Very quickly, because I have no IRL time, okay. I was wondering.

@TRENTONLF I hope that all is well and that you don't have the 2020 plague! Best of wishes on your speedy recovery to health!

EBWOP: was supposed to read "you and zfr.
Apologies.

I hope you have a fast recovery, even if you got the virus! (Hopefully not)

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So you didn't read the rules and yet pretended sure knowledge of them, when you used them as argument against Scene. You also didn't fully read the post you quoted, where Scene had replied to the very question you repeated as another argument. That's bad. Really bad! Especially if you are Town. (If you are, as I assume, Scum then by all means, continue to slip, please! ;-) )


No, because you did so giving an insufficient reason. You base your vote on role speculation in a closed setup.
Also, because you evade or ignore questions until you are pressured into replying by repeating the questions. Carradice's question concerning Joe and my questions about your rating of the remaining two thirds of my arguments against Yogs. You focused on the one argument against him that you could excuse and completely ignored the other two. It's not so much who you defend and who you suspect. It's the way how you do it and how you reply selectively.


Exactly. I was looking for connections between yogs, you and maybe trent. You know, that's part of scum-hunting to look for connections between other players? And those two posts stood out. That's why I chose them as examples for yogs giving reads without any justification whatsoever.


That is actually a good question. There might be flavour differences, depending on the role that did the blocking/jailing/result-preventing.

@Carradice: were you explicitly told, that you were role-blocked? Or did your investigation just fail?

@micro: once you catch up far enough, I am very interested in reading your thoughts on Yog's vote on Scene and ZFR's and my interaction about that.


Don't worry too much. I feel that way every morning. It's just old age catching up to us! ;-) But seriously, get well soon and I hope that the test will turn out negative.

Duh. Of course if something major happens like a counterclaim, we change it.

Or a full Doc flip.

Why answer a question which the person who asked already answered himself?

Regarding the second point. I already wrote that I wasn't saying yogs is not scummy, just that I was finding him less scummy than Carradice. I just pointed out one point why is it so. When you asked about the other two, I answered.

Except that's not how it works. You're not looking for connections between other players, you'r picking up connections that support your predetermined hypothesis.

yogs said ZFR OK: Aha! a clear sucm connection. yogs said trent OK: Another scum connection. Yogs said Carradice OK: Oops, let's ignore it.

Oh, so he's got to try it later over and over again. Gotcha!

Any reason why or just going with the flow?

I like some of the comments Micro is doing (I was waiting to see him post as he was my choice yesterday) but I also have doubts about his approach where is is responding to and questioning outdated posts. But I have to admit it also brought some things that would be otherwise maybe forgotten to the table?
Also there is a bit too much talking to dead players instead of living ones.

It is interesting obesrvation and it is quite weird why several people chastised him for not-voting while he did but it should also be noted you left out SPF who did it too in (671)


Jailer could in order to protect him. Or it could be that his action just failed, like if he targeted gogtrial. Sometimes mod distinguishes it, sometimes, they don't. But that's up to him to answer.

What are your current thoughts on Micro?
You had him as town on first Day and didn't want to lynch him again on D1 but how do you see him now, when D1 lynch is out of the picture?
You said scum Micro wouldn't act like he did toward town Carradice but have you ever thought about them both being scum?

And you felt it won't happen without your vote?
Why you felt his role needed to be removed?

Oh, I see.
Town reading him on what basis? The stuff mentioned in 515

Uh, OK then...

you ruined it!

My pleasure.

I didn't think too hard, there wasn't time

compulsive visitor doesn't really help town, especially once it is publicly known, and scum might use compulsive visitor as a false claim if they think it's likely there's observing roles

yeah that stuff

Sorry, for my low activity these days. Busy times at work as collegue has days off and her work needs to be done. I have day off yesterday so feel free to grill me then if i don't participate much but not now. Thanks.

So you did not think the role itself needed to be removed but that it was convenient false claim?
Do you have any scum suspects? I have trouble finding any in your posts.

yeah that's right. I guess I said it weird before.

I town-read him when I thought Carradice was Town because his claim was true. Plus I like Micro's defense and post towards the end of D1.

Now that I think Carradice is scum, Micro could be scum as well. Yes, they could be a team, and that would explain his actions D1 when Carradice was the main wagon.

So it's basically same as D1. Town Carradice indicates Town Micro. Scum Carradice could indicate both scum and Town Micro.

All the more reason to see Carradice flip.