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This game makes me smile.

@yogs - do you sport a turban? ;-)


Vote JMich ...that Horrible Human Person thing....
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JMich: Don't forget to unvote before voting someone else people, your following votes are not counted (as seen by bookwyrm's vote in post 35).
And if you vote without unvoting often, it may be seen as an attempt to gain sympathy without harming the one you try to move your vote to.
oopsie thank you

unvote
vote rwarehall
@Sage: Dess is fine.

Unvote medamiedo, vite Lifthrasil Only a thief would sympathize with another thief. It is a code of a Thief. Clearly scum. Also, killed RVS.
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medamiedo: vote: flubbucket

lift why did you ask book who they would vig?
Because he said he had not enough vig-shots. Which means, that there are more persons he would vig than he has shots. Now this is a typical, IMO stupid Bookwyrm soft-claim. It can be read as a claim to be the Vig (I don't have enough vig shots can be read as implying that he has a vig shot) but having zero vig-shots would also fulfill the 'not enough' statement. Bookwyrm has done that is the past, throwing out an ambigous sentence which can be read as a soft-claim, but can also be re-defined as harmless banter, if necessary.
He has done this as town, 'catching' other townies with this method. I.e. it was meant as a trap, but the only one who got caught in that trap was me, who was also a townie in that game. Which is why I think it's a stupid move. A 'trap' which only leads to the mislynch of oneself or of another townie is not a good move.
But I think he has also done this as scum. But I would have to check back through all games we have played together to be sure. In any case I'm with RWare in that I don't like this soft-claim play. Therefore I asked Bookwyrm to elaborate on it, but he only retreated to a trivial solution (killing everyone but oneself). So, I don't like Bookwyrm's play but since he has done so as town in the past, this play doesn't mean he's scum. It doesn't mean he's town either, since as scum he would try to replicate his town play as closely as possible.

Coming to yogsloth: bloodthirsty as always. Only this time your not calling for lynches, but you are announcing intended night-kills. So, are you claiming to have a nightkill power? And a multiple one at that? What do you want to achieve with this open admission of being scum. Apart from:

vote yogsloth

of course. Please explain how this claim to be able to nightkill someone is supposed to help town, if you are town. If you are scum, however, by all means continue to threaten everyone.
And @HSL: yes, I am fishing. For scum.
I am going outside in the dark in my underpants to attempt to make a splice. If you don't hear from me in a day or two you should replace me due to electrocution.

I hate to deny yogsloth the kill but no TV or Internet is not a world I can live in anymore .

#firstworldproblemsaretheworst
EBWOP: Vote: Lifthrasil

For...reasons. Flub, if you get electrocuted, I am taking your stash of those "scientific" magazines. The clean ones.
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medamiedo: vote: flubbucket

lift why did you ask book who they would vig?
(snip)
Therefore I asked Bookwyrm to elaborate on it, but he only retreated to a trivial solution (killing everyone but oneself).
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Lifthrasil: Because he said he had not enough vig-shots.
I do not think you have really given me a reason here?

you have stated what triggered your question and restated your question but not the purpose of your question which is what I was asking about.

if the claim is nai according your meta on book then what did you hope to gain from your line of inquiry and how did you expect or want book to respond?


@flubb why are you posting ridiculous non-game-related things?

@dess why are you trying to prolong rvs if rvs is over? why do you dislike that lift killed rvs?

@cristi why does this game make you smile?
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Lifthrasil: [...] Coming to yogsloth: bloodthirsty as always. Only this time your not calling for lynches, but you are announcing intended night-kills. So, are you claiming to have a nightkill power? And a multiple one at that? [...]
[emphasis added]

Did he really? The only one he specifically mentioned as his first NK choice is . He said he'd kill [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_47_it_tastes_like_chicken_you_wont_believe_its_flavorless/post29]me and f first, and even said he'd make [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_47_it_tastes_like_chicken_you_wont_believe_its_flavorless/post36]Bookwyrm627 kill himself first. Now, I agree with Bookwyrm627 that yogsloth's "kill you" first slot is a tad overcrowded, none of them necessarily qualify as NKs.


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Lifthrasil: [...] but he only retreated to a trivial solution (killing everyone but oneself). [...]
Not sure I see the problem with his trivial solution. What did you want/expect him to do? Come out and say he's the Vigilante?
You question (and suspect?) yogsloth for openly proclaiming he's got a night-killing power as not being helpful to town, yet you're discontent with Bookwyrm627 not doing it?

Which brings me to this.

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Lifthrasil: [...] And @HSL: yes, I am fishing. For scum.
Are you?


Now to get caught up with everything else.
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medamiedo: you have stated what triggered your question and restated your question but not the purpose of your question which is what I was asking about.
I wondered whether Bookwyrm had anyone specific in mind. So I asked. That's usually the best way to get an aswer, when you wonder about something, you know? And if Bookwyrm had had someone specific in mind the next, very interesting, question would have been: why? What possible reason can there be so early on Day 1 to select some specific persons as vig-targets. But Bookwyrm didn't point out someone specific, just 'everybody'. So the follow-up question is moot. The second purpose of the question was to cut RVS short and start the serious interaction and talking. Which succeeded nicely.

@HSL: yes, of course you're right and I'm wrong. Yog ONLY claimed one Night-Kill choice. The other instances were just 'kill'. But with the wording, while we are already nit-picking, was I shall kill you. Not we will kill you. Not I will lynch you. But I shall kill. That still implies some kind of killing power. But be that as it may, already claiming one night-kill on Day one is too much.

About Bookwyrm: I don't have a problem with the trivial solution. I have a problem with the kind-of soft claim in the first place. It's useless. Apart from maybe as a conversation starter, but it's a dangerous one. For me early soft-claims fall into the same category as promoting no-lynch on Day 1: not a good idea for town.
lift could you link me to some of your scumgames and towngames please?
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Lifthrasil: Because he said he had not enough vig-shots.
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medamiedo: I do not think you have really given me a reason here?

you have stated what triggered your question and restated your question but not the purpose of your question which is what I was asking about.

if the claim is nai according your meta on book then what did you hope to gain from your line of inquiry and how did you expect or want book to respond?

@flubb why are you posting ridiculous non-game-related things?

@dess why are you trying to prolong rvs if rvs is over? why do you dislike that lift killed rvs?

@cristi why does this game make you smile?
Is there something wrong with posting ridiculous non-game related things? Part of the enjoyment of playing Mafia games is often the humor involved, it certainly makes me smile. Now if all someone did the whole game was be the class clown I would suspect they were trying to hide behind the humor, but I don't have an issue with anyone's humor at this point (I actually look forward to it).

*tickles medamiedo with a feather* :-P
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medamiedo: lift could you link me to some of your scumgames and towngames please?
Just check the admin thread. There should be links to all the GoG games and Lift has been a regular player.
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Lifthrasil: About Bookwyrm: I don't have a problem with the trivial solution. I have a problem with the kind-of soft claim in the first place. It's useless. Apart from maybe as a conversation starter, but it's a dangerous one. For me early soft-claims fall into the same category as promoting no-lynch on Day 1: not a good idea for town.
The party has to start somewhere, and I'm willing to stir the pot to start the ball rolling before the clock ticks down. If there is no party, then there is no after party. If there is no after party, then where are Sage and Flub going to get their fix?

I got tired of trying to mix some metaphors before I finished the first sentence.

RVS Is great, but it doesn't catch scum.
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trentonlf: You can't fake being Butterscotch Town, to try would be sacralige!

Yog's was wanting to kill JMich N1, I just wanted to know the method he was planning on using so I could juxtapose it with my ideas from past games ;-)
*remembers the human pretzels; shivers*



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Sage103082: Hello, Hyper. You are so wrong. I am the prettiest princess. [...]
Dear Sage, you may be the one with the long, golden hair, but Vote Count disproves you. I will, however, let you wear the crown; no doubt it'll look a lot better on you. ;-)


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Sage103082: [...] And each game is a new game and new way for players to play. [...]
While true, to a certain extent, I assume you didn't follow the last game, hence are missing some context regarding my exchanges with Bookwyrm627.



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Bookwyrm627: [...] My lynch will be slightly different since I am, of course, town. [...]
Of course.


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Bookwyrm627: [...] Vote Yogsloth.
Heh.



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RWarehall: I'm serious about my displeasure with "tricky" or possibly "false" claims like that one. I don't believe actual townies should be playing such games as it just creates an unnecessary and not very useful distraction. Of course Yogsloth may have one-upped Bookwyrm now... [...]
Curious, are there cases where a distraction is actually "necessary" and/or "very useful" to town? I'm asking in the context of "something that serves as a diversion/deviation, interruption; or obstacle" definition of the word "distraction".



I could use a bump, please.
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HypersomniacLive: I could use a bump, please.
You could? Why?
Bumping either way.