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Less motion blurr is not a benefit.

Thats why cinematic movies work with 24 fps just fine. I've seen video done with 15 fps and it still looked great.

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Anyway apparently I havent installed the patch correctly or something ? Ran into all kinds of strange problems, so I made a full reinstall. Suddenly many things are different. For example I can no longer make a hunter run ? The option in character creation is gone. Also the option to skip the introduction cinematic has suddenly moved to the far right.

So since yesterday evening I finally played 11.5 through on one of my favorite character builds - Malkavian, history Occult Nut. I have now passed the Werewolf and thats when the game gets kind of boring. The Werewolf was as buggy as ever, by the way, but still got it first try this time.

Overall the fights are harder than ever. Bach totally bugged out repeatedly. Got hurt from the first two, three bullets, then turned invul and just stood around. On the third try it suddenly worked as normal - I got him stunned with Dementation 3, then could execute him with the Ingram MAC-10 machine pistols.

I also saw that melee weapons stack now. Thats a huge change because you get a lot more money now from selling melee weapon stacks.

I also pumped Haggle hard this time and for the first time ever got to Haggle 10. Managed to accumulate 13K. That required a lot of collecting of guns for selling though. I would estimate that the game became twice as long because of that. It was purely for fun, there is no lack of money in VtMB unless you play poorly. And for checking if I got any dialogues with that. I didnt saw any though. Its sometimes hard to tell on a Malk though.

Noticed I had a lot of problems to move around on the initial grounds of the Society of Leopold. Has anything changed there ?

Oh and the Downtown area is now cluttered with all the corpses from the gang wars. Not very realistic ? Wouldnt the police etc move those away after a while ?

Corpses staying is fine in regular levels since those arent accessible afterwards anymore anyway.
Post edited August 03, 2025 by Geromino
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Geromino: For example I can no longer make a hunter run ? The option in character creation is gone.
That is weird. As long as you installed the plus patch, this option should always be there!

Overall the fights are harder than ever. Bach totally bugged out repeatedly. Got hurt from the first two, three bullets, then turned invul and just stood around.
I didn't make any fights harder. I did edit the Bach map, but sadly I don't remember why ;).

I also saw that melee weapons stack now. Thats a huge change because you get a lot more money now from selling melee weapon stacks.
That was the purpose behind the change. Some ranged builds can run out of mony fast!

Noticed I had a lot of problems to move around on the initial grounds of the Society of Leopold. Has anything changed there ?
Not that I know of. The first two maps haven't been touched in years according to dates.

Oh and the Downtown area is now cluttered with all the corpses from the gang wars. Not very realistic ? Wouldnt the police etc move those away after a while ?
Well, it's called the Word of Darkness ;)! But it is intended that all corpses stay only until you leave a map. So once you return they should be gone even downtown.
I made a full deinstall, deleted the directory of the game, reinstalled, then installed the plus patch.

The Windows version is 11, I have 32 GB RAM.

The patch file is "VTMBup115.9.exe", the ingame info says "Unofficial Patch 11.5".

During installation of the Patch, I clicked on the Plus Patch, but I didnt click on the extras as well.

Everything seems to work fine otherwise, just the option to play hunter doesnt show up.
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Geromino: Everything seems to work fine otherwise, just the option to play hunter doesnt show up.
Maybe it will be available once you finished the main game. I don't know how it was in 11.5.9, 11.5.19 is the latest!
Installing 11.5.19 made the option to play as a hunter return.

Didnt do a full reinstall.

Played the tutorial. Everything seemed fine.
Great :)!
I just found a bug.

So during the Fu Syndicate in Chinatown, this time saving Barbarus I realized that I could actually open the front door and fight the guards on my own and Barbarus wouldnt go horribly in my way, as usual, blocking me in places, killing the guard I'm currently draining, and all that jazz.

Unfortunately after I cleared the entrance and deleted the computers, Barbarus could be freed alright and everything, but the quest would not be properly resolved.

Btw Barbarus talked to me BEFORE I could use the key that dropped from the Mandarin that would free Barbarus from the prison.

Everything else progressed like normal, but I still have the quest entry that I should free Barbarus.
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Geromino: Everything else progressed like normal, but I still have the quest entry that I should free Barbarus.
That shouldn't be possible. The quest state is set once he asks you if you have been caught too! Did he not do that?
P.S.: I think I understand the problem now. He will never talk to you again which misses the end conditions. I fear I will have to force you to free him first as this looks to be the only solution.
Post edited August 13, 2025 by wesp5
Just to clarify, Barbarus is freed and no longer in his cell.

I got the thanks from Gary and, as a Nosferatu, got the Nosferatu haven from Gary.

I have finished Fu Syndicate and finished Giovanni and am currently again stuck at the Hollywood Ceremetary.

I still have the quest to free Barbarus though.
I still not know exactly why the quest stays open, because it is set to continue three times, but maybe that is the problem, so I will fix this in the next patch update.

P.S.: Just to be clear. What quest state is the quest stuck on? Is it "You have rescued Barabus from the Fu Syndicate. Find the payphone outside to get Gary's call." or "You have killed the Mandarin. You must locate Barabus and free him."?
Post edited August 14, 2025 by wesp5
Its "You have killed the Mandarin. You must locate Barbarus and free him."



P.s.: I just tried to recreate the conditions from an earlier save and failed.

I have killed the Mandarin in the room next to Barbarus cell and now cannot open the next door. I can only open Barbarus cell. So I cant proceed like last time, when I opened the door and killed all the guards and hacked the computers without Barbarus, only to then release him.

When I fought the Mandarin previously he was not in the usual place, in the room with Barbarus cell, but at the end of the corridor above, and I could open the regular door afterwards. Since this was a new release, I figured this has been changed in the new release, but now that I retried the mission, its back to how it was before.

Maybe I've played too long and this was the result of the usual memory leak ?
Post edited August 16, 2025 by Geromino
These doors are supposed to be locked, so whatever the reason was they were not, I will make sure they are next time.
Ok, so just to make sure I have things straight, I have three versions of the game. From what you're saying, I'm guessing it goes like this:
Legacy version: Original release game, no patches
Normal version: Game with Basic Patch
Unofficial Patch version: Game with Basic and Plus Patches

Is that correct?
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MathiasonProject: Ok, so just to make sure I have things straight, I have three versions of the game. From what you're saying, I'm guessing it goes like this:
Legacy version: Original release game, no patches
Normal version: Game with Basic Patch
Unofficial Patch version: Game with Basic and Plus Patches

Is that correct?
Yes.