Good call Lift. There is definite value in having a confirmed town slot.

I'm here. Dead tired but I'll at least catch up before going to bed.

Just on Doom Patrol:

"It was 15th century, we didn't have Bugs cunting Bunny."

RIP, Lift, we don't have Bugs anymore as well.

Note: I'll quote and answer/comment/refer in order of reading so there might be things that double up other's posts or questions that got answers in later posts, but I'm not going back to revise unless there's a very good reason.

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Wasn't Yog who spoke of self-resolving and ZFR of removing the distraction? Either way, I'm not sure this is to be looked at as the exact same situation as it's not (different amount of disclosed information and a different player).


What I made of this originally was GH was actually a Vanilla or some sort of blank or even Town-damaging role and was trying to make it so obvious and "important" looking in order for the scum to go after him instead of another of the supposedly more useful powers. Apparently that's not exactly the case but it still doesn't make sense for scum to try and "hide" preemptively like that.

By extension, if GH is in fact Town ZFR very likely is, as well.


I don't know about Vitek but thinking of Joe in the shower does work wonders indeed.


Indeed.


Oh no.

Good job! There is literally no bad outcome of going out like that. Good fucking job. I hope all goes well with your RL endeavors.


All done.

@Trent, whatever you decide. If I have to be 100% honest it would be better for me to not play in the next week or so as we are moving house right now but I do want to keep playing and still can.


Can't do more now as I'm falling asleep on the keyboard.

"self resolve" and "remove a distraction" were both first used by me.

"Eh, I'm tryin' mah.....ya should at least give me my due for that much!" ;)

Fair enough.

Dunno if serious. If it is, that sucks to hear.

(Bump needed)

I am in for the long haul, chief.

Hm... I've been thinking too, but not along the same lines.

I asked Vitek what he thought about Gym, because it seemed like ZFR had turned from don't-lunch-Gym to considering-Gym-for-viable-lunch. I got the impression Vitek had nudged ZFR onto that train of thought, but kept back himself, like setting ZFR up to take the fall so I wanted to force Vitek to put his stance down.

And vitek does, and then he writes like this:

and I think, maybe Vitek wasn't so much nudging ZFR, but ZFR was giving the impression he was being nudged?


and now we see:

....is ZFR trying to suggest "actually these ideas aren't coming from me, I'm pushing them, but they originate from the shadows"
if he is, is it deliberate? Is it calculated? What a thought!

ZFR town-reading Gym for town cred, then thinking "What am I doing? This could be an easy powerrole lunch" and so one-eightying. I like it. But I hate it too.

One of the reasons for hating it is it's true what he's saying about Gym - it seems similar but is very different.

BLARG. I'm tired and I've not even started catching up today.

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PRE-POST EDIT

ZFR and Gym's back-and-forth I think now is probly town-town. I thought ZFR v carradice last game might have been scum ZFR getting pulled into an ill-advised conflict and I was wrong.

So of the two of them, if there is a mafia it's probly Gym. Which I'm still not that convinced by. His eagerness to claim in full belies the "breadcrumbing PR because doesn't know what to falseclaim" theory.
But he could just be bluffing... saying he's going to claim without actually intending to.

I dunno. I'm used to Gym being honestly dishonest when he needs to be. I still find it hard.

AND

unovote Dreamia

desperado could have been a nice surprise for the mafia closer to endgame, but okay. I suppose it makes sense. Probly I'm just bitter because I was just gearing myself up for some good, thorough Lifthrasil-suspecting. What'll I do now?

Hope you're well Lift, and see you next time.


Falling asleep, but in the morning I'll try and take a better look at the game and contribute something intelligible. Well. More intelligible than this garbage.

Weren't you advocating for removing the distraction preemptively while Yog and possible others were saying to leave Carradice alone and letting him "self-resolve"? I'm going off memory hear so I may be misremembering things but I think it was me who initially got you to leave Carradice alone (even for a little bit).

Anyway, the more I think about it the more I think you can't be scum here in either case. Scum!ZFR didn't really need to back off Town!GH like you did. The only sensible scenario for that is if you're both scum, GH got himself in trouble, you decided to distance yourself from him and even bus him but managed to get him on track with your discussion and come out of it somewhat "clean". In which case that would mean you probably don't share a day-chat together as it's unlikely any of this would have went in the direction it did if you did. Which suggests your mention of the day-chat was just a speculation rather than a slip. So whatever GH is it's more likely you're Town, I think.

Not exactly. The situation you're referring to was on D2 when I wanted to lynch Carradice, not so much to remove a distraction but because by that point I was pretty sure he's scum, while yogs was advocating to let him leave and see how it resolves on D3.
However I used the term "self-resolve" first as early as D1.

And I see there is another page (of mostly one meaningful post).


I don't know about Vitek nudging but there is Catte supporting. I really don't like the "tag-along and expand" tone of #155.


Pre-post edit: (I'm glad I refresh before posting this time)

OK, that rings a bell so it's probably like it happened.

Re: the claim: I full intend to drop it around 24 hours(or maybe a bit more, to give others time to react to it) before end of D1.....whether I have a wagon on me or not....as it has some town benefits(or so it seems, if I am reading the info right).

(Also tbh I could've went with the full claim from the get go, but then I wouldn't have gathered as much data on other players, I think)

You can still suspect me, if you want....it's almost a traditional past time in these games for most players, anyways. :D

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To the rest of y'all: Up for a bit....if anyone has any questions or just wants to discuss anything game related(mafia game, that is).

Who do you suspect?

Hello.