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Macos10: Go for it you know you want to :)
Logically, I should wait for a sale and save my money.

Emotionally, Obsidian did a great job, and they deserve it.

Logically, If I wait for a good sale, I can buy it, and probably a handful of other games for the same amount.

Emotionally, Its very hard to start a game as the class I want to play (a Spiritshift-focused druid), when I feel like I'll have to stop again in a few days, until mods are updated (Timber Wolf skin still not updated last I checked :( . )

Logically, The game probably won't have a large % taken off it for a sale for at least a year, maybe 2.

Emotionally, I dropped $50 on Guild Wars 1, just so I could play it for 2 weeks to get the nostalgia urge out of my system... despite liking the game a lot, I lost interest again soon after.

Additionally, I very well may spend hours each day debating whether or not I should buy it.. Dropping $50 to just be done with it might be worth it..

......dang it, why must choices be so hard...
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Macos10: Go for it you know you want to :)
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LancerChronics: Timber Wolf skin still not updated last I checked :( . )
Did not realise there was a problem with that, what exactly is wrong with it ?
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LancerChronics: Timber Wolf skin still not updated last I checked :( . )
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Macos10: Did not realise there was a problem with that, what exactly is wrong with it ?
Timber Wolf Reskin

(Assuming i know what i am talking about...)

The Mod changes the texture files in a .unity3d file. If you were to convert a Unity3D file to Hex, the texture file would have a position within the code.

For some reason, with every patch, the HEX code entries don't just change, but many of their positions within the code. Thus, when the patched game goes looking for the texture file, it finds some other piece of code (Hence why you need all your mods updated, even for a tiny hotfix. They need to be rebuilt from scratch to set them in the right positions).

Thus, using the mod in a patched game currently, as not being updated to the latest version, leaves you as a giant glowing purple wolf-shaped splotch on the screen, as well as turns purple all of the spiritshifting effects.
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Macos10: Did not realise there was a problem with that, what exactly is wrong with it ?
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LancerChronics: Timber Wolf Reskin

(Assuming i know what i am talking about...)

The Mod changes the texture files in a .unity3d file. If you were to convert a Unity3D file to Hex, the texture file would have a position within the code.

For some reason, with every patch, the HEX code entries don't just change, but many of their positions within the code. Thus, when the patched game goes looking for the texture file, it finds some other piece of code (Hence why you need all your mods updated, even for a tiny hotfix. They need to be rebuilt from scratch to set them in the right positions).

Thus, using the mod in a patched game currently, as not being updated to the latest version, leaves you as a giant glowing purple wolf-shaped splotch on the screen, as well as turns purple all of the spiritshifting effects.
So what you are saying is, every time there is a patch or hotfix I need to trash the game as is, re install it and re patch it, then start a new game ?
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LancerChronics: ......dang it, why must choices be so hard...
You made me laugh. :-)


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ast486: I'd say wait till it goes on sale for 50% off or better, then get it here.
I do that with games I own on steam that are really good.
I'm not supporting steam anymore.
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Macos10: I am doing that, nearly replaced my 30 or so games on steam, I no longer support steam anymore either.

Steams customer relations and business ethics stink.
Agreed.
Post edited April 09, 2015 by ast486
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LancerChronics: Timber Wolf Reskin

(Assuming i know what i am talking about...)

The Mod changes the texture files in a .unity3d file. If you were to convert a Unity3D file to Hex, the texture file would have a position within the code.

For some reason, with every patch, the HEX code entries don't just change, but many of their positions within the code. Thus, when the patched game goes looking for the texture file, it finds some other piece of code (Hence why you need all your mods updated, even for a tiny hotfix. They need to be rebuilt from scratch to set them in the right positions).

Thus, using the mod in a patched game currently, as not being updated to the latest version, leaves you as a giant glowing purple wolf-shaped splotch on the screen, as well as turns purple all of the spiritshifting effects.
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Macos10: So what you are saying is, every time there is a patch or hotfix I need to trash the game as is, re install it and re patch it, then start a new game ?
No,just everytime there is a patch/hotfix, you need to wait for updates to be released on all your mods before you can continue as before. The Steam patch seem to replace all the files, but downloading an unfixed mod and installing will just cause issues.

You could potentially try to continue without mods, but this may have ill effects... like if you built a character around a specific mod, and without that mod the character becomes near useless (the case of people who focused on spirishifter cause it seemed so cool at level 1, and then at level 5-ish it was suddenly junk.)

With GoG, you can abstain from patching, and continue with mods, until the mod updates are released, then get them all in 1 go.
Post edited April 10, 2015 by LancerChronics
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Macos10: So what you are saying is, every time there is a patch or hotfix I need to trash the game as is, re install it and re patch it, then start a new game ?
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LancerChronics: No,just everytime there is a patch/hotfix, you need to wait for updates to be released on all your mods before you can continue as before. The Steam patch seem to replace all the files, but downloading an unfixed mod and installing will just cause issues.

You could potentially try to continue without mods, but this may have ill effects... like if you built a character around a specific mod, and without that mod the character becomes near useless (the case of people who focused on spirishifter cause it seemed so cool at level 1, and then at level 5-ish it was suddenly junk.)

With GoG, you can abstain from patching, and continue with mods, until the mod updates are released, then get them all in 1 go.
Thanks :)
You could move the game folder from the "steamapps" folder into a different directory and play a older version without the updates. For the Linux version you can just run the executable file and according to the terminal the game doesn't even look for the steam api. ( I have no idea if this works for Windows or Mac ) The only difference you get is the game version in the bottom of the screen is "1.x.x - steam" or the "1.x.x"
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coryrj1995: You could move the game folder from the "steamapps" folder into a different directory and play a older version without the updates. For the Linux version you can just run the executable file and according to the terminal the game doesn't even look for the steam api. ( I have no idea if this works for Windows or Mac ) The only difference you get is the game version in the bottom of the screen is "1.x.x - steam" or the "1.x.x"
Sadly won't work in this case, I dragged out the files and copied them to an entirely different harddrive, but any attempt to run the exe directly (not just the shortcut) still points back to the folder on the original drive with all the files. I tested by copying the files over, then tweaking the new directory with one type of mod, and the original directory with a different mod. Ran the new exe, and the mod in the original directory ran, rather that the one in the new directory.

There may be an ini somewhere that would let me point to a different directory, but I have NO clue where that might be.
Post edited April 11, 2015 by LancerChronics
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LancerChronics: Sadly won't work in this case, I dragged out the files and copied them to an entirely different harddrive, but any attempt to run the exe directly (not just the shortcut) still points back to the folder on the original drive with all the files. I tested by copying the files over, then tweaking the new directory with one type of mod, and the original directory with a different mod. Ran the new exe, and the mod in the original directory ran, rather that the one in the new directory.

There may be an ini somewhere that would let me point to a different directory, but I have NO clue where that might be.
It's possibly a registry entry. Easily fixed if needed as well.
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Macos10: Go for it you know you want to :)
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LancerChronics: Logically, I should wait for a sale and save my money.

Emotionally, Obsidian did a great job, and they deserve it.

Logically, If I wait for a good sale, I can buy it, and probably a handful of other games for the same amount.

Emotionally, Its very hard to start a game as the class I want to play (a Spiritshift-focused druid), when I feel like I'll have to stop again in a few days, until mods are updated (Timber Wolf skin still not updated last I checked :( . )

Logically, The game probably won't have a large % taken off it for a sale for at least a year, maybe 2.

Emotionally, I dropped $50 on Guild Wars 1, just so I could play it for 2 weeks to get the nostalgia urge out of my system... despite liking the game a lot, I lost interest again soon after.

Additionally, I very well may spend hours each day debating whether or not I should buy it.. Dropping $50 to just be done with it might be worth it..

......dang it, why must choices be so hard...
Thank you Mr. Jefferson.