trentonlf: Is my opinion on you firm, no it can be changed if I was convinced. I am honestly trying to figure this out so town can win. I need to see how people react or what they say so I can gauge the situation. I don't discount that anyone at this point can be scum, to do so would be foolish.
It can? Not the impression I got, especially after the way you opened D3, and continued to comment/argue. The things I have from late D2 are about you, something about RWarehall, perhaps something about Sage103082 (based on possible association), and I haven't come around to properly rereading Lifthrasil to see if anything reads differently Today. Would any of it convince you? Given that they're about you and your stronger town-reads? Of course, they pale in comparison to the situation JMich created, but still.
What I managed to type while waiting to see if JMich would oblige any of us with some sort of reaction, is following:
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#601: I know that this will have probably everyone jump on me, but this post brought back really bad memories from game #40 where scum-RWarehall did the same thing to town-adaliabooks, and got him mislynched. If you don't believe me, go check for yourselves. In and of itself, it's not really much, but it stood out to me.
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#576: I find the strong wording, and confidence it shows, interesting, to say the least. Not only is trentonlf certain that scum-Bookwyrm627 would have put the blame on yogsloth, but wholeheartedly at that. Before the reveal of the N2 results, the second argument he makes in support of this one, should he be town, begged the question - was trentonlf reading Bookwyrm627's reaction this way because he actually thinks a reaction like Lifthrasil's in the matter is "a total scum move", or was he using his scum-read on Lifthrasil to label such a reaction as "a total scum move", hence put Bokkwyrm627 further into the town pile and Lifthrasil into the scum one? But seeing that Bookwyrm627 flipped town, I now wonder if it wasn't simply a matter of trentonlf knowing all along that both are town, and just used this narrative to give his "reads' towm-legitimacy. More so since, imo, that last statement, is a bit hypocritical - while he didn't wholeheartedly put the blame on Dessimu, the wording suggest that the blame lies with Dessimu, and he too is a dead townie that can't defend himself.
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#585: I find his reaction when presenting his reasons a tad too strong, given that with the exception of medamiedo's post #41, she consistently listed four people as her scum suspects, and her tendency to use over-confident wording when doing so. He also seems a bit too eager to dismiss the value of wagons/votes progression while still going on - perhaps to underplay his action of leaving the flubbucket wagon (which turns out was a scum one) quite inopportunely?
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#561: he replies to cristigale's post #557 selectively and a bit evasively - he doesn't really address the potential flubbucket/JMich connection that cristigale brings up. Now, he did say he was suspecting cristigale since D1, but ihe was suspecting me too, yet was responsive to my questions.
He opens Today with quite the certainty that it's either a JMich/me or Lifthrasil/me scum pair left, though Lifthrasil's now not all that suspect anymore. And no-one's asking what changed his mind overNight. As is no-one asking what makes JMich one of his prime/preferred suspects, when he practically didn't even exist on D1 for trentonlf (zero interactions or comments about him), and up until Yesterday he was allegedly willing to vote JMich only because he was in the "not particularly active" crowd (
post #516). If he suspected JMich about something he never said, and as I already pointed out above, he evaded cristigale's question about flubbucket/JMich, even though flubbucket was one of his suspects since D1. Note, this is not in defence of JMich.
That is what I got down before replying to your post #679.
What I wanted to ask you is what makes you so sure that no bussing took place on flubbucket's wagon. You think there was no value for scum in distancing and gaining town-cred if the lynch had gone through?
Regarding Sage103082 (and you in a way), it was more the way flubbucket answered my question about your votes, avoiding to be specific as to why her over you. And while medamiedo thought it less likely that he could have been distancing (sadly never explained why), I'm not ruling it out. Reason is that while she mostly comes across as the familiar Sage103082, I've played like one or two games with her, and a long time ago at that, but IIRC, she was doing the notes thing pretty convincingly even in he game she was scum.
Add to it that her question to cristigale and Bookwyrm627 about giving ideas to scum to keep me around pinged me as potential distancing (from being considered as part of the scum team) or potentially laying the ground for some WIFOM, and allowing her to push for my mislynch should I still be alive D3.
I also wanted to ask Lifthrasil what suspicions did he see Bookwyrm627 getting D2. Because, my impression was quite different.
And this is where I was with my thoughts before JMich claimed.
My left hand has gotten very tired, and I need to get some rest as I've got to get back to my studying tomorrow morning. So, goodnight, and thanks everyone for the wishes regarding my exams, and everything else; much appreciated.
