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warchickensteam: Gog comes with 9.5 installed yeah?
Yes, but it's the basic version of the patch. You can install 9.5 plus or 9.4 plus right over it and some things will change.

BTW, when i played it with 9.5 patch the Saulocept artifact is not giving the extra xp when your awarded 3 or more.
I never touched that at all so it must be some other bug...
Post edited July 27, 2016 by wesp5
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Bethezer: Althought the "normal" GOG version is already patched for bug.
What bug? Some more info about changes made by gog team is needed.
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Bethezer: Althought the "normal" GOG version is already patched for bug.
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vorob: What bug? Some more info about changes made by gog team is needed.
Non-native English speakers don't always specify plurals correctly. I believe OP meant "bugs". Regardless of what he meant, there are about a million (some hyperbole here) bugs in the unmodified game. If you want to know which ones, then read the patch notes.

I also should point out that the OP was talking about WESP's fine work, *not* the GOG team's.
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vorob: What bug? Some more info about changes made by gog team is needed.
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alcaray: Non-native English speakers don't always specify plurals correctly. I believe OP meant "bugs". Regardless of what he meant, there are about a million (some hyperbole here) bugs in the unmodified game. If you want to know which ones, then read the patch notes.

I also should point out that the OP was talking about WESP's fine work, *not* the GOG team's.
No, I just ate the 's'. :D And yes - bugs, cause like you said - the latest, official, version of the game is barely playable.
And yes - GOG is using Wesp's version of the patch, minus Plus patch and changes it brings.
Post edited August 20, 2016 by Bethezer
I've got nothing against fan-made patches, but i think they should mention that on their page.

I played VtMB on release, so there was no fan-made stuff, can i get some more info on Wesp work integrated in game? What version is that? Only bug fixing or some un-official content was included?
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Bethezer: True Patch Gold:
http://www.moddb.com/games/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/downloads/true-patch-gold-final
This one is, as Wind_Falcon said, 'an alternative' for purists - this patch fixes the bugs but does not change the game. No additional stuff, only what was there to begin with, only fixed.
Also i'm interested in compatibility, since GOG release is not vanilla, but updated with Wesp patch, how other patches will do? Are they compatible?
Post edited August 21, 2016 by vorob
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vorob:
Well... the last offcial version was 1.2, and now we have 9.6 made by Wesp. GOG version is without the 'Plus Concent' so it's mostly just bug fixes. I am not 100% sure, but there shouldn't be any real restored content, but I hope someone more knowledgeable can confirm this. Then again - this would be mostly things that wasn't finish when the game was released, not something purely made by fans.

The second question is more towards Wind_Falcone, I just added to the first post what he recommended. It's hard to say though if already fixed version wouldn't act strangly to another 'fixing'.

Then again - this would be mostly things that wasn't finish when the game was released, not something purely made by fans.
Thx, that's exactly, what i wanted to know :)
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haydenaurion: You a member of the modding community? Much thanks for the patches and mods if so.

Can you answer this question I posted earlier for me? https://www.gog.com/forum/vampire_the_masquerade_series/vtmb_unofficial_patch_plus_restored_disciplines
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Bethezer: What? NO! No, no, no, I'm just a fan of the game, which in turn they made enjoyable. And because there is usually a topic like tihs, I posted it here. I hope people will come here and add their findings to the list because, ironically, I'm generaly not a fan of modding games... but VtM:B is one of exceptions - unofficial patch is really a given. Plus conents, clan mods etc. - maybe not, although people not only praise them, but really recommend them. But unoff. is a must.

And sadly I can't answer your question except that people generally recommend going with Plus patch, even on first playthrough.
I just wish GOG.com would add an option to install either version of the unofficial patch, both Basic and a possibility of also installing the PLUS content in some way, like when you have to install it manually yourself you can also choose, at the same time making it clear what the differences are on the store page maybe (or somewhere else?). Also I imagine there could also be 2 backup versions, in the Backups & Goodies section maybe for example, to signify and reflect this.

Because seeing as you purchased the game on GOG already, and considering it containing the Unofficial Patch BASIC (which is of course fantastic btw, booo at the inferior steam version), I don't see why it is not possible and you should still have to go through the trouble of fishing the SAME patch on the internet (connection needed) to be able to access the plus contents of that same patch version. It's a bit of a pain in the ass, plus after installing the PLUS content, the game kind of oddly seperated/duplicated and disconnected and is no longer interactive with the GOG Galaxy client, otherwise works fine of course, just the game timer doesn't work for it anymore.

So I just think that these slight imperfections could be simply ruled out by offering the FULL options covered by the patch, since it really is a pain having to fish for it if you want to play the PLUS version content too only to be installing it again, and it is the same patch. Also DRM free, connection non-reliance should be a paramount service, what with the backups and all too. So the BASIC installation is there but should go along with the optional decision if you want the PLUS version, just like there is when you manually install that same patch. I'm just saying it makes little sense to me it not being there clearly optionally available somehow, forcing you to hunt it down if you did not know this and patch twice what could be an already present option upon your first install with GOG.
Otherwise great job having the patch there, just that I wasted some time being unaware of the two alternative installs, when both options could be present like they are when you have to manually apply the patch. Don't see a reason why not, since you might not have the patch DLed and at hand, and might want the PLUS content, the UP being as popular as it already is anyway, that possibility should be integrated since it belongs together with both the patching alternatives.

PS: BTW I love how the VTM Bloodlines (Legacy) installs along to always have a pure only official patched version simultaneously available on the side, that was a fantastic great idea!
Post edited October 04, 2016 by DementiaPraecoXtra
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DementiaPraecoXtra: I just wish GOG.com would add an option to install either version of the unofficial patch, both Basic and a possibility of also installing the PLUS content in some way, like when you have to install it manually yourself you can also choose, at the same time making it clear what the differences are on the store page maybe (or somewhere else?). Also I imagine there could also be 2 backup versions, in the Backups & Goodies section maybe for example, to signify and reflect this.

Because seeing as you purchased the game on GOG already, and considering it containing the Unofficial Patch BASIC (which is of course fantastic btw, booo at the inferior steam version), I don't see why it is not possible and you should still have to go through the trouble of fishing the SAME patch on the internet (connection needed) to be able to access the plus contents of that same patch version. It's a bit of a pain in the ass, plus after installing the PLUS content, the game kind of oddly seperated/duplicated and disconnected and is no longer interactive with the GOG Galaxy client, otherwise works fine of course, just the game timer doesn't work for it anymore.

So I just think that these slight imperfections could be simply ruled out by offering the FULL options covered by the patch, since it really is a pain having to fish for it if you want to play the PLUS version content too only to be installing it again, and it is the same patch. Also DRM free, connection non-reliance should be a paramount service, what with the backups and all too. So the BASIC installation is there but should go along with the optional decision if you want the PLUS version, just like there is when you manually install that same patch. I'm just saying it makes little sense to me it not being there clearly optionally available somehow, forcing you to hunt it down if you did not know this and patch twice what could be an already present option upon your first install with GOG.
Otherwise great job having the patch there, just that I wasted some time being unaware of the two alternative installs, when both options could be present like they are when you have to manually apply the patch. Don't see a reason why not, since you might not have the patch DLed and at hand, and might want the PLUS content, the UP being as popular as it already is anyway, that possibility should be integrated since it belongs together with both the patching alternatives.

PS: BTW I love how the VTM Bloodlines (Legacy) installs along to always have a pure only official patched version simultaneously available on the side, that was a fantastic great idea!
I can understand that, thought you still need net connection for getting the game itself, so, at the same time, you could get the patch as well, and back both up... Still - it would really be a good thing to add it already, maybe even give the choice in the installer, with proper desrcription too. But there comes the question if 'selling the plus version' wouldn't create law problems. Now they are selling fanpatched game, but those are mostly bug fixes. But actual restored/added content? Someone from GOG should comment on it, if this is merly a speculation on my part or there could be some truth to it. Law can sometimes seem illogical, taking into account how far one must go to prevent a sue for even stupidiest of things.
I don't think GOG will ever get into the business of pushing mods to their customers. If they ever did, then GOG customers would expect GOG to take responsibility for how the mods perform. I think their support staff is busy enough right now.
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alcaray: I don't think GOG will ever get into the business of pushing mods to their customers. If they ever did, then GOG customers would expect GOG to take responsibility for how the mods perform. I think their support staff is busy enough right now.
Does the PLUS content of the UP really contain that much modifications to qualify as mod more than patch? As opposed to "restored content" I can't imagine that counting as some kinda illegal promotion of added content, I don't know this of course. Yes, it's true that there is an option to install an alternative Gangrel Warform offered in the PLUS right now (or does it even count into PLUS? maybe it's separate.) and all that stuff, which maybe should be a standalone mod and not really presented in the UP patch, since not sure if that still qualifies as patching. But as far as restored content goes, I don't see how that would be getting into modding business. I imagine it'd be a question of the form of patch/mod arrangement. A bit of rearrangement and maybe it'd be doable? If it is anyhow illegal in the first place.

But I would really like to see that option available if it'd be legally possible, since the game seemed more stable too post PLUS "re-patch", for me at least, oddly enough. And purely for pragmatic purposes as well maybe? I mean I know I can download the patch myself right when I installed it if I bought it online, right.... But I am talking into the future looking. The GOG version will probably update itself as the UP is updated, I assume? Only always minus the PLUS version option? Still a bit shame the PLUS version can't be a part of that. Would be nice, and useful to some, not having to go online everytime and get the same patch again just to get the updated plus contents option also.

Of course no idea if this is any legal question, it's just my user perspective. And as far as mod business goes, well Steam for example has it's Workshop. So it's not impossible to have mod officially supported I guess.
Post edited October 06, 2016 by DementiaPraecoXtra
"Does the PLUS content of the UP really contain that much modifications to qualify as mod more than patch?"

Any is greater than zero, and greater than zero is too much.

-edit- If you want mods you should take responsibility for choosing and applying them.
Post edited October 06, 2016 by alcaray
So I searched online far as a patch goes prior to coming here and I stumbled upon some texture mods in another subforum here from 3 years ago.

gog .com/forum/general/vampire_bloodlines_unofficial_patch_update/page1

(minus the space after gog)
Are those texture mods still valid or is one of the patches from the first page here (and is this thread not the one I am linking) should be what I should stick to?
About the plus patch. Many of the restorations are based on speculations of myself, because nobody really knows what exactly Troika planned to do with all the found content. Therefore it should be an option! But the GOG version will of course be updated with future versions of the UP...
Hi, for anyone interested, I'm not 100% positive, by running Bloodlines with just "vampire.exe" doesn't use UP data and fixes.
Also, if a mod creates extra directory for itself, like Antitribu, it should not conflict with basic version or UP, it'll just require a different shortcut to run.

Lastly, for a mod that overwrites basic game data when installing, it should be possible to just install it in a subfolder and create specific shortcut for it.
Post edited October 24, 2016 by Rndl99