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Don't worry, it isn't too serious. I hope. But time consuming and it's necessary to dedicate much attention to it. Thank you for your kind words.

Since finding two replacements is way more difficult than finding one, I will use my one shot power now. That will kill one player and confirm another as town. That will help town as much as I can without actually playing.

I am a one shot Desperado. I can attemt to daykill someone. If I aim at scum, they die. If I aim a anyone else, the shot backfires an I die instead. I will aim at dreamia. If she is Mafia, she will die. If she is Town or Neutral, I will die instead.

So, one will die and the other, who will be replaced, will be confirmed non-Mafia.

shoot dreamia

@Town: make the best of it!
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my name is catte: 1. The vagueness of the claim suggests he doesn't want to lock himself down too early.
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GymHenson: There was actually a reason and method to the vagueness.
(Read the reply above to ZFR for more info on that aspect)

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my name is catte: 2. The lack of subtlety suggests that he wanted it to be seen.
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GymHenson: You're right...I did. As Pooka stated a few posts back, some skim my posts....I wanted to make sure such gets seen, and thus I overcompensated due(in large part) to worrying it would be missed otherwise.
Well that doesn't make a huge amount of sense. You don't really want breadcrumbs to be seen until they're pointed out (or in the case of your untimely death, looked for). A breadcrumb that's intended to be seen immediately like you suggest is just a statement. There's functionally no difference between doing a breadcrumb that all players see immediately and just outright stating the same information.

So... why were you so concerned that it be seen?

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my name is catte: I think GH knows by know that breadloafing isn't all that helpful so I'd expect him to breadcrumb much more subtly if his intentions were genuine.
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GymHenson: Had I known/remembered(could be either one with my memory being the way it is) it was role madness and the PR was one I was more familiar with I likely would've done such, or perhaps(more likely) not crumbed at all.
I'm not talking about role madness, I meant that broadcasting information in that way is just not a helpful thing to do in any situation. The entire point is for the information to not be spotted at the time. So if you wanted your loaf to be spotted straight away (and were even worried people might not spot it), I'm not sure your motives are genuine. Seems like you wanted everyone to know you were claiming a PR in the hopes you'd be left alone.

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Ok, I see ZFR asks most of the questions I wanted answers to, I'll pick this up after that discussion.

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Ok, this has left me thouroughly unsatisfied. It's possible that GH still doesn't understand the function of breadcrumbing, but I'd like to give him a bit more credit than that. This reads more as a failed scum plan than complete nonsense town behaviour.

Unvote fuckit, who was I voting?

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Unvote Dedo

This is a massive pain in the arse.

Vote GymHenson

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Lifthrasil: Sorry. I realized I can't really play this time. RL intervenes heavily at the moment. So I'll have to ask for a sub or another solution. I'll talk wit trent, and i can try to participate a bit. But I haven't even read what you all wrote.

Meanwhile, not to do damage in absence,

unvote
Oh no, the curse strikes again. :(

Trent had better honour that unspecified unvote in the circumstances.
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Lifthrasil: Don't worry, it isn't too serious. I hope. But time consuming and it's necessary to dedicate much attention to it. Thank you for your kind words.
And thank you for playing with us all these times...it's been fun.

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Lifthrasil: I am a one shot Desperado. I can attemt to daykill someone. If I aim at scum, they die. If I aim a anyone else, the shot backfires an I die instead. I will aim at dreamia. If she is Mafia, she will die. If she is Town or Neutral, I will die instead.

So, one will die and the other, who will be replaced, will be confirmed non-Mafia.

shoot dreamia

@Town: make the best of it!
Well we'll either have a confirmed town(or neutral) in both cases, and(if Dreamia is scum) one less scum faction player.

(though tbh I think it's more likely Dreamia is town...I don't think a scum would ask to be subbed out like that...though I could be wrong)

See you later, Space Cowboy fella *salutes*

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To the game/all: Need a bump please :)
bump
Ok, maybe it's time to let the cat out of the bag and reveal my intent(re: the PR "crumbs"):
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my name is catte: Well that doesn't make a huge amount of sense.
My play style often deviates from the normal sense, as you likely well know by now.

And as I said earlier, there is a method to my posts and vagueness....which is explained in part here with this next reply bit:

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my name is catte: There's functionally no difference between doing a breadcrumb that all players see immediately and just outright stating the same information.
This will come as a shock(due to how I normally play), but they in effect WERE a claim of sorts...a vague one, which achieved a few things:

1. I got some people to reply to it(or not in some cases)....and from their replies I can puzzle out some things(like ideas on alignments**....btw i'm still working on this bit, but ideas are taking shape in my mind).

2. It kept my PR safely hidden, as I intended(for now), while gathering said information and replies.

(**=I am near certain ZFR is town now because of our recent back and forth posts and their content & his reactions to the "crumbs", for example)

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my name is catte: Seems like you wanted everyone to know you were claiming a PR in the hopes you'd be left alone.
Not gonna lie...this was partially why I "crumbed"...I wanted to make sure I could keep going in the game, as I love playing for as long as possible.

But it was more for the reasons above and helping my team, and having some fun with the game as I went along.

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my name is catte: Unvote fuckit, who was I voting?

Unvote Dedo

This is a massive pain in the arse.

Vote GymHenson
Did you really forget who you voted for, or was this just a joke(that you forgot?)? Am curious on this.

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my name is catte: Oh no, the curse strikes again. :(

Trent had better honour that unspecified unvote in the circumstances.
I'm hoping Trent honors the shot Lift took after that, as well....even more so than the unvote.

If it works as intended we should be able to clear up even more alignments than the ones I have been puzzling out.

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So now in my mind ZFR is very likely town, and I am puzzling out others. I will also likely full claim before end of D1. And with all that and(here's hoping) a good result on Lift's shot....well I am hoping all that helps along with everyone else's contributions to win this thing for us all.
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GymHenson: But it was more for the reasons above and helping my team, and having some fun with the game as I went along.
Your team being mafia and the help being this gambit? Because I can't see how you would think this would help town...

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GymHenson: Did you really forget who you voted for, or was this just a joke(that you forgot?)? Am curious on this.
It was an RVS vote on (as it turned out) page 1. I had to go and hunt for it because I couldn't remember exactly when I'd made it.

Uh, so guys. My fridge freezer might have just died. It's probably not going to take up too much of my time, I just wanted to grumble.
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GymHenson: But it was more for the reasons above and helping my team, and having some fun with the game as I went along.
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my name is catte: Your team being mafia and the help being this gambit? Because I can't see how you would think this would help town]
I've now got a nagging feeling that if GymHenson is indeed scum, that ZFR might be his scum buddy. He's seen his buddy completely botch his fake claim, so now hiding in plain sight?

I played scum last time I took part and attempted a similar strategy in that game.
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nmillar: I've now got a nagging feeling that if GymHenson is indeed scum, that ZFR might be his scum buddy. He's seen his buddy completely botch his fake claim, so now hiding in plain sight?

I played scum last time I took part and attempted a similar strategy in that game.
Oh, I remember that. It was Micro's "I'm the Watcher of Kalunga!" moment, which he then dragged Trent down with as well. You did well to last as long as you did in that game.
Weird. Yesterday GOG claimed there were no new posts when I refreshed the forum but when I count the time it is obvious there were.

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Lifthrasil: ...
@Town: make the best of it!
Good play given circumstances.

I am still bit on fence about GH. It certainly dominated the discussion so fa and I am not happy about that. If I give him some credit it's obvious mafia, otherwise it's very misguided town and I am yet to decide which one is it.

I have one scum suspect but they haven't posted enough. Then there is dreamia where we will see soon but I was inclined to believe scum a bit because of their replacement due to being overwhelmed and I feel it is more likely for mafia than town.
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Vitek: Weird. Yesterday GOG claimed there were no new posts when I refreshed the forum but when I count the time it is obvious there were.
Yeah, it did it to me too. It said there hadn't been any posts for 12 hours but when I checked there had been quite a few more recent ones.
bump in case it was needed
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Microfish_1: bump
Funny way to spell "sub"
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ZFR: Funny way to spell "sub"
nope, sadly. Not yet anyway. No IRL time or energy atm.
Out of nowhere Bugs stands up, looks Lola in the eyes and says "Hey Doc, I think you are working for DaBomb and that will not do". Bugs pulls out what looks like a carrot and aims it at Lola. The carrot looks like it explodes in Bugs' hands and he flies backwards slamming into the wall. A giant knot starts growing out of Bugs' head and he falls over face first into the carpet. Two gentlemen in masks run in, place Bugs on a stretcher, and run back out carrying Bugs to the Looney Tunes recovery center.

Over the intercom everyone hears "Ok, Bugs Bunny is out of the picture and the rest of y'all will have to make the decision without him"

Bugs Bunny is gone, he was Town Desperado


Vote Count

JoeSapphire (1) --------------voted by Vitek (post 5)
Pookina (1) -------------------voted by nmillar (post 13)
Dreamia (1)-------------------voted by JoeSapphire (Post 25)
GymHenson(1)---------------voted by Catte (Post 182)


With 9 remaining it takes 5 votes to lynch. If you feel your vote is not in the correct place please let me know.


So far a sub has not been found for Dreamia, still waiting to hear from a couple of people. If everyone feels it would be best to stop this game and do something else I am ok with that.

Also if the game does continue I will allow Unvote with no name to be used, but Unvote must be used or the last vote placed will be what counts
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ZFR: Funny way to spell "sub"
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Microfish_1: nope, sadly. Not yet anyway. No IRL time or energy atm.
Sorry to hear that.

@Lift, well played. Even better than you think.

@trent, I'm fine with whatever you decide.