"Redundant"

I had no expectations for Bookwyrm. As I stated, upon rereading his posts I saw things that made the Vote right out of the chute seem random at best and not town at worst. Hence the vote.

I guess my opinion of it is the scattershot of hypotheses that were cranked out. It wasn't something that was an attempt to build a consensus. But an ongoing machine making theory after theory. It's a stretch I'll admit when you see mafia you usually see some agreement. You know I think I'm full of shit.


"characterized by verbosity or unnecessary repetition in expressing ideas; prolix" 11 down

"Hesitant"

My it sure has gotten quiet in here. I can almost hear my bourbon aging. Wait....where did I leave my glass.


It was in the laundry room on top of the dryer. It's my day off so I'm just about out of brain cells. These posts take me far too long because every third word is misspelled.


"lacking readiness of speech" seven across

Unless someone has a compelling argument I have no interest in voting mchack or HSL today, flub and bookwyrm I could possibly be swayed on, but I have no issue with lynching dedo or Lift and seeing as we have two lynches today they are the two I prefer (if two lynches are even necessary).

I'm assuming that was the reason why he self-hammered. It's the only reason I can see for a townie self-hammering. Perhaps he was worried that no one else would hammer and we would go to no-lynch. It's a bad argument, yes, but it's the only reason I could understand. Unfortunately we can't ask him now, so finding out his reason for the self-hammer will have to wait until after the game.

@flubbucket: you made a compelling case for lynching yourself yesterday. Would you agree, that you are a good lynch today? Or did your scumbuddy, which you probably have by now, talk you out of arguing for your own lynch?

And what of HSL?

Yes, and WIFOM can swing each way - which is, why I also look at the situation if you disregard WIFOM. And without any WIFOM, flubb is the perfect recruit. He is know for acting strangely and nothing in his act will be regarded as a tell. He is also known to improve his game on Day 2 or later on, so the older players might be inclined to keep him around. So with Sage out of the picture (who is an awesome scum player), flubb is definitely the player I would convert if I were the CL. HSL would be the second option, just to eliminate him as an opponent, because I see him as dangerous town player. But I'd like to read a bit more from him today before considering whether he might be scum today.

Meanwhile, I go with my now first choice, flubbucket, for the reasons explained and I'm sure, that he is currently our best lynch candidate.

"Statistics"


Technically I was a better lynch yesterday than I am today, but I'll be hard pressed to convince you of such. I have no "scumbuddy" to talk to but there most likely is two of them and my lynch will make less of us.

I see him as a most likely Night One recruit. And he has gotten much quieter.

Noticeably quieter.


"a branch of mathematics dealing with the collection, analysis, interpretation, and presentation of masses of numerical data " 27 Down

Why? Did you fail to recruit one tonight? ;-)

"Sarcasm"


Apparently I'm not as pretty as I think I am.


"the use of irony to mock or convey contempt." 13 Across

Oh poor you! You have my sympathy.

But I do agree with you in one point: I would like to read more from HSL.

The Greater Good

[emphasis added]

Why? Lifthrasil was one of his suspects D1.


I know you try your best to makes us think you do.


Elaborate.


What made me a most likely N1 recruit?



Can someone be uncertain of their own alignment, regardless of what it may be?

The Greater Good

I had just started going over your ISO when Hunter65536 shut the discussion down with his self-hammer, because I wanted to comment on this post of yours. So doing it Today.

Which votes would that be? The joke and shrug votes on Sage103082 and Hunter65536 you placed early in D1? Or the invalid, yet still joke votes on Sage103082 and trentonlf? The only serious votes you placed was on Lifthrasil, which also started as a non-serious one ("nearly farcical" were your own words) and which you explained only after I asked you about it, and the last one on Hunter65536 which you didn't really explain, because:

doesn't say why you preferred him over Lifthrasil.

So, statements of intent-to-lynch don't say much when you're not making your reasoning for each candidate clear.

As for giving your opinions, your ISO says you did only when asked, and in my case, you made a convenient comment at the time, and left it at that:


[emphasis added]

I didn't like it when I read this Yesterday, and I still don't like it. It seems quite a convenient way to not take a clear stance and, having already laid the ground a bit, be free to swing it however you like Today. More so, given the advice you gave to others (last bit of post #326).

The question is what motives would each alignment have to reserve this room for them. You may say it was a matter of lack of time, and while there may well be some truth to it, I don't put it past you to have planned it.


At the time of your post #362, only flubbucket had already posted. Why was voting the appropriate action to take instead of waiting to see if anyone else had any information that may have influenced your view? I mean, the Day had just started, was there any rush to put out votes, and if so, why?



So do tell, did you?

I have been torn on revealing this or not, I am the town alarmist and can keep someone drunk in the pub at night and prevent them from being recruited. I hinted around that I had a protective role with my going to watch Point Break and Bad Boys II in post 32 and after HSL asked me about Cornetto in post 91 I thought he might have been hinting that he was the investigative role so I protected him last night. So unless HSL is the CL he was not recruited last night.

I was torn on revealing this because I still wanted to be able to protect someone tonight if we are not successful in lynching the CL today, but I felt that revealing this now is more beneficial for us than waiting.

The Greater Good.

I have a class type thing that might go all day, so I might not be around much. I haven't read the full thread yet, either, so I'm answering a roll call if one was started.

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It means precisely what I said.
Yes.
I didn't say that.
Fear not, I will do my best to prevent (collective) you from lynching anyone I know is a townie.

-I did not make any role calls (regardless of accusation to the contrary), I only started one roll call, and I was one of the ones to advocate for dropping those as a method of investigation.

-I believe you should be checking with mchack about "firm contributions". Certain types of firmness won't get you anywhere with me, Flub. Except maybe impressed, depending on circumstances.

-The none bolded votes were to emphasize the ridiculous nature of the particular argument I put forth at the time, and to indicate my lack of belief in said argument. All of this was explained on Day 1.

-And now you're just quoting me. So...did you choose to define random as a clue to the nature of your vote here?

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Liar! The bolded section contains no misspelled words!
Also, you already used seven across.

Also also, this part of my post is being facetious.

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-It should be obvious that my RVS votes on Sage and Hunter were not serious.
-The initial vote on Lift was not serious (and I explained why in Post 132), but then his commentary turned the vote serious (which I indicated in post 163).
-The non-votes on Sage and Trent were never serious (nor even actual votes), and I clarified my thinking on them when I realized that people didn't actually follow my meaning.

I have posted about Hunter's play, and you can follow the sequence of it in posts 152, 176, 189, 238, 284, and 326. 326 also includes when I was reconsidering my Lift vote.

While yes, not all of my votes have the reasons in the posts where I first voted, I stand by the sentiment that I've indicated which of my votes are serious and that I've provided reasoning for each of my votes.

Doesn't need to. Some things rest in a fine balance, and that balance tipped toward Hunter by the time I moved my vote.

Nonsense. My votes have been placed according to my suspicions (or my whim, when I didn't have any real suspicions), and if you didn't find my reasoning clear on any of my votes, then why didn't you ask? If any of my votes were unclear to you (beyond what other people have questioned), then why didn't you ask me about them?

Lies. Blatant lies. The only vote where I didn't at least some kind of explain before (or when) posting the vote was when I voted Lift for being the only person who hadn't responded to the roll call by that point (Post 109). By the time the vote turned serious (with Lift's Post 110), I had my reasoning for the vote in my very next post (Post 113).

I have both offered opinions without being asked AND been proactive in soliciting opinions from others.

I did the math; it was true a statement. Even if I badly wanted to lynch you as my life's last request, the votes simply didn't exist to make it happen. Fully half of the player base explicitly said they weren't interested in lynching you (You, Dedo, Trent, and Lift). Technically, maybe you didn't say you weren't lynching yourself (I think you did, but I didn't double check), but I feel comfortable assuming you wouldn't have self-voted.

Yes, I didn't make the time to reread you before Hunter self-hammered, which is (mostly) my fault. I didn't even try to rush it because of life and because if you'd left anything obvious behind to indicate you were the CL, someone would have noticed it before the last few hours before deadline. You simply weren't going to be lynched by that point on Day 1.

A better question is this: why are you using lies to cast shade at me?

It would be (and was) the first vote on the field, and it wasn't going to lynch anyone at all unless at 3 more people piled on AND none of us got off to avoid the lynch. Additionally, placing my vote might encourage others to place theirs, which might also provide an avenue of discussion if, horror of horrors, no power roles decide to out themselves to start a discussion!!

Why should I have waited without placing a vote? Am I somehow unable to listen and move my vote if someone else gives a good reason for me to put my vote elsewhere?

Let me demonstrate what I can do if someone says something that shows maybe I should vote for a particular player:

Vote HSL.

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And now my class has started, so I need to step out for awhile.

Why was that needed? I doubt there will be a counter-claim to this, so I'll assume you are telling the truth about being the alarmist, but why did you feelt he need to step out and out yourself like that? Neither you nor HSL were under and actual pressure at the moment, or anyone else for that matter. Why come out?

I have a few more things to add to this but that'll have to wait until later when I get home from work, so I can have more time to write.


I'm unable to go through your big post, since I'm in the office but did you see trent's post before you posted?