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I have already requested a refund for my pre-order.

https://www.pcgamer.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-fires-lead-writer-brian-mitsoda-together-with-creative-director/
Glad I didn't preorder but removed it from my wishlist.
Why is he fired ? Same reason for Chris Avellone ?
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Dabner: Why is he fired ? Same reason for Chris Avellone ?
According to Outstar who works for Paradox now, no.
Post edited August 19, 2020 by wesp5
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Dabner: Why is he fired ? Same reason for Chris Avellone ?
No reason given.
I had no problems with the delay whatsoever, but this troubles me... probably cancelling my pre-order

*edit*: https://www.change.org/p/bloodlines-1-fans-bring-brian-mitsoda-back-on-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_24195610_en-US%3A4&recruiter=346901&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

A Petition for bringing Mitsoda back
Post edited August 19, 2020 by TheBadRandolph
People do get fired, from time to time. It might be a good idea to wait and hear what happened instead of making up stories. On the other hand, there might be personal and personnel reasons why we might not hear the story at all.
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alcaray: People do get fired, from time to time. It might be a good idea to wait and hear what happened instead of making up stories. On the other hand, there might be personal and personnel reasons why we might not hear the story at all.
I agree. Remember, Troika had a reputation of not being able to finish a product with often major changes being done late in the process. Perhaps this was repeating with Mr Mitsoda. I'm not saying it was just that it's possible. We don't really know what this means. The final product might be better or worse. What is better and worse? Bloodlines was an edgy product and it sounded from past reports that BL2 was being made more mainstream. Is that better or worse? I'd say worse but there are many that would say it's better. Is a technically good product that doesn't sell well good versus a shoddy production that does? It's an old story; the artist vesus the accountant.

Me, I don't ever pre-order and usually wait to buy a game for at least a year after release since it seems normal practice is to release a game and let the buyers do the bug testing. I wait for the one or two major patches that nearly always happen. Plus, I want to know what I am getting before I buy so I wait until I get a feel for what is really is. This game could be quite different from Bloodlines and still be a great game - there will never be another Bloodlines anyway - game companies don't have enough patience and integrity to pull that off. I'm just hoping for an enjoyable game and for there to be some consistency if they should recall any characters from Bloodlines. Redemption was very different from Bloodlines - a kill everything in sight game so not really an RPG - but it had a great story and was fun. I guess I'm just saying it'd be wise to wait and see.
Post edited August 21, 2020 by lordhoff
Aww, damnit. We can't get refunds on a pre-order can we? ...I should have learned my lesson by now :(
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salishna: Aww, damnit. We can't get refunds on a pre-order can we? ...I should have learned my lesson by now :(
yes you can get refunds on pre orders...You can even get a refund on a released game as long as you don't download it for 30 days.....Regarding your refund it will probably take some days since gog support seems to be a lot busy these months.
Post edited August 20, 2020 by alexandros050
What a waste. I canceled my preorder too.
I really don't like this...
I mean : will they try to create the game, from the "ground to the top" in less than few months ???
oh my.....
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salishna: Aww, damnit. We can't get refunds on a pre-order can we? ...I should have learned my lesson by now :(
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alexandros050: yes you can get refunds on pre orders...You can even get a refund on a released game as long as you don't download it for 30 days.....Regarding your refund it will probably take some days since gog support seems to be a lot busy these months.
Up to one year from when it was bought. I had a game that I bought past a year before downloading it (I have a large pool of bought but not yet played games) and it didn't work. GoG was like, too bad, fool! And I was like, too bad fool! This will mean I won't buy a game until I'm ready to play it which means you sell far fewer games.
Micro-transactions...... Cut content...... All rumors at this point. For me, it has gone from a pre-order (very easily refunded by GOG) to a wait and see type thing.
So glad I read all the comments, and I agree; sure, it may not be what we wanted because we all love the Bloodlines series, but making their wallets fatter, while driving out one of the key talents of this genre.... in the words of 'Nines' from the intro or first scene "THIS IS BULL$41T

here is a blow by blow link i found on You Tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd-nvCKbuKo
wow, you are as dense as they come........
Post edited August 23, 2020 by sataribus