2013
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Crosmando: "Pillars of Eternity" sounds quite uninspired, almost like the project has spent so long as "Project Eternity" they didn't want to change it much. The 2D backgrounds look awesome, it's the 3D models of the characters and animations that look a bit whonky, the 3D spell effects also look a bit weird. I guess in my heart I hoped they wouldn't use any 3D at all, and just import the 3d characters and animations as sprites.

Also from what I've read of the mechanics, it's going away from traditional D&D style mechanics, there's stamina regeneration and limited "cooldowns" for spell switching. I'm not sure if you even need to rest to recover spells.

But I'm still looking forward to it, apparently it will have Myth style time slowdown for combat, which will make real-time combat more palatable for me.

I'm just afraid from criticisms I've heard, that the game is going to go too far from D&D-like mechanics and many backers simply won't like it. It's a risk with Kickstarter projects based entirely on nostalgia.
Just registered my pledge on the site. Didn't even notice the new name till I read the news post xD
I also find it quite...lacking? Dunno, Project Eternity sounds better for me, but probably only because I got used to it :P

Going away from traditional D&D mechanics might be better for people like me (I like RPGs more for the story, but I'd like to keep the combat as simple as possible). And I fucking hate it when I need to rest in Torment so I can use my spells again :/
That said, P:T is the first ever D&D game (and classical RPG) I've played, and I like it a lot. Can't wait to see howthe Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter games are! (Icewind Dale too, but I heard it's more about combat than story. Same for ToEE)

They also have put a poll up where they ask people if there should be some new stretch goals. I'm all for new content and such, but isn't the game already big enough? Anyway, I'll keep an eye on this, maybe I'll even upgrade my pledge, should the new stretch goals be decided upon.
Posted December 25, 2013
I'm wondering how long the pledge lines will be open. I'm considering upping my pledge, but would like to see a little more first.
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