Lexor: Should be GOG not GoG.

spinefarm: Sorry for that. But you keep accusing pirates of doing crimes. Why don't accuse EU politics to take 10-12 thousand euros a month for doing nothing :)
Btw you said one thing that bother me much... you say you work in the summer to cover expenses on gaming... and I guess your parents cover your expenses for living and studying than. So ur point kinda suck atm ;)

GameRager: Regardless, piracy is piracy. Don't try to sugar coat or defend those who pirate movies and music due to region restrictions/availability over those who pirate games due to the same or similar reasons(if indeed you are attempting to or are doing that, intentionally or no.).

I agree he's not phrasing it in the best manner but he has some valid points under all that crudeness, I think.

keeveek: it's gog.com not GOG.

hedwards: And your point is? People around here pirate movies and music these days because they can't just run out and buy a legitimate copy at the local music store. Also, thanks to region blocking they generally can't find it legitimately online either. The copies that would be bought are obvious TV rips that have been packaged up to look nice.

You also seem to be woefully ignorant of the history of computing by taking that stance. Most, if not all, people who grew up around computing from the '90s or earlier were pirating things off of the sneakernet or BBS and at that point it was considered to be normal, the likelihood of anybody being caught was minimal and in many cases if you liked it you would buy it. Not to mention that early on the whole notion of selling software was just nuts, you sold the machines and gave away the software to help sell machines.

Times change and these days piracy is something that's pretty much only excusable when you're somewhere that you can't buy the products legitimately. And even then you ought to delete it before you come home.

Turning it into an ad hominem attack where one isn't appropriate does you no favors.

hedwards: I disagree with that completely. It's incredibly arrogant to suggest that people shouldn't have access to foreign culture just because it isn't being provided in a legitimate fashion. The only way that the world is ever going to see peace is if we all have a chance to look at the cultural artifacts that other nations and races produce.

But, more than that, the fact is that it's not hurting anybody because under that sort of circumstance there's no possibility of buying the goods anyways. At least if people pirate it they might acquire a taste for such media in the future and might be able to pay for it.

It doesn't matter why one doesn't pay for it it's a non-sale, at least for people around here they aren't able to buy the things legitimately. Something that's not the case in much of the rest of the world.

GameRager: Dude, i'm trying to get your back here so c'mon and be a bro and try to remain civil in your debate. ;\

GameRager: Agreed but as I and others said the number of pirated downloads is irrelevant(largely) due to the fact that most pirates couldn't or wouldn't have bought the game in the first place and didn't deprive the company of a physical product or resource. The number could be tens of thousands of pirated copies and as long as none of those pirates had the resources to buy said game and/or didn't plan to buy it anyway and didn't steal anything physical from GOG to get said game copy then said pirate by and large(for the most part) don't contribute much to a loss on GOG's part as to finances/resources.

spinefarm: Yeah sorry dude...kinda raged for a moment. I don't feel like a criminal cause I can't afford to give 500 euro a month for games...

SimonG: Everybody calm down! I heard there is also pictures of naked woman on the intenet. NAKED! WOMEN!

Adzeth: There could be other problems, since the human mind works in mysterious ways. :p

GameRager: Have a nice cup o' tea then and we'll all chat this out nice and kosher like. :)

GameRager: That argument holds no merit (IMO) as the need for those sales and extra income from GOG's amazingly well done sale pitch/release events outshine the "few" pirated copies "lost" to pirates as a result of doing business with GOG......besides, people are pirating the games GOG now(and possibly will sell) sells already, so possible future piracy of GOG versions is not much of a concern when companies choose to sell games via GOG.

uulav: You are wrong, eu politicians are doing all they can to control this finance crisis. So its quite ignorant to say that they are not doing anything. Still i can't make any connection with that and game piracy?

Adzeth: I was actually just making fun of the publishers who think that DRM stops piracy and no-DRM makes it a bloody free for all instakill deathmatch. :p

spinefarm: I'll have a nice coup of coffee instead...kinda sleepy atm :D