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deeviusnz: So now you're now insulting other religions and claiming yours as somehow superior? Not cool.
Then you need to learn to read because i have never did that, in case you didn't know a Muslim CAN NOT be a Muslim unless he believe Judaism and Christianity are the same god previous books/religion

I said the guy who call himself a christian and bombed Oklahoma city does not present Christianity because it doesn't say bomb hospitals and kill kids, he was terrorists

If you have issue of me saying the bible have violent verses then you disagree with the Vatican and any academic person like me. saying a book have something that is already there is not an insult and i was just answering oddhermit question, I'm married to a christian woman mind you and my religion does allow it (I'm only allowed to marry a christian or a muslim or a jew women) Met my lovely wife in USA, I study here in the usa but I'm back to my country now since it's the summer :)
i have read the Quran plenty of times and there is no violent in it
I can understand saying that they're parables, made obsolete by other parts of the Quran, or not central to the doctrine, as most modern Christians do, but there's no way you've read the Quran several times and still think there's no violence in it. It certainly advocates killing apostates and disbelievers in a number of passages, as well as killing or harming women under a variety of circumstances.

There's a reason so many people think the book is violent and sexist - it is.
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AeonGrey: @Seph22

I'm confused. If it doesn't bother you and you supposedly don't care, why are you so grateful that they changed it? To thank them for it implies that you like the game better now that an element of your religion is not in it...which in turn implies that you like it less WITH that element. You're thanking them for being nice? So...what? You think that if they had left the texture as it is that that would somehow constitute them being "not nice"?
I have finished the game already and whether the carpet was changed or not did not effect or lower my enjoyment of this epic game, i said thanks to CDP because of their intentions not the removal of the carpet. why should i not be nice to those who are being nice toward my faith? i spoke out and said thanks out of my heart i didn't think of how/why or calculate it.
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Gidzin: Please enlighten me, I'm not hating on Muslims just hyperbolizing if (for example) Madonna wears a hypoticritally cross I must hate Madonna....just stating observation If some Muslims want to get offended at a prayer looking rug in the game then thats their interpretation and an afront to their fragile faith???
Some Muslims abuse their "laws" against prostitution by "marrying" their mates ...do their thing and atone for their "sin" by announcing "I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you" according to their "law". They get what they want, and are sanctified by their so called justification!! That's hypocracy!! We are not to "judge" (implication is to damnation)but we are to judge ourselves. I'm not condemning anyone, just exposing intents of some hearts!!

Your abuse of my statements and turning it into "hatred" is atypical of being overly offended and ignorently presumptuous. I'm not sure what your "religion" is but it seems far from loving. Salome
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Seph22: Salome is jews goodbye, not Islamic, it's Salam I was trying to be respectful but I thought it was spelled Shalom(MY INTENT WAS PEACE IN ARABIC NOTJewish SO I guess I'm just IGNORANT AFTER ALL!!

And again strike of another ignorant post i say stick to other things instead of talking about things you don't know about like islam, we can't get married and divorce as if nothing ever happened the law you say we abuse can not be abused by any muslim due how the rules are set about it which protect women under it.

THE JEST OF MY POST WAS "BROUHAHA" (MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING -Islamicish rug in a brothel) IF I CAN DISCERN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A ROCK STARS SHOCK FACTOR IRREVERENCE TO A TO CHRISTIAN SYMBOL AS NOTHING MORE THAN AN NON SYMBOLIC INSULT TO CHRISTIANDOM AND REALITY, THEN THE HYPERBOLE OF A PRAYER RUG IN A BROTHEL (REAL OR NOT) SHOULD BE EQUALLY UNOBTRUSIVE TO A DISCERNING DEVOUT MUSLIM!!

Marriage with the "intention of divorce" in advance is considered Haram which means the marriage is not acceptable to god

I AM WHOLLY IGNORANT(NOT AN AUTHORITY) EXCEPT FOR HEARSAY OF PEOPLE RETURNING FROM THE MIDDLE EAST AND REPORTING THE ABUSE OF BYPASSING ISLAMIC LAWS BY THEIR MARRYING THEIR HO'S WITH THE ILLUSTRATED EXAMPLE ABOVE.

The man have to be FAIR between his wifes 100% that's why most men marry only 1 because they fear being unable to be fair between each one

If she had a child the man have to support the kid+women for life even after a divorce unlike the west where a man can even deny DNA test and abandon both the mother and kid etc

and million other rule which i don't have to mention to a guy who talk crap about things and play expert when he lacks even the basics,

YOU CERTAINLY ARE READING INTO THIS WAY TO MUCH...I HAVEN'T DISPLAYED ANY CREDENTIALS TO QUALIFY AS AN EXPERT AND I DON'T DISQUALIFY YOUR IDEALISTIC EXPLANATION OF THE HOLYNESS OF MARRIAGE....YOUR CONFRONTATIONAL PREJUDICE ABOUT WESTERN VS EASTERN (GENERALIZATIONS) IS EVIDENT AND DOES NOT EXCLUDE THAT THE PRACTICE DOES EXISTS IN MANY MUSLIM COUNTRIES!!

Watch this then talk again more nonsense http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCxZ2hsIlvQ
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deoren: I think I read three pages worth of comments on this issue before my eyes glazed over. CDPR found an issue, and it's been "fixed". Let's all move on and either enjoy the game or not.

Speculating on what their intentions were doesn't serve anyone, so perhaps direct the question to their support/pr contacts and wait for an official response.

I'm just glad CDPR is standing behind their product and fixing issues that are reported. Kudos to them for that.
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shivnz: no, they found what SHOULD have been a non-issue, and changed it for the sake of political correctness.

you know, how like bioware found an issue of not everyone being gay in the first dragon age game, and 'fixed it'... did you applaud that too? or did you find it as silly and ridiculous as all examples of stupid political correctness - including this one.
No offense, but I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over this. However, I do want to clarify my original comment on my use of "issue".

By "issue", I'm referring to something that was considering a problem, for whatever reason. It was found (by someone) and fixed in the 1.2 patch.
Since when did this thread became a religious discussion?
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deeviusnz: So now you're now insulting other religions and claiming yours as somehow superior? Not cool.
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Seph22: I said the guy who call himself a christian and bombed Oklahoma city does not present Christianity because it doesn't say bomb hospitals and kill kids, he was terrorists
Big difference there. Guy in OK didn't should anything about God before or after his bombing. Most Muslims that kill do shout about their God.
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malcolm2142: Since when did this thread became a religious discussion?
"I'm a muslim and..." is in the title.
Pretty sure it was inevitable.
i have read the Quran plenty of times and there is no violent in it
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Oddhermit: I can understand saying that they're parables, made obsolete by other parts of the Quran, or not central to the doctrine, as most modern Christians do, but there's no way you've read the Quran several times and still think there's no violence in it. It certainly advocates killing apostates and disbelievers in a number of passages, as well as killing or harming women under a variety of circumstances.

There's a reason so many people think the book is violent and sexist - it is.
Why I'm not surprised that you said exactly what i mentioned before seriously it's a huge book why no one can bring another verse for 1400 years ? if i said kill that tall white man does it means i wanted all white tall men dead or a certain man dead ? The Quran verses was VERY clear speaking about certain group who were living in mecca (current muslims holy city) who where disbelievers and worship dolls and kicked Muslims out of mecca or killed them) muslims escaped to madina city yet those disbelievers followed them, hunting them for YEARS yet they can't fight back then god gave a verses to the prophet saying those disbelievers have 4 months to stop KILLING muslims or else it's war against them and when 4 months passed muslims went to mecca a war didn't take place and the "disbelievers" where free as a bird and didn't have to become muslims or anything many remained worshiping their stuff)

The Quran have 1 version only since 1400 years ago there are no 2 versions or books, it's just 1 version everywhere worldwide and in the original language exist, read the so called verse you claim then come again and i dare you if it's not exactly as what i said

Hurting women this explain why ton of women convert to islam daily they must enjoy being harmed, we have heard it million times "women are oppressed ! etc yet islam says a wife who are not happy with her husband the man wont even smell the heaven nor see it, the heaven is under the mother feet (aka if you are good to your mom that's best way to get to heaven easily and if you are not you are in trouble)

I think I'm done, topic is going off-topic and i rather stick to main subject if you want to discuss Islam there are plenty of Resources online :)

I created the thread to say simple thanks to CDP but the thread went over the top and totally unexpected turn o.O

Peace
Oh look, another one.

How many of you actually noticed the texture in the game before the patchlog?
I know i didn't and even if i did, it would mean nothing to me since i'm sure it wasn't intentional.

And if your gameplay consisted of staring at that particular texture, than maybe, just maybe, you're playing wrong game.

And again, fyi, it was CDRPs decision to remove it because they decided to, not because someone was offended, otherwise you'd see a lot more "OMG i'm offended" threads on this forum prior the patchlog.

So just relax, playenjoy the damn game, and if you're butthurt because of the texture, there is a SS somewhere, so you can stare at it again.
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Seph22: Why I'm not surprised that you said exactly what i mentioned before seriously it's a huge book why no one can bring another verse for 1400 years ? if i said kill that tall white man does it means i wanted all white tall men dead or a certain man dead ? The Quran verses was VERY clear speaking about certain group who were living in mecca (current muslims holy city) who where disbelievers and worship dolls and kicked Muslims out of mecca or killed them) muslims escaped to madina city yet those disbelievers followed them, hunting them for YEARS yet they can't fight back then god gave a verses to the prophet saying those disbelievers have 4 months to stop KILLING muslims or else it's war against them and when 4 months passed muslims went to mecca a war didn't take place and the "disbelievers" where free as a bird and didn't have to become muslims or anything many remained worshiping their stuff)

The Quran have 1 version only since 1400 years ago there are no 2 versions or books, it's just 1 version everywhere worldwide and in the original language exist, read the so called verse you claim then come again and i dare you if it's not exactly as what i said
You want more verses? How about:
2:191-192, 2:244, 2:216, 3:56, 3:151, 4:74. 4:76, 4:89, 4:95, 4:104, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15, 8:39 and I can name about 30 more just in the Quran.

the Hadith also has many verses advocating violence such as Bukhari 52:177 for example where it is written: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

I can name many of these also.

So you may get away with it for those who haven't studied it but not with me since I have read the Quran and I do know what's in there.


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Seph22: Hurting women this explain why ton of women convert to islam daily they must enjoy being harmed, we have heard it million times "women are oppressed ! etc yet islam says a wife who are not happy with her husband the man wont even smell the heaven nor see it, the heaven is under the mother feet (aka if you are good to your mom that's best way to get to heaven easily and if you are not you are in trouble)
Yes I heard the women in Saudi are estatic that they can't drive. Or the ones under Taliban rule love the Burka.

Not to mention 4:34, 38:44 wherre a man can beat his wife if she disobeys him. And of curse Bukhari 72:715 where Muhammad forced a women to return to her husband even after multiple beatings from him.

Yea I bet women really love it.
I suggest this thread be locked up or something. It's getting kinda out of hand and completely out of topic.
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Seph22: Hurting women this explain why ton of women convert to islam daily they must enjoy being harmed, we have heard it million times "women are oppressed !
Or perhaps they convert because of the consequences of not converting. In the middle east I'm quite sure rejecting Islam, especially as a woman, can be a very dangerous thing to do.

This is a horribly flawed argument.
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malcolm2142: I suggest this thread be locked up or something. It's getting kinda out of hand and completely out of topic.
Agree
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Seph22: Hurting women this explain why ton of women convert to islam daily they must enjoy being harmed, we have heard it million times "women are oppressed !
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Oddhermit: Or perhaps they convert because of the consequences of not converting. In the middle east I'm quite sure rejecting Islam, especially as a woman, can be a very dangerous thing to do.

This is a horribly flawed argument.
Nah, it's the other way around: converting to Islam means you get raped, killed and bombed by Jews and Christians because of what you are
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Seph22: Why I'm not surprised that you said exactly what i mentioned before seriously it's a huge book why no one can bring another verse for 1400 years ? if i said kill that tall white man does it means i wanted all white tall men dead or a certain man dead ? The Quran verses was VERY clear speaking about certain group who were living in mecca (current muslims holy city) who where disbelievers and worship dolls and kicked Muslims out of mecca or killed them) muslims escaped to madina city yet those disbelievers followed them, hunting them for YEARS yet they can't fight back then god gave a verses to the prophet saying those disbelievers have 4 months to stop KILLING muslims or else it's war against them and when 4 months passed muslims went to mecca a war didn't take place and the "disbelievers" where free as a bird and didn't have to become muslims or anything many remained worshiping their stuff)

The Quran have 1 version only since 1400 years ago there are no 2 versions or books, it's just 1 version everywhere worldwide and in the original language exist, read the so called verse you claim then come again and i dare you if it's not exactly as what i said
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Goodmongo: You want more verses? How about:
2:191-192, 2:244, 2:216, 3:56, 3:151, 4:74. 4:76, 4:89, 4:95, 4:104, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15, 8:39 and I can name about 30 more just in the Quran.

the Hadith also has many verses advocating violence such as Bukhari 52:177 for example where it is written: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

I can name many of these also.

So you may get away with it for those who haven't studied it but not with me since I have read the Quran and I do know what's in there.


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Seph22: Hurting women this explain why ton of women convert to islam daily they must enjoy being harmed, we have heard it million times "women are oppressed ! etc yet islam says a wife who are not happy with her husband the man wont even smell the heaven nor see it, the heaven is under the mother feet (aka if you are good to your mom that's best way to get to heaven easily and if you are not you are in trouble)
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Goodmongo: Yes I heard the women in Saudi are estatic that they can't drive. Or the ones under Taliban rule love the Burka.

Not to mention 4:34, 38:44 wherre a man can beat his wife if she disobeys him. And of curse Bukhari 72:715 where Muhammad forced a women to return to her husband even after multiple beatings from him.

Yea I bet women really love it.
Normally, I would go over all those verses and show how ignorant you are of the Quran and Islamic history, but I don't think anyone here is interested in that kind of debate.
Post edited June 03, 2011 by Arsalan