Sorry, I missed that post.

That seems to be the case. It seems that everyone (or at least too much) people got pineapple-something pizza and given how pretty much everyone is Vanilla around here being visited doesn't look too plausible.

Trying to catch up with very tired eyes and a pretty mash brain (but at least the meeting was productive, and I managed to get quite a bit of work done before and afterwards); have to reply to an email that just came in, so catching up and posting may take a while.

Titanic museum is full of interesting pictures and displays, sadly they allow no pictures to be taken.

Ripley's believe it or not is always a neat place to visit, it's amazing how many unusual people and things are in this world and you only see a small portion of it in a place like that.

Did not make the butterfly garden today as we ran out of time, so went on some paddleboats and did some miniature golf instead.'

Tomorrow we plan on going to the zoo and then to an amusement park on Wednesday. I'm pretty sure I will be exhausted come Thursday LOL



I had a pineapple and black olive pizza last night (YUCK) and I am town Vanilla as well. It seems to me that the pizza is more flavor like the names. It is odd that everyone seems to be vanilla besides flub and Krypsyn so far (at least from claims). I DON'T WANT A MASS CLAIM, I just find it odd that every town death so far is a vanilla player and everyone who has claimed is claiming vanilla too.

Question for everyone, Did you get a flavor PM last night receiving pizza?

Pineapple + onion through the window.

Ironically in RL I really dislike pineapple on anything, but especially pizza. Pretty much the only way I like eating it is fresh, in which case it's great.

I'm going to bed. We should around 20 more hours or Daylight so hopefully the day won't be over when I wake up.

If that happens I want to share a weird but possible scenario for everyone to consider just in case I don't wake up.

Even though I don't trust flub's claim 100% I do trust his reads about Dessimu and Hunter.

With all the dead Town Vanillas so far and not a single lucky shot at scum I'm starting to suspect something else. There may be no anti-Town left at all (less likely) or 1 more SK (more likely).

We have discussed the first scenario some time ago where random people die each night to keep the deception going and Town's actual goal is to no lynch. I find this less likely since the people that died first were among the more observant, analytical and strong players. It seems unlikely for that to be a random result. Also, tremendously bad luck for the only non-town player.

Scenario 2 is the more plausible one. 2 SKs who's ability to perform the night kill shifts from one to another each night until there is only one. Then they get to NK each night. That would explain why we had just 1 NK on N1.

If flub keeps feeding you with Town reads and you reach a stage where 5 people (including him) are dead and there wasn't a single scum flip until then - lynch him for he is most likely the second SK.

If we lynch scum today or he gets a scum read that is confirmed by the lynch forget everything I said. All of this is just a contingency plan for a very special case. It shouldn't be the primary focus the assumption that there are scum here should still come first but if things start to shift towards the other end consider this possibility.


@flub, no offence :)

By the way I think if Leonard is lynched and flips scum you should check CSPVG and vice versa. If Town - cristi / me / trent / HSL. Just make sure to post your target before nightfall.

Also possible would be some neutral survivors. That would have some interesting flavour.

Pfff. The bolded word is supposed to be "left".

I remember going to a Ripley's place one, a long, long time ago (in a galaxy far far...). The thing I remember most clearly was one display which had a video playing of a man doing crazy things with his tounge, along with a mirror for you to examine your own efforts. Thing was, if you continued on a little ways you went back around the the other side of the mirror. Except on that side, you could look through at the people on the other side trying to do the tongue exercises.

This means there is about 18 hours left.

I see that Leonard03's sitting on L-1, and we had a few claims.

Reread Leonard03, not sure I see much more than what I already said yesterday about/to him.
There are three things standing out:
- One is that he said to not like quick-hammers (post #183), yet seemed to downplay CSPVG's one (post #523). His comment in post #183 ends with teasing Krypsyn over the matter, so not sure if the whole thing's a joke. But that could then be interpreted as him being in favour of, or indifferent to, quick-hammers; doesn't really sound as a better case if true.
- Second, he seemed quite surprised with dedoporno's vote on CSPVG (post #508) even though dedoporno had made it quite clear in a couple of posts earlier that he didn't like CSPVG's quick-hammer. And this is not the first or only thing he missed. One might think that he's missing/overlooking things because a different thread is messing with his brain.
- Third, from everything I said in my post #525, the only thing he had to comment on was to remind me in what game he was the Town Vigilante. Perhaps the intent and purpose was to explain his play in that game by pointing out that it was his very first game here. Not sue how much weight to put on this, as it's my understanding that he was not really inexperienced when he first joined here.

I don't know what to make of his vote on CSPVG. flubbucket suggested that he might be a Mafia Goon trying to save his buddy with the power-role. Is his vote distancing from CSPVG after the above was said, and considered by others? Is it him trying to get CSPVG wagon rolling again, because it's not CSPVG that has the power-role if they're scum-buddies? Is it a genuine attempt to save his life because he's telling the truth? Leonard03 replied to CSPVG that he was trying to make a point (post #612), but I can't say I see what that point is. Perhaps he'd like to elaborate?

I'm too tired to do the other re-reads I wanted to; I did use AF to get all of CSPVG's, trentonlf's and dedoporno's posts, but I just don't have the energy to read through them right now, and ended up closing the tabs; sorry. I'll try to do it tomorrow before the deadline.

I'll sign off on a lighter tone - yogsloth must be as big on pizza with pineapple as he is on flavour; either that, or pizza with pineapple was some great hit back in the US of the 1930s.
I also got one through the window (wonder if the pizza boy is training in discus throwing), pineapple + something else I don't remember and am too lazy to check what my PM says.

I have to get some rest now; it's very late, and tomorrow will also be a long day.

Pre-post refresh - I see more posts, but really can't keep my eyes open to read them.

Mine was pineapple and pepperoni, hope that poor delivery boy got a good tip.

Like CSPVG, I also built a paper clip model on N1, the Colussus of Rhodes

I'll explain why I didn't really make a deal out of this, which should also explain why I was surprised by dedo's vote.
I didn't really see it as a quick hammer. Yes, he we went from L-2 to lynch in two posts so the hammer was quick. I my mind however a quick hammer is hammering before everyone has a chance to talk about things. In the case of Krypsyn and me, he hammered right after my claim, which didn't give anyone else a chance to reconsider based on it, or any time to discuss it. In the case of CSPVG, all the talking had already been done. Lifthrasil had claimed, your vote, HSL, didn't require any new discussion. Therefore it wasn't, IMO, a quick hammer.

The only other thing you said to me in that post was that I was missing or overlooking something to do with flub. I didn't see the point in just blandly denying it, as that gets a little tiresome for everyone.

The point I was trying to make is that I'm not in any way trying to save CSPVG from being lynched. It was said a couple times by a couple different people that I was trying to "protect" some mafia power role, and the consensus seemed to be that it was CSPVG. I was trying to show that I'm not doing that, which could be called distancing, I suppose. You can bet it's an attempt to save my life though, because with my lynch mafia get's one step closer to winning, and we, town, one step closer to losing.


I'm done for the night too.

#1 Interesting theory, we better be pretty certain there is no 3 person scum team left, if there is, Tomorrow is likely lylo.

#2 Do you believe that Leonard/CPSVG is clear if the other flips town?

That is still there lol. I knew what it was when I saw it and refrained, but my oldest daughter did try it. Being the good father that I am I let her do it :-D