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Pillars of Eternity SeriesRequirements hugely increased - can You still run it? :-((51 posts)(51 posts)
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Posted March 25, 2015
I'm surprised how big the requirements are for a top-down game :|. The only recommended requirement i can't match is the GPU. i got a 6600, not a 7700. does anyone know If i pre-order the hero edition, will i be able to buy a royal edition upgrade later?
Post edited March 25, 2015 by Thepickygamer
Posted March 26, 2015
A few relevant posts from Obsidian developers:

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/71700-biz-advice-for-obsidian/#entry1599666 and http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/71586-can-i-run-it/#entry1599622 - they forgot to add an option to disable anti-aliasing, but it should be possible to add one in a future patch.

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/71586-can-i-run-it/#entry1599632 - it should be possible to run it in 3GB RAM.

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/71503-poe-and-windows-xp/page-2#entry1598919 - it should run on WinXP, but hasn't been tested much.
Posted March 26, 2015
OP has a good point.
Changing the specs only a week before release is a shitty thing to do!
Posted March 26, 2015
i dont know whats going on but.. game has been in development for 3years! Devs DO assume gamers got much better pc parts compared to 3 years ago! No big deal! good game can be replayed after more years..
Posted March 26, 2015
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Thepickygamer: I'm surprised how big the requirements are for a top-down game :|. The only recommended requirement i can't match is the GPU. i got a 6600, not a 7700. does anyone know If i pre-order the hero edition, will i be able to buy a royal edition upgrade later?
Yes, that's not problem. If the page doesn't offer it, you can contact GOG support, they will help you with that.
Posted March 26, 2015
@drealmer7

You are thinking inside-the-box, and are totally wrong about laptops. The fact that I have the same laptop for 7 years is because it actually works for me. I am able to play all the games that I want to, including graphic-heavy action games. Since my laptop has been designed for gamers, it is large enough (16" screen), has EAX 4.0 surround sound (left+right+subwoofer), and has absolutely fantastic keyboard (MUCH better than the remote one that I have been issued by my employer for my office cubicle). At the same time, I can take my laptop everywhere (and I am travelling a lot due to my job), I do play all my favorite games in my bed, and I do pay much less for electricity than I had been paying when I had a desktop.

Also, I think You are missing my point: it is not a problem with my computers, and I find no fault in them; it is a problem with poor design and optimization on side of the PoE Devs. Do You really believe that old-school isometric-view cRPG (that has been promised to be produced for old machines) warrants more power requirements than X-COM, heavily modded Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, and Watch Dogs?

I really do not see why it should.

If I can play action games on medium-to-high settings, yet barely meet minimum requirements for old-school cRPG then something is seriously wrong with the the cRPG.

Heck, Satellite Reign has somehow lower requirements than PoE!

Also, I am not a backer - I have simply pre-ordered PoE via GOG.
Post edited March 26, 2015 by Kondaru
Posted March 26, 2015
Dude, buy the game or don't. Cancel your purchase or don't. Wait and see if others with your rig have trouble playing or not, or don't.

If by any combination of events, you should have the game on your rig and it either works or does not, then please come back and tell us.

Don't worry be happy.
Posted March 26, 2015
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Kondaru: @drealmer7

You are thinking inside-the-box, and are totally wrong about laptops. The fact that I have the same laptop for 7 years is because it actually works for me. I am able to play all the games that I want to, including graphic-heavy action games. Since my laptop has been designed for gamers, it is large enough (16" screen), has EAX 4.0 surround sound (left+right+subwoofer), and has absolutely fantastic keyboard (MUCH better than the remote one that I have been issued by my employer for my office cubicle). At the same time, I can take my laptop everywhere (and I am travelling a lot due to my job), I do play all my favorite games in my bed, and I do pay much less for electricity than I had been paying when I had a desktop.

Also, I think You are missing my point: it is not a problem with my computers, and I find no fault in them; it is a problem with poor design and optimization on side of the PoE Devs. Do You really believe that old-school isometric-view cRPG (that has been promised to be produced for old machines) warrants more power requirements than X-COM, heavily modded Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, and Watch Dogs?

I really do not see why it should.

If I can play action games on medium-to-high settings, yet barely meet minimum requirements for old-school cRPG then something is seriously wrong with the the cRPG.

Heck, Satellite Reign has somehow lower requirements than PoE!

Also, I am not a backer - I have simply pre-ordered PoE via GOG.
Fair enough, especially since I don't really know that much about optimization and will certainly grant that sometimes things are not as optimized as they could be and I'm simply not sure if that applies to PoE or not.

I think the reason the requirements are as high as they are for PoE (and I still don't consider them unreasonable for what it is/has, regardless of whatever comparisons or expectations you might have, like I said, I have what was considered a medium-performance computer 5 years ago and more than meet the recommended reqs.) is because of the amount of on-screen animations happening with particle-effects from spells combined with whatever other graphics are presented on-screen at the time, which are quite detailed and all have their own "life" that adds to the draw on power. I don't know how many companions you can have at once but I do know that there will likely be a lot of battles with at least 5-10-15 different people/monsters/things are animating and creating draw on the power more-so than you might think. "Top-down/isometric/not fully 3D world" does not mean not intense graphic+resource drain necessities.
Post edited March 26, 2015 by drealmer7
Posted March 27, 2015
Laptops for gaming (and for everything else ) is the preferred choice nowadays. Once a gamer obtains their first laptop for gaming, it's really hard to go back to stationery desktops.

I've been utilizing tasks on mine for 4 years and every time I may need to do something on my desktop for something my laptop cannot, it feels very limiting from a mobility poit-of-view. In 5-10 years or so, this desire for mobility will eventually transition to some sort of hand-held device permanently, phasing out the desktop altogether.
Post edited March 27, 2015 by HEF2011
Posted March 27, 2015
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HEF2011: Laptops for gaming (and for everything else ) is the preferred choice nowadays. Once a gamer obtains their first laptop for gaming, it's really hard to go back to stationery desktops.

I've been utilizing tasks on mine for 4 years and every time I may need to do something on my desktop for something my laptop cannot, it feels very limiting from a mobility poit-of-view. In 5-10 years or so, this desire for mobility will eventually transition to some sort of hand-held device permanently, phasing out the desktop altogether.
Speak for yourself. Laptops are not the preferred choice for anything at all for me. To me, nothing compares to being able to game on my desktop, and I have no need for the mobility of a laptop and prefer the desktop for many other reasons/uses (one of the biggest being better performance for cheaper prices.) I don't like laptops for any use, really. Maybe one would be good for me for a quick recipe in the kitchen, but otherwise, there's no need for it, for me, and certainly no preference for it. If I'm going to do something at the computer I'm going to be at it to do something and have zero need for the mobility of a laptop ever.

My "desktop" is versatile as far as positioning too. I have my monitor relatively high with the possibility of going 8 feet away to sit on the couch and see it (I use the same monitor for computering as I do for watching movies/TV.) If I want I can sit in a seat a little closer, sit on the floor/on a cushion on the floor and lean against the couch, or stand at a standup desk with the keyboard/mouse on it. The keyboard and mouse are all that need to be "mobile." They are both hooked to USB extensions (6ft.) that make them able to move around quite easily. I don't like wireless, if I went wireless it'd be even more mobile/versatile.
Posted March 27, 2015
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HEF2011: Laptops for gaming (and for everything else ) is the preferred choice nowadays. Once a gamer obtains their first laptop for gaming, it's really hard to go back to stationery desktops
Unless they are some kind of globetrotters, I hardly think so... For gaming entustiasts, desktop is still the n.1 choice, by far :

- Way better performance:price ratio
- Way better access to hardware upgrades
- Way better monitor quality, unless you rely on a separated one (albeit having a second screen "for free", so to speak, is nice)
- (more personal pref.) Way better keyboard feeling; even when you consider the quality of the higher end laptops, they still can't reach the best standalone keyboards

... and so on.

At the end of the day, to have an optimal experience with a laptop I would still have to plug in all the external peripherals m+k/display/pad/stick and still left with a "locked" machine I overpaid and I can't keep up-to-date.

No thanks.... for the same price i get a desktop PC+a mid-range laptop for all my mobile needs.
Post edited March 27, 2015 by Antaniserse
Posted March 27, 2015
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harbdog: I'm sure you will be able to, but if not it's not their fault.
Whos fault it is than?Please enlighten us.Are they not the developers?
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Kondaru: And once more: highly disappointed with the Devs. :-(
Just go and get all Avernum games instead.That's what i did.
Post edited March 27, 2015 by Screamshield
Posted March 27, 2015
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drealmer7: Speak for yourself. Laptops are not the preferred choice for anything at all for me. To me, nothing compares to being able to game on my desktop, and I have no need for the mobility of a laptop and prefer the desktop for many other reasons/uses (one of the biggest being better performance for cheaper prices.) I don't like laptops for any use, really. .
I used to share this same opinion about laptops, too when those devices first hit the market.

Not anymore. Remember, keyword: 'gaming' laptop.

I still appreciate the ability and freedom to setup a gaming desktop with high-end aftermarket hardware, however, today's gaming laptops just blows those stationary towers away with convenience and mobility.
Post edited March 27, 2015 by HEF2011
Posted March 27, 2015
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HEF2011: I used to share this same opinion about laptops, too when those devices first hit the market.

Not anymore. Remember, keyword: 'gaming' laptop.

I still appreciate the ability and freedom to setup a gaming desktop with high-end aftermarket hardware, however, today's gaming laptops just blows those stationary towers away with convenience and mobility.
Just because it is a gaming laptop doesn't mean it is equal to and certainly not better than a desktop, IMO. Please tell me, what conveniences? And what is your need for being able to be "mobile" and play a game and how is that better than being at a desktop?
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HEF2011: Laptops for gaming (and for everything else ) is the preferred choice nowadays. Once a gamer obtains their first laptop for gaming, it's really hard to go back to stationery desktops
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Antaniserse: Unless they are some kind of globetrotters, I hardly think so... For gaming entustiasts, desktop is still the n.1 choice, by far :

- Way better performance:price ratio
- Way better access to hardware upgrades
- Way better monitor quality, unless you rely on a separated one (albeit having a second screen "for free", so to speak, is nice)
- (more personal pref.) Way better keyboard feeling; even when you consider the quality of the higher end laptops, they still can't reach the best standalone keyboards

... and so on.

At the end of the day, to have an optimal experience with a laptop I would still have to plug in all the external peripherals m+k/display/pad/stick and still left with a "locked" machine I overpaid and I can't keep up-to-date.

No thanks.... for the same price i get a desktop PC+a mid-range laptop for all my mobile needs.
Exactly, all of that. I really don't get how a laptop can compare, at all.
Post edited March 27, 2015 by drealmer7
Posted March 27, 2015
>>>drealmer7

All I have to reply with is this:

When I finally get a chance to pick up 'Pillars of Eternity', I intend to (someday) run it on a Dell Alienware 17 or greater laptop!

EDIT:

Forgot my patented signature smiley!

:)
Post edited March 27, 2015 by HEF2011
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